"His message simply doesn't connect

[LibDemAlways]

with the majority of Democrats." That from a Clinton supporter today elsewhere on this board.

Unbelievable to see a statement like that on DU. If Bernie's basic message of "the system is rigged and we need to fix it and make it work for everybody" isn't a concept generally accepted by Democrats, then the party I've been supporting all these years has left me. Am I wrong? What message is supposedly favored by the majority of Democrats? It's perfectly fine to accept big money from crooks. Vote based on a candidate's gender. Vote for the one who haughtily has a dissenter removed from the room.

What am I missing? What message are Hillary voters embracing?

[Rebkeh]

1. I just posted an OP about this not two seconds after yours

Give it a read

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280132341

[LibDemAlways]

4. A very thoughtful analysis.

I am still stymied that anyone calling himself a Democrat would reject Bernie's message outright. It is so basic and simple. Who doesn't see the inequality? I know Republicans who support Bernie because they get it. Why is it so hard for "the majority" of Democrats? Or is that poster simply wrong?

[Rebkeh]

8. They believe the message

They just don't believe it's possible to get it. They love what it is, they can't see how it can be done.

I'm stymied too, it's like they believe we can overcome all kinds of things, just not that thing. I don't get it.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. The problem is that the Dems are in on the rigging.

That's why fixing the corruption is a non-starter for them.

Fairness, morality and feelings is not something that connects with the New Democrats.

[Hiraeth]

5. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ they are happy, safe and secure with the status quo. Don't rock the boat, baby!!

[LibDemAlways]

7. Apparently true, but depressing as hell.

[FighttheFuture]

3. "His message simply doesn't connect with the majority of Clinton-crats". There, corrected it

for her.

[bernbabe]

6. Hard to connect

With Lemmings.

That’s what I'm calling them now, Lemmings.

My apologies to actual lemmings.

[MattSh]

9. Sad but true. This was alerted...

On Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:14 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

"His message simply doesn't connect
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280132340

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

The poster characterizes Hillary thusly: "t's perfectly fine to accept big money from crooks. Vote based on a candidate's gender. Vote for the one who haughtily has a dissenter removed from the room." Hillary IS THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE of the Democratic Party. Posts like this, at this stage of the game, are a CLEAR violation of the TOS.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:48 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Presumptive nominee? Really now. There was nothing offensive about that post, unless you consider the truth to be offensive.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Hillary is not the nominee. Stop trying to move the goalposts on the TOS. (eyeball) (double face palm)
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerts like these *should be* a CLEAR violation of the TOS.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Post is meant to be rude and disruptive. I am getting tired of this. Hide it and stop it.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[LibDemAlways]

10. Isn't this the Bernie group? Hillary supporters have

their own group. They can dish it out, but they sure can't take it.

[TBF]

11. They alert all over the board -

I think it is what they do best. I just had a jury I responded to in which the alerter actually said "Hillary will obviously be our nominee".

Hell, here it is (I was juror #3):

Automated Message
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

Mail Message
On Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:57 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Don't be discouraged by the results of what someone called Stupid Tuesday.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280132380

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Two major problems with this post. First is the dissmissiveness hurled at southern Democrats simply because they overwhelmingly support Hillary. Worse than this is the following statement: "every vote for Hillary from here on out is a vote for Donald Trump." Hillary will obviously be our nominee. She does not deserve this kind of abuse and it's counterproductive- and against TOS for DU.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:05 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sorry, can't hide this. The OP has stated opinions that are backed up by data Hillary doesn't do well against Republicans in the GE. If the alerter has data that contradicts this, then post it in thread or start a new OP to correct the information.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't agree with most of the post but it's just an opinion.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Hillary will obviously be our nominee". Smh.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I keep hearing this is a protected group from the other side of the aisle. So is this group!
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[LibDemAlways]

13. Seems to me that if these groups are

protected, they should be protected from nuisance alerts by posters who aren't part of the group. I do not read posts in the Hillary group for a variety of reasons, most notably my physical and mental health, and I sure as hell don't spend my time alerting their stuff and wasting other DUers' time having to pass judgement on it. A political message board is no place for the thin skinned.

[TTUBatfan2008]

14. Of course his message isn't the issue...

...otherwise how do we explain Clinton suddenly using the same language in her speeches after the results in Iowa/New Hampshire?

[Ino]

15. If it doesn't connect...

then why has Hillary co-opted it?! She's adopted most all of his positions (for now).

[Mufaddal]

16. "What am I missing? What message are Hillary voters embracing?"

She's Hillary of Tarsus: "I have become all things to all people." Her supporters hear exactly whatever it is that they want to hear, and that's what they're embracing. Moderate on Wall St? Then that's what you hear from her. Tough on Wall St? That's what you hear. Want to simply defend the gains of the ACA? Hillary's your candidate. Want to move towards national healthcare? You'll hear that instead.

She's the perfect Janus/chameleon hybrid.

[LibDemAlways]

17. Hillary supporters on DU aren't especially

fond of enunciating their reasons for supporting her. Lots of cheerleading. Little substance. The post I cited is typical. Make a blanket unsupported statement critical of Bernie that adds nothing to the conversation.

If Hillary is indeed a blank slate upon which her supporters can draw whatever conclusions they wish, it doesn't bode well for her should she win the nomination. Most voters want to support a candidate with convictions - not one with finger to the wind who keeps them guessing.