using sexism as a tool. still makes you sexist.

[seabeyond]

i am seeing people chuckle at the accusation that they are being sexist, when it comes to hillary, cause they support warren after all. so really, how sexist are they?

well, what is being done, is sexism is merely being used as a tool. people that do not like clinton resort to sexism. they easily recognize what sexism is, and they use it on some women, not on others. not on those they support. just like the rw sexist. still a sexist, except with his daughter, wife, mother. but, he uses sexism as a tool to dismiss, degrade, humiliate, discount a woman.

one cannot argue that because they support warren, that proves they are not sexist. if they are using sexism as a tool against clinton, they will then call it out when it is used on warren. they are still sexist.

[ismnotwasm]

1. I saw that

Fucking pure dumbass

[seabeyond]

2. i am thinkin'..... ;) . nt

[freshwest]

16. That's when you are most dangerous, my friend. Keep on thinkin' n/t

[seabeyond]

17. funny funny

that is the story, in my real life, lol.

my son and i giggle....

as i am allowing him to cut school again, a supposed pink eye, and we discuss this election and what is happening. and he is spot on with history and development today. an outstanding discussion.

ya.

that thinking.

i ^L^O^V^E

[freshwest]

21. My real life, too. Guys I was working with would say, "Oh, no, she's thinking again!" Some of us

^J^U^S^T ^C^A^N^T ^S^T^O^P

[seabeyond]

22. +1. nt

[NYC_SKP]

3. That is correct and the same goes for ageism, regionalism, bias against light skin, religion...

...body size, and levels of education.

There was some OP about Tweets yesterday mocking imaginary twitter users.

One even used a "cute" form of the work that we've rejected for any purpose, they wrote "Republit*rd".

It's never OK, none of it, and it stings when I see it from our side.

[seabeyond]

4. agreed. further, i speak out when we do it to republican women, gonna certainly speak out

when done to democratic women.

[sufrommich]

5. I've seen very blatant sexism here used against

both Palin and Condoleezza Rice with the excuse being that it was OK because they were right wingers.I remember being accused of sympathizing with their politics when I pointed out the sexism.

Thanks for the welcome back,Sea.

[F4lconF16]

7. It is very blatant.

See also hate-filled remarks about Chris Christie's weight, anti-trans remarks when referring to Ann Coulter, anti-gay remarks referring to various legislators, etc.

This is not nearly as progressive of a board as many would like to believe it is, and I think that is particularly clear when it comes to gender and sexuality issues.

[F4lconF16]

6. Yes, it does.

There is a lot of sexism flying around at the moment, and even some blatantly right-wing attacks on women that are found here. There was one earlier that was thankfully hidden, but too often they are not. Sexism is a tool, like you say. It is often a genuine feeling, but first and foremost, it is a tool to subjugate women, to remind them of their place, and their status in a man's world. Unfortunately, I think many legitimate criticisms are going to be (justifiably) ignored because of the sexism contained in their arguments. And yes, supporting Warren does not make you not sexist. I can think of at least a few choice examples.

I am not in much of a mood to read the crap that is going to be posted in the next year. I think I will be withdrawing from GD for the most part. I can't stand sexism, I can't stand right-wingery, and I can't stand Clinton, so I don't think I will be interested in much. Sadly the PRG appears to be turning more and more into less of a place for legitimate uninterrupted discussion, and more of a complaint station. Ah well, thank goodness for the new Cannabis Group, eh?

[seabeyond]

8. ya. congrats on that. i will check you out over there. i thought that interesting. nt

[seabeyond]

13. hey. a day or two later. and yet, you cannot stay away. lol

i think, we as a whole, has a much better handle on this than we did when she ran in 2008. i think i am going to look at this as a learning experience. for all women, and hte men that support women, walking into these elections. that extends elsewhere, so this is a good start. it extends to the ceo, classrooms, all over....

so. if hillary makes it thru the primary, i will probably spending my time, learning, watching, voicing, defining the message.

i am not gonna let this discourage me. let me work on a successful womans voice and not the silenced, quieted, victims, for a while.....

this is a very positive good thing. and it is not one i will allow the misogynists to spoil for me. as a matter of fact, every time i hear that whine, it will empower me with the right of what is being accomplished. this is
^T^O^O ^C^O^O^L

i am going ot enjoy it. not be tired, resigned, or ^H^O^P^Eless

[seabeyond]

14. i am even learning how i want to use this toy, the administration gave us. wink....

^L^I^F^E is ^F^U^N

[F4lconF16]

19. I think that's a good way to look at it.

And yeah, you're right--much as it drives me nuts at times, this place has too many good people not to stick around.

As far as Clinton, I cannot support her, but I think you make a good point. She is the first woman with a very strong chance of becoming president, and it will be a learning experience as you say. Watching the right will not be surprising, I think, but watching the left will be more so. I wonder how much the mask of equality will slip.

And damn straight, Seabeyond. Don't let them get you down--agree with Clinton or not, it is a very cool thing to have a woman not just out there, but leading the pack. I can't say I hope she makes it, but I hope she gives the sexists in our party and others the middle finger the whole time.

^F^I^R^S^T ^T^I^M^E using this...it is very cool

[freshwest]

9. Reminds me of *some of my best friends are black* disclaimer. And deserves equal scorn.

CDS is closely related to ODS.

The biggest failure BHO made to some was that he didn't live up to their stereotype of what a black POTUS would do or say or be.

How dare he not do what they demanded, he got out of the cage they had for him!

The same will go for HRC, heck, it already is. With a vociferous chorus of the same voices, too. Yeah, I noticed that.

[seabeyond]

11. vociferous chorus of the same voices, too. Yeah, I noticed that.

me, too. and yesterday i was directed to what i assume a new group. where i am hearing a handful say they were banned. i checked it out. you know those names you recognize? my gosh... everything fell into place.

[freshwest]

15. Kinda sad, uh, sea. Thanks for the reply. See you later. n/t

[seabeyond]

18. knowledge is never sad. being aware is empowering. and right, always wins... lol

i see so much more clearly, now that i am understanding the dynamics. i think we learned a lot over the years.

[freshwest]

20. Ah no, but yes to what you said. It's sad when you see that they refuse the mirror, is all. n/t

[geek tragedy]

10. "I'm not racist for calling Obama an alien Kenyan usurper--I like Ben Carson."

Yup.

If a person opposes sexist, racist, and homophobic attacks on only those people they already like, then that person does not really oppose sexism, racism, or homophobia.

[seabeyond]

12. the people that really know this are those that call out the racism/sexism toward people they do NOT

like

it really pisses me off, .... really. pisses me off, when i have to defend the palins and se cupps.

[AuntPatsy]

23. So true