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Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:42 PM

 

Clinton's Fracking:What is her position?

Look, I'm not going to bash Clinton here. I will just let her own words be the deciding factor for those that read this post. I will say this though, I actually would prefer her over any of the republicans, but it's hard for me to support any candidate that adopts this position on fracking.

"An investigation by Mother Jones found that Hillary Clinton personally lobbied for U.S. fracking rights overseas as secretary of state. Speaking at a 2010 conference of foreign ministers, Clinton said, ďI know that in some places [it] is controversial, but [shale] gas is the cleanest fossil fuel available for power today."

Read the whole article here: https://theintercept.com/2016/03/09/hillary-clinton-wants-to-regulate-fracking-but-still-accepts-a-lot-of-fracking-money/

For some of us Sanders is the only viable environmental solution we have left. A new study out says climate change is happening even faster than we thought. Here is a link from the Gaurdian. http://gu.com/p/4hdqe?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

All I am asking is for the persons that support Clinton, hold your own candidates feet to the fire on this issue. I won't let Bernie get away with anything less than a total ban, I want my kids to have an inhabitable planet. I also hope that people that support Bernie, also take this stance. Zero fracking.

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Tragl1 Mar 2016 OP
Press Virginia Mar 2016 #1
revbones Mar 2016 #2
bernbabe Mar 2016 #3
Scootaloo Mar 2016 #5
monicaangela Mar 2016 #4
Tragl1 Mar 2016 #6
monicaangela Mar 2016 #7
Tragl1 Mar 2016 #9
monicaangela Mar 2016 #11
polly7 Mar 2016 #8
Tragl1 Mar 2016 #10

Response to Tragl1 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:45 PM

1. What day is it and who is her audience?

 

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Response to Tragl1 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:45 PM

2. Good luck.

 

There were Hillary supporters here the other day posting about how banning fracking would be devastating to the economy. I had to check that I wasn't on a Republican site.

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Response to revbones (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:47 PM

3. Hey, *my* water is fine...

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Response to revbones (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:49 PM

5. same poster was arguing that there need to be more stringint restrictions on abortion

 

Of course, they'll still be posting (after their hides clear up.)

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Response to Tragl1 (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:47 PM

4. I agree Tragl1

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If we don't begin reversing the effects of climate change, none of the rest of the issues are going to matter in the very near future.

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Response to monicaangela (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:53 PM

6. I hope so

 

I hope the next debate climate change is discussed as the major issue it really is, the mayors in Florida are trying. Hopefully, Clinton can "find religion" on fracking as well.

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Response to Tragl1 (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:47 AM

7. Watched the debates last night

Climate change was discussed but not nearly enough, especially since it will probably have an effect on Florida before much of the rest of the country. As for Clinton getting religion on fracking. I wouldn't count on that if I were you. She's a corporate dem, and backed heavily by the fossil fuel industries.

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Hillary Clinton continues to fundraise with fracking investors, despite her assertion Sunday that she would largely curtail fracking inside the U.S.

Fracking is a controversial mining technique used to extract natural gas from shale rock. It releases vast quantities of methane into the atmosphere and groundwater, frequently poisoning the water supply of nearby communities.

On Wednesday, Clinton will appear at a $575-a-head fundraising lunch at a Ritz-Carlton Hotel on the Northern California coast hosted by Alisa Wood, a partner at the international private equity firm Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. (KKR).
https://theintercept.com/2016/03/09/hillary-clinton-wants-to-regulate-fracking-but-still-accepts-a-lot-of-fracking-money/

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Even if she says she will stop fracking, which she hasn't, I would never believe her.

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Response to monicaangela (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:21 AM

9. At least it was discussed a little

 

I feel as if both parties are sticking their head in the sand when it comes to fracking and climate change. If we don't get a handle on this soon, I fear we won't. Bernie is the only canidate that I feel is going to actually do something about it. Sadