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billh58

(6,635 posts)
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:09 PM May 2014

Big Second Amendment Victory: District Court Upholds D.C. Firearms Registration Law

http://smartgunlaws.org/category/gun-studies-statistics/gun-violence-success-stories/

May 15, 2014 - In a lengthy and well-reasoned decision released earlier today, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia upheld every aspect of D.C.’s comprehensive firearms registration program. The court found that the challenged laws, which require residents to register all firearms with local authorities, were sufficiently related to the District’s goals of ensuring public safety and protecting District police. The court noted that the testimony of four expert witnesses for the District provided enough evidence showing the registration system to be an important law enforcement tool that would save lives by preventing criminals from obtaining firearms.

The court brushed aside the gun lobby’s argument that the registration system was invalid because it would be circumvented by criminals. Stating that the argument made “little sense” and would “invalidate any and all gun laws,” the court emphasized that “although the various registration requirements at issue will not prevent all criminals from obtaining firearms, it surely will prevent some from doing so. That is enough.”

The case, known as Heller II, was brought in the aftermath of the landmark Heller decision in which the Supreme Court struck down D.C.’s handgun ban. After Heller, the D.C. Council enacted the Firearms Registration Amendment Act (FRA), which amended what remained of the District’s gun laws in order to create a new and constitutionally compliant scheme for regulating firearms. The plaintiffs, funded and represented by the gun lobby, immediately challenged this new system as violating the Second Amendment. After extensive and costly litigation, the D.C. Circuit Court upheld most aspects of the FRA in 2011, including the District’s ban on assault weapons, large capacity ammunition magazines, and the registration requirement as it applied specifically to handguns. The rest of the case was brought back to the District Court in order to gather more facts.

Today’s decision broadly upholds D.C.’s common sense registration provisions, including mandatory firearms safety training for registered gun owners, a limit of one pistol registration per month, and the various administrative aspects of the system, including in-person registration. The court’s decision reaffirms the notion that, after the Heller decision, legislatures still have great leeway in enacting thoughtful, rational gun laws in order to protect the public and law enforcement officers. This adds to the gun lobby’s ever-growing losing streak of expensive and wasteful Second Amendment challenges to common sense gun laws. Second Amendment challenges have been rejected in 96% of the more than 900 civil and criminal cases tracked by the Law Center across the country since the Heller decision in 2008.


While Second Amendment absolutists and NRA extremists cloak themselves in denial, the slow but steady progress and growth of the sensible gun control movement speaks for itself. The right-wing gun lobby's war against our citizens, and especially our children, is being exposed for what it really is: profits at any cost, including the highest gun death and injury rate in the industrialized world.

Support a gun control organization of your choice today, and do your part to keep winning the war against the obscene right-wing gun lobby and its followers and apologists.
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Big Second Amendment Victory: District Court Upholds D.C. Firearms Registration Law (Original Post) billh58 May 2014 OP
Very good news. The "gun lobby" is becoming recognized for what it really is. Hoyt May 2014 #1
Indeed it is, and billh58 May 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Schema Thing May 2014 #3
K&R - Great news! tosh May 2014 #4
Most excellent post BrotherIvan May 2014 #5
The argument goes something like: billh58 May 2014 #6
Or the first two words that crosses any gunners mind BrotherIvan May 2014 #7
this should be cross posted in the RKBA group... CTyankee Jun 2014 #10
Unfortunately, I doubt they will ever admit it BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #11
too bad. put it in front of their faces...sorry if they don't like it...tough sh*t... CTyankee Jun 2014 #12
They just wear me out BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #13
The really sad aspect of gun nut extremists billh58 Jun 2014 #14
They exploit the word "sensible" BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #15
Car Carry in texas too jimmy the one Jun 2014 #16
Kick this one. Kingofalldems May 2014 #8
Score one for the good guys. Starboard Tack May 2014 #9

Response to billh58 (Original post)

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
5. Most excellent post
Sat May 31, 2014, 05:16 PM
May 2014

I have heard gunners on here state they are against registration. Can we now state the obvious that they are supporting the NRA's agenda?

billh58

(6,635 posts)
6. The argument goes something like:
Sat May 31, 2014, 05:26 PM
May 2014

"registration is just a short step away from confiscation." That's NRA speak for "guns everywhere, for anybody."

