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AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:08 PM Feb 2016

Damn, aren't we getting a bunch of lessons in kitchen sink politics?

When people with power and a lack of integrity are facing an existential threat, they will say anything and do anything to survive. We are seeing it with the flurry of attacks on Bernie. This is how it is to fight against the establishment. You get to see the full ugliness of human beings come out.

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Damn, aren't we getting a bunch of lessons in kitchen sink politics? (Original Post) AZ Progressive Feb 2016 OP
We can do this....!! haikugal Feb 2016 #1
We have to do this Nite Owl Feb 2016 #5
Bernie knew this Nite Owl Feb 2016 #2
I just read a comment LiberalElite Feb 2016 #3
Either they are deathly afraid of a "socialist" running in the GE or... AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #4
Their response to me just now was LiberalElite Feb 2016 #6
Horrible with independents, much lower youth turnout, and loss of some progressives. stillwaiting Feb 2016 #11
If Hillary is the coronated nominee, bvar22 Feb 2016 #14
Hillary is lucky. She can go out on the campaign trail and stick to her message. But jillan Feb 2016 #7
Bernie supporters should make their own PAC and independently attack Hillary AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #8
What about Move On? jillan Feb 2016 #9
Is MoveOn doing negative attack ads on Hillary? AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #10
what "message"? nt LiberalElite Feb 2016 #12
That's now how we win Rebkeh Feb 2016 #13
Yup. I got a little teary - eyed at first but now I"m PISSED LiberalElite Feb 2016 #15
I'd like that but for instance blacks are siding with Hillary and don't know the full story with her AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #16
gotta make sure more of them turn out like this tk2kewl Feb 2016 #17

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
2. Bernie knew this
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:11 PM
Feb 2016

yet he is doing it anyway. He is doing it for us and I am sure proud of him and proud to be a part of what he is trying to do.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
3. I just read a comment
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:12 PM
Feb 2016

in GD (not GD-P) from someone titled "Hillary Clinton will be the nominee" or something like that, decrying her dirty trick campaigns in 2008 and 2016 - but they're still voting for her. They closed with think about it folks" I responded that THEY should think about their vote a little more.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
4. Either they are deathly afraid of a "socialist" running in the GE or...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

they are one of the "haves" in society that has benefited from the past 30 years and are afraid of "redistribution politics" becoming popular in America again (i.e. they are selfish.)

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
6. Their response to me just now was
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:16 PM
Feb 2016

"President Cruz"? i said I'm not falling for the scare tactics anymore I revised it to add that recent polls show Sanders beats the Repugs, not Clinton so it 's they who could be responsible for the hypothetical "President Cruz"

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
11. Horrible with independents, much lower youth turnout, and loss of some progressives.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:23 PM
Feb 2016

That's what we get with a Hillary nomination.

If they are scared of President Cruz they better wise up quick.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
14. If Hillary is the coronated nominee,
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:40 PM
Feb 2016

she will never be president.
If you haven't bailed out of Wall Street and used the money to buy property in the Woods and started growing your own food, don't wait too long.
It takes two or three years to get everything up and running.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
7. Hillary is lucky. She can go out on the campaign trail and stick to her message. But
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:18 PM
Feb 2016

she has Bill to do her dirty work for her.
And Chelsea.

Bernie needs a Bill, maybe not that nasty but someone to go out there with a few kitchen sinks of their own.

I want to say no more Mr Nice Guy, but that's not Bernie.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
8. Bernie supporters should make their own PAC and independently attack Hillary
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:19 PM
Feb 2016

We all have a stake in Bernie winning and exposing the corruption. We all ourselves face a dark future without a Bernie win. We should have the right to attack Hillary.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
13. That's now how we win
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:30 PM
Feb 2016

If he does that, if he becomes the establishment, then what's the point? That is exactly what they want us to do.

This is a marathon, not a race ... and it is hard. You cannot win every battle in a war, keep your chill and stay in perspective.

It's not over yet. Not even close.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
16. I'd like that but for instance blacks are siding with Hillary and don't know the full story with her
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:51 PM
Feb 2016

They think she is their friend when she is not.

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