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Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:19 AM

Don't doubt what you saw with your own eyes

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Two days ago, video was posted online that pretty much everyone who saw immediately recognized for what it was—footage of white teens taunting and harassing a Native American elder named Nathan Phillips on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. What was happening was clear and unmistakable, not just resonant but immediately recognizable as iconic. If you wanted to compress the history of relations between the powerful and the powerless in America, or the dynamics of the current moment, into a single image, you couldn’t do much better than to present a white teen in a MAGA hat, surrounded by a screaming horde of his peers, smirking into the face of an old Native American man.

Perhaps—probably—because what had happened was so undeniable, it was immediately denied. Right-wing trolls not only immediately proposed that the visibly aggressive teens, who were draped in the symbols of white nationalism and misogyny, were in fact the aggressed upon, but began a campaign of brutal online harassment against anyone—especially journalists and especially female journalists—who accurately described what they had seen, or reacted to it on the terms it deserved. In all it was an enactment of the culture-war tactics pioneered by Gamergate and used by Donald Trump to ascend to the pinnacle of global power: While random MAGA chuds and Pepes doxxed and threatened people online in an attempt to silence them and intimidate others, respectable types urged caution, proposing that if you were thoughtful enough you would perhaps realize that you hadn’t in fact seen what you had just seen, or that if you had, maybe it wasn’t that bad at all. Straight news reporters like the Wall Street Journal’s Byron Tau turned the subtext into text, asking whomst among us hasn’t participated in a racially-charged frenzy of barely-restrained violence that they wish hadn’t been become an instantly iconic representation of what America has been historically and what it is now:



The reaction to Soave’s story and to the public-relations firm’s statement was as depressing at it was predictable: Respectable news organizations and journalists, to whom being seen as balanced, level-headed, and more attuned to context and contingency than the reactive social-media mob is more important than reporting the most accurate version of the truth as best they can tell it, backed off, following Reason’s lead and doing the work of the gibbering masturbators who had risen up in defense of the MAGA teens. They were all too happy to say that the sky was not blue if it meant burnishing their credentials as serious and objective, and fell over each other to back away from what was right in front of their eyes.


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Reply Don't doubt what you saw with your own eyes (Original post)
tulipsandroses Jan 22 OP
grumpyduck Jan 22 #1
tulipsandroses Jan 22 #2
grumpyduck Jan 22 #3
tulipsandroses Jan 22 #5
GemDigger Jan 22 #4
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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:21 AM

1. Time to let this go already. Focus on what'really important right now. nt

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Response to grumpyduck (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:28 AM

2. I am quite capable walking and chewing gum at the same time

As woman of color, mother, nurse that practiced that at the bedside now about to take boards to be nurse practitioner, I have many things that are important. that I am constantly juggling. I don't get this notion of focusing on " what is. important" as being a singular thing. Including white supremacy and racism. All on display here. I don't get to let go of racism in my every day life.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:32 AM

3. More power to you if you are,

but I wasn't writing about you specifically. Way too many OPs here seem to just focus on last week's news.

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Response to grumpyduck (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:53 AM

5. If you read the article

I think you might see that it is relevant. Its a natural progression of what has happened over the last few days and now the media is back pedaling and buying the rightwing spin- We are now being gas lighted to say don't believe what you saw. They have hired Republican PR firms. Teenage boys with Powerful Republican PR Firms? And now the media is back pedaling.

In any event, there tons of threads on other matters. When I log on to DU, I read the threads I'm interested in. Ignore the ones I have no desire to read. This thread may not garner your interest. It may garner someone else's interest.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:35 AM

4. Did you see the new one out today. "It's not rape if you enjoy it"

From last weeks outing. I think I have plenty of time to pay attention to multiple things.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2019, 12:38 PM

6. Locking...

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