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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
1. This is wonderful! Especially that "little girls" pose, feet with the toes turned inward...
Sat May 31, 2014, 07:37 PM
May 2014

instead of a strong stance of power...I hate that pose...the fashion industry needs to stop it now...it's i destructive of women's image in fashion and in the world. We don't have to stand with our feet turned inward...it's unnatural, for one thing and it is also stupid. Nobody stands that way.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
2. Pigeon-toed people do, but they don't do the bent knee shit.
Sat May 31, 2014, 07:52 PM
May 2014

Posing adult women like children is sick, full stop.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. I'm really talking about fashion shoots where models deliberately turn their toes inward to imitate
Sat May 31, 2014, 08:21 PM
May 2014

a children's pose. It is stupid and I don't understand why they still do it. Nobody looks like that in clothes.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
7. Same is true for store mannequins...
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 10:29 AM
Jun 2014

years ago, I used to "collect" mannequin store poses. Meaning, I would memorize the pose and then re-create it somewhere when I was getting a picture made. For example, I'd hold one arm up pointing straight to the sky and then cross my other arm in front of me pointing to the left. The poses were always so bizarre but I assumed it was to attract attention. I made fun of them.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
8. This is just my personal opinion....
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 02:54 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Mon Jun 2, 2014, 06:07 PM - Edit history (1)

(Thought I should just preface that disclaimer in the subject line, lacking little red flag emoticons. )

But I believe the reason models in the fashion industry are starved into stripping away any sign of womanhood (i.e., boobs, thighs, a butt) is because the adult woman to some of these creeps is both undesirable and frightening. A WOMAN's body represents female power and sexuality. If a woman's body is but a hangar upon which to display clothes, she must be as small as possible -- that's what I heard at least one designer say. Better yet, pose those cadaverous bodies as if they are little girls, which adds another element of vulnerability. So whether women are placed in poses as if they are little girls or are wasting away from consumption, it's about making women appear vulnerable, helpless.

Now what I'm going to say next is not going to go over well with some and I've tried to have the discussion in the past in the LGBT community. (I am myself a lesbian, btw.) I realize this is a very touchy issue. A lot of the top designers, fashion critics et al are gay men. And I truly think there is an element of androgyny that comes into play when favoring models who lack the outward signs of being female. It's like role play when you design clothes for bodies that resemble those of adolescent males more than they do actual women. It's a "Mary Sue" story played out with clothes. And I really, really resent the damage those kind of fantasies, whether deliberate or subconscious, do to the self-esteem of women. Even as a woman who wouldn't be caught dead in designer fashions, it really pisses me off to see my sisters degraded in this way by the fashion industry.

I could go on and on about this subject (and have) but for now I'll just leave it at that.

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