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Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:41 PM

8 men tell the NYT about their Sexually assualting Girls & Women

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Source::https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/18/opinion/men-metoo-high-school.html

Ariana Tobin (@Ariana_Tobin) Tweeted:
Striking in this regret callout:

- how many men mention the women's reputation as "easy" or "down"
- how many men regret something that happened in front of other people
- how many have wondered what would happen if they saw the women again https://t.co/tcVvLcxVw8



Article is too long to include all of it here.
First 4 paragraphs

Late on the Friday afteon of Sept. 21, the same week that Christine Blasey Ford went public with accusations of sexual assault against Brett Kavanaugh, The New York Times invited male readers to tell us about their high school experiences. Had you, we asked, ever behaved toward girls or women in ways you now regret?

By Monday morning, we had more than 750 responses.one wrote. “Forcing women to do anything was not only illegal, it was grotesque.” A number of men told of being too terrified of girls to have done anything of the sort. A number of women said they were frustrated to see that we were once again seeking to view the world from a male perspective."

But a remarkable number of stories poured in from men about past misbehavior. The stories covered a wide spectrum of sexual misconduct, some of it deeply disturbing: There were multiple submissions that discussed participating in gang rapes. In others, men looked back and thought differently on activities that might be considered the everyday realm of high school boys: “I would walk up to girls in my school and undo their bras. I thought it was funny but they thought it was horrible,” one wrote. “I felt like I had a right to touch them or undo their bras as a joke and honestly thought it was O.K.” Above all, the submissions were striking for their candor: They were, or at least seemed to be, submitted by men genuinely questioning why they had once conducted themselves in ways of which they now felt ashamed.

We had to leave out many compelling submissions, because The Times decided we would not publish these stories anonymously. And so, many of the same men who submitted searching accounts of who they once were declined to attach their names. “As much as I want to see this conversation move our country forward, I cannot lose my employment. I cannot lose my reputation,” one said. Most of the people willing to be on the record were either of retirement age or close to it."



These men were willing to tell.

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Reply 8 men tell the NYT about their Sexually assualting Girls & Women (Original post)
irisblue Oct 2018 OP
cyclonefence Oct 2018 #1
irisblue Oct 2018 #2
onecaliberal Oct 2018 #3
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gay texan Oct 2018 #5

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Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:47 PM

1. I had completely forgotten about bra unfastening

which at my school happened while you were busy at your locker between classes, back turned toward the hall, hands busy in front of you, not watching who was approaching. And the boys found this hilarious.

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Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:51 PM

2. And it's dropping like a rock in GD :: sigh::

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Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:54 PM

3. Long but very worth the read.

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Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:59 PM

4. Fascinating and I wish they had published the anonymous ones too

A public conversation needs to bring in a variety of voices.
Otherwise what gets repressed in society creates its own backlash.

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Thu Oct 18, 2018, 06:49 PM

5. In the hell hole of a town where I grew up

This was completely permissible and in some cases encouraged.

"Get 'em drunk and screw 'em" they would say. If they were a member of the football team, they were untouchable to law enforcement.

The shit still happens there. It's no surprise they voted for Trump in overwhelming numbers.

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