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Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:07 PM

 

Another good guy with a gun foils a home invasion!

CINCINNATI (AP) ó Police in Cincinnati say a man has fatally shot his 14-year-old son in their home, thinking he was an intruder.

Police say the man thought his son had caught the bus for school Tuesday morning, but the teen returned home soon afterward. Police say the man heard a noise in the basement and checked on it with a gun in his hand. Police say the father fired after apparently being startled, hitting the boy in the neck.

Authorities say the father called 911 and the boy was taken to Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center, where he died Tuesday morning.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/cincinnati-man-kills-son-intruder

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Reply Another good guy with a gun foils a home invasion! (Original post)
Human101948 Jan 2016 OP
randys1 Jan 2016 #1
jonno99 Jan 2016 #2
flamin lib Jan 2016 #3
Aristus Jan 2016 #4
Jerry442 Jan 2016 #6
-none Jan 2016 #8
Aristus Jan 2016 #9
hlthe2b Jan 2016 #5
SoCalMusicLover Jan 2016 #7
Sancho Jan 2016 #10

Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:10 PM

1. Fuck

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:10 PM

2. Sheesh - very sad...

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:12 PM

3. Another good guy with a gun. If only the teen had a gun he'd be alive and the father would be dead.

That is such a better outcome, right? Uh, no. How about if the father didn't have a gun and didn't carry the thoughts of life saving self grandeur that lurk in minds of people in the gun culture? Would that be a better outcome?

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:13 PM

4. If you ask me, guns should come with some sort of safety feature.

A switch or a catch the user can flip on or off as needed to ensure that the gun does not fire unless absolutely needed, and does not harm someone unintentionally. I think that would change the nature of gun culture as we know it...

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Response to Aristus (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:25 PM

6. Or maybe a gun that will fire only at paper targets.

Unbeknown to the owner, of course.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:56 AM

8. Some guns come with that switch.

The problem is it seldom used because of their constant need to to be able to defend themselves at a moments notice.
Moving that lever with their thumb before firing might take too long.

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Response to -none (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:04 AM

9. Yeah, we wouldn't want inconvenience to come between us

and murdering our son...

Gunfucks are such idiots...

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:13 PM

5. I have always wondered if the "loudest" gun proponents/defenders EVER think this could happen to

them... The thought I could kill/injure a loved one--or for me, even the thought of killing a complete stranger sends a sense of dread throughout. Is the sense of denial so fine honed in gun advocates that they can't even imagine feeling badly about shooting/injuriing/killing someone?

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:30 PM

7. The Force Is Strong

 

The attachment to the guns is much stronger than any individual life.

Heck, even the American Sniper widow would NEVER EVER consider that a gun caused her hubby's death. His death was tragic to her, no doubt, but she and he would die 1,000 times if it meant defending their right and the right of others to own guns.

No guns were harmed during this story.

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Response to Human101948 (Original post)

Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:09 AM

10. Lots of opportunity to repost this (unfortunately)...

People Control, Not Gun Control

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70ís, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that werenít secured are out of control in our society. As such, hereís what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. Iím not debating the legal language, I just think itís the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because itís clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learnerís license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driverís license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

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