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To be clear: it is generally agreed by feminist persons that the Lingerie Football League is sexist. The league is not only proof of sexism but a source of sexism. Further, if one elects to think of the league as less than sexist, one is sexist.
I was surprised by this reasoning, and not just because it was so dizzyingly syllogistic. In my view, the Lingerie Football League is less ''sexist'' than it is just a little distasteful. (Please note: This is possibly because I am a sexist.)
If you have not previously heard of the Lingerie Football League, be assured, it is every bit as gaudy as it sounds. Young women play a laudably brutal version of American gridiron football in their underthings. These women, who are reportedly paid for their participation, sign an ''accidental nudity'' clause in the case of, oops, temporary uniform loss.
We could probably place the Lingerie Football League in aesthetic proximity to pole dancing and athletic proximity to a bar fight. It is not very nice and it is probably not terribly hygienic. But, particularly when compared with something like wage disparity or Neighbours, it is not especially sexist.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/feminist-critics-of-this-new-sport-sound-like-snobs-on-a-soapbox-20120608-201nt.html#ixzz1xG3heLB8
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longship
(40,416 posts)nt
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)Arctic Jodie and I went to roller derby camp for our 18th anniversary.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)I originally voted "other" because I think it's both.
But ultimately, I find it distasteful *because* it's sexist, so I changed my vote.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)sexist?...
sheeeit.
pretty damn sexist.
redqueen
(115,108 posts)Womens Professional Soccer Folds while the Lingerie Football League Thrives
by Camille Hankins, Class of 2013
On Monday, the Womens Professional Soccer (WPS) league announced the suspension of its 2012 season. According to WPS, a legal battle with former team owner Dan Borislow has forced the league to implement this hiatus. However, former national team star Julie Foudy says that the lawsuit is not the sole obstacle the organization faces. Four teams in the league have folded since 2009, and the remaining five teams are all on the East coast. The failure of a professional soccer league for women to thrive is especially disappointing following the US teams strong showing in the 2011 Womens World Cup.
With this story in mind, I turn to the Lingerie Football League (LFL). Few would argue that the women who compete in the LFL are athletes on par with the women who play professional soccer, but their website quotes NBC sports asserting that the LFL is the fastest-growing pro sports league in the nation. If you arent familiar with this sport, its exactly what it sounds likewomen playing football while wearing lacey underwear.
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In the words of bell hooks, Being oppressed means the absence of choices. Even in a time and place where women athletes had the same celebrity status as male athletes, Lingerie Football would be potentially problematic. In our current culture, I believe the LFL is intensely damaging for the prospects of all women who aspire to play sports professionally. I empathize with the players of the WPSare they wondering if their league would have a season this year if they wore their underwear to play? What if they each focused more on their physical appearance than their fitness? These ideas are not far fetchedwhen asked how to make the sport more popular, FIFA president Sepp Blatter recommended Let the women play in more feminine clothes like they do in volleyball. Female players are pretty
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hlthe2b
(102,506 posts)Thanks for posting this, though it is quite depressing....
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)In order to respect and accommodate the cultural beliefs of various countries, women volleyball players will be given more of a choice in clothing at the London Olympics this summer. Instead of having to wear bikinis, the International Volleyball Federation has announced that women will be allowed to wear shorts and tops with sleeves. The new rule permits shorts of a maximum length of (1.18 inches) above the knee, so I doubt well be seeing any board shorts on the beach.
Many of these countries have religious and cultural requirements, so the uniform needed to be more flexible. FIVB spokesman Richard Baker told The Associated Press Tuesday. Winners of the Continental Cups will qualify for the Olympics, so it has to be applied.
Five Continental Cup Olympic qualifiers already had the rule in place, so it made sense to extend it to all athletes and countries. Plenty of athletes will stick to the bikini uniforms that they have become accustomed to, but the option is available.
As expected, there have already been rumblings about the change in uniform policy affecting ratings for volleyball. The reality is whether right or wrong there are plenty of people who tune into womens Olympic beach volleyball to watch women in bikinis. More clothing will also mean less space for those tattoo advertisements some players have featured.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)so most opted for bikini.
ya
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fuck ability
ha ha. fuck ability. fuckability. i mean, fuck the ability of the athlete. but, that works, too.
being the man haters we are. thank you for that.
hlthe2b
(102,506 posts)Football is a contact sport. Men wear PROTECTIVE clothing for "gawd's" sakes. Yet women playing just as hard are expected to do so in lingerie? And, how is that NOT sexist?
intheflow
(28,519 posts)This isn't an "either/or" proposition, it's "both/and."
Exactly what I thought.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)laconicsax
(14,860 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)MH1
(17,631 posts)Suggesting that a significant part of the buying market really are sexist pigs. (Yeah, I know, and the sky is blue. Sigh.)
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)Not only does she oppose the "body image hysteria" about dangerously thin models and Photoshop preventing girls and women from having a healthy body image, but she also thinks that marriage equality is stupid and anti-progressive, that the shift from plastic to reusable bags is ridiculous, and that women who are forced to wear the burqa enjoy liberation not found in the west.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)sure she'll get a pat on the head from Rush and his dittoheads.
redqueen
(115,108 posts)Violet_Crumble
(35,984 posts)It's kind of like Hooters on a football field.
So, when will we be seeing the men playing football in their undies?
And, yes. Being familiar with Helen Razer (her mum used to own the Calwell Garden Connection and sold me half the plants in my garden), I'd agree with her that it's possible she's sexist. Unlike others I've seen, at least she's got the honesty and guts to entertain the possibility...
eridani
(51,907 posts)No protective gear? WTF?
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)likely that many will be injured.
MH1
(17,631 posts)In 'all of the above' I'm including "invitation to serious injury" as another poster contributed.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)agree with your post.
"invitation to serious injury"
this is the one center in my mind.