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
11. Unfortunately, I doubt they will ever admit it
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 05:50 PM
Jun 2014

And I find them to be the most tenacious fighters for their "rights" I have ever seen. They fight harder than anyone for the right to have as many guns as they want and to carry them anywhere without restriction. It shows how attached they are to their guns and quite literally think they cannot live without them. I have read now they are calling it a "fundamental right" which is NRA speak for "your dead kids don't mean shit to me."

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
13. They just wear me out
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:02 PM
Jun 2014

One thing I am rather vocal on is gun control, and I proudly proclaim myself a "control-freak". I want the same laws that every other civilized country has to curb gun violence. I'm so tired of the plain insanity/NRA lies that say guns everywhere are safe. They twist logic to try to convince the agnostic that guns are not meant for one thing and that is to kill. But truly, they fight and fight to their last breath and they just wear me out.

It is very clear: it does not matter what they say or think because only their intense fear drives them. We don't need to have their approval for gun control measures which they all will fight every time. I find it hilarious that all the gunners on here list the kind of control measures they would approve, as if their voice as gun owners is the only one that matters. Right now, I'm happy that most of the country is starting to ignore them, because the cries of grieving families is a sound that is too loud to ignore. You have to be absolutely insane to hear about dead kids and your first thought be to worry about your own guns. And yet, that is absolutely their first response, to jump on every thread screeching about their rights. We need to stop listing to religious nuts, racist nuts, homophobic nuts,and gun nuts. We've let them guide policy with their fear tactics far too long.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
14. The really sad aspect of gun nut extremists
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:30 PM
Jun 2014

is that presume to speak for ALL American gun owners, which could not be further from reality. Most level-headed and sane Americans are in favor of sensible gun control laws. The losers we see crying about their "Second Amendment rights" on the Internet are the fringe, and are in the same category as the open carry assholes in Texas.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
15. They exploit the word "sensible"
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:37 PM
Jun 2014

Just like they forget the word "regulated". I'm simply for gun control. I have lived in countries with strict gun control and was demonstrably a whole lot safer. Just like the stupid idea that we can't single payer or similar because of the fear campaign, the same goes for the gun lobby that have convinced these fearful people that if they don't have a gun at all times, they will be instantly attacked. No one puts the logic together that less guns on the street period means less guns. Their simple minds just think that their guns will be taken away and a whole gang of "urban" youths, armed to teeth, will be showing up at their house right away. It's just madness.

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
16. Car Carry in texas too
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 11:12 AM
Jun 2014

bill: .. the same category as the open carry assholes in Texas.

Car carry in texas is also popular, with not unexpected results:

14.BOERNE, TX, 5/24/14: A 2-year-old boy accidentally shot and killed himself Saturday in Boerne.. The boy shot himself in the head.. He had been left alone in a car while his parents were moving items in and out of the car... He found a pistol that was in the center console of the car and shot himself in the head.. taken to University Hospital, pronounced dead.

17.SAN ANTONIO, TX, 5/26/14: A 14-year-old was hospitalized after San Antonio police said he accidentally shot himself in the leg on the Southeast Side. Officers said the teen initially fired a gunshot around midnight as he walked by a home. The teen then got into a car, drove around the block and accidentally shot himself, ... The teen was taken to University Hospital for treatment, but his condition was not immediately released. Police are investigating why the teen opened fired near the home before he injured himself.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/04/1300329/-Jeez-I-hope-those-10-guys-with-AR-15s-in-this-restaurant-don-t-have-keychains-GunFAIL-LXXI?detail=email

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