Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumHillary's internal polling numbers must be truly wretched...
given the frenzy of desperate, silly attacks we are seeing about book blurbs and the like.
Has anybody heard anything definite? It feels like something interesting is happening in secret.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)I also think they're really hoping to stop the Sanders campaign here before they face a repeat of '08. Not looking like that's gonna happen- particularly given his numbers in NH.
awake
(3,226 posts)Hillery was not ready for another candidate getting 3,000,000 donations, panic has set in you can tell because she is in attack mode instead of exuding the confidence of a winner. Hillary's fears are what is setting her back she was afraid of using a .gov account for her emails as SOS and now she is afraid of a repeat of 2008.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)the poll numbers are tight and Bernie volunteers that will get the voters to the caucuses outnumber Hillary's 10 to one.
ErisDiscordia
(443 posts)I would think Bernie2016 have enough volunteers to both chauffeur and provide child care! Now that would be a good demonstration of democratic socialism.
ypsfonos
(144 posts)ErisDiscordia
(443 posts)unless the sitter gave up the chance to caucus.
It's a serious problem...caucusing is time-consuming and there are no children allowed.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I'm taking a break from GD-P for my blood pressure.
Can you enlighten me on what that means?
QC
(26,371 posts)This is not the behavior of a campaign that thinks it's winning.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)That was titled something along the lines of How Obama let Progressives Down. It's apparently now a thing proving Bernie hates the President or something.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)If people were to make an honest assessment of Obama's presidency, they'd realize that what Bill Press says in this book is accurate.
I never supported Hillary. I was an Obama fan from the 2007/2008 primary on and I think that assessment is accurate! Obama is a pivot from the top rung of establishment to the top rung of change: he has one foot on each rung. And we needed this change to further the change I hope we'll see in a Sanders presidency.
That doesn't mean I, or Bernie or Bill Press hate the president! Far from it! Hell, the man told us to keep his feet to the fire and push him to do the right thing. He has on some issues and didn't on others.
Some people don't seem to have thick enough skin to follow politics if they think that requesting folks read a book is a slam.
ypsfonos
(144 posts)of course it's simple truth, nothing else.
"Bill Press makes the case why, long after taking the oath of office, the next president of the United States must keep rallying the people who elected him or her on behalf of progressive causes. That is the only way real change will happen,"
Jarqui
(10,131 posts)They are anxious but they have to be.
The tables have turned some. She may be ahead by a bit but Bernie's folks are showing up for the campaign events and getting fired up - far more than hers. He has 15,000 volunteers for a vote of maybe 200,000. I think Clinton has 4,000.
If she doesn't stop Bernie here, she may have to wait until South Carolina before she gets her first victory. He's in good shape in New Hampshire and a win in Iowa would tighten Nevada that's already getting close.
She needs to win Iowa more than Bernie does. Because her loss will give his campaign a boost and potentially deliver nearly a full month of media coverage where he's leading the primary. The media won't be able to bury him him any more. Clinton will have thrown everything at him and been unable to stop him.
If he loses, he came from 55 pts down to make it close against the Clinton machine. And the media knows he did that taking nasty unfair/false hit jobs from the NYT and WaPo, very little mainstream media coverage, a corrupt DNC, etc.
I used to feel Bernie had to have this. Now I feel it's considerably more important for her campaign than his.
They can't help but be worried, given how quickly Sanders has risen.
Qutzupalotl
(14,340 posts)considering all the resources they squandered there.
A close second by Sanders, followed by a big win in New Hampshire, will be read as momentum shifting in Sanders' favor. So Iowa is not a must-win for Sanders, but it is for Clinton.
I really think To win nomination Bernie needs iowa for momenturm.they will dismiss a NH win as being next door to vermont BS.
Now even if Clinton were to win iowa by couple points i don't think it's over.but it got a bit harder.still Clinton is dealing with fact despite all the advantages she is having trouble with someone dismissed as "Fringe Candiate"
Problem for us Is usually when Iowa and NH have different winners on dem side the iowa winner preveils.
The iowa poll isn't anything clinton side should brag about.Bernie is stronger postion to win than Santurum on GOP side barely won in 2012.Obama in 2008 actully had 7 point lead in their poll just before iowa.Turnout can win Iowa for bernie.
Jarqui
(10,131 posts)Sure can. But you need enthusiasm to get it. I think Bernie's camp has it significantly better than Clinton's.
In about 30 hours, we'll know.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)I have argured for some time enthusiam seems to be with bernie not clinton.to win a caucus especilly Iowa you need committed enthustic people.I have seen no evidance clinton has that over bernie.it's alughable to think people will come out for events for bernie but won't come out for the caucus.
wilsonbooks
(972 posts)Scares them more than anything. I don't think she can keep up. This would help to explain why she would go to a campaign event for a big hedge fund last week. The optics of which couldn't be worse. They have been burning through money like water.