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Tuesday Afternoon

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Sat Mar 30, 2013, 06:35 PM Mar 2013

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Shame and modesty are learned behaviors. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #1
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Yep-- probably has a lot more to do with no fur, footpads or hooves, but... TreasonousBastard Mar 2013 #3
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Sackcloth.... defacto7 Apr 2013 #5
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It's too bad it's not simply optional ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #6
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It all goes together. rrneck Apr 2013 #9
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Shame and modesty are learned behaviors.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 06:40 PM
Mar 2013

They aren't natural, they are cultural, and based upon the desire by humans to exercise control upon others through shame and intimidation.

I don't know why, but that's what I honestly believe.

Left to ourselves in a more natural and nurturing environment, we'd all be buck nekkid!

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TreasonousBastard

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3. Yep-- probably has a lot more to do with no fur, footpads or hooves, but...
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 06:55 PM
Mar 2013

we might have lost our fur and footpads after we discovered how good we look in clothes.

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defacto7

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5. Sackcloth....
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:10 AM
Apr 2013

Ooops, wrong group...

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ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
6. It's too bad it's not simply optional
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:15 PM
Apr 2013

Not just for attractive young women, but anybody. Clothes are protective of course, but can signify status, so in that way they divide. If someone dresses oddly, or out of gender norms certain assumptions are made. A man in a suit gives a different impression than a man in a flannel shirt and work boots. I think clothing can profoundly affect opinion.

It would be interesting to live in a world where the only clothing oddity would be the weather--- if someone was running around naked the cold.

I wonder how social barriers would change? If the little tells clothing gives off weren't present?

Being human, I suspect we'd do more body art, because for all our lemming like qualities, we feel ourselves to be, and experience the world as individuals.

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rrneck

(17,671 posts)
9. It all goes together.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 01:25 AM
Apr 2013

We need extra protection since we lost most of our hair and our feet got tender. But people invariably attach symbolic importance to every damn thing around them, and clothing is also adornment and an indicator of social status.

I expect in these post Cartesian times the "scrim" that exists between us and everything and everyone else is especially pronounced. Clothing is an important part of how we define ourselves to others and to ourselves.

If we removed the barrier of clothing, would other concepts appear to take its place. Ideology abhors a vacuum.

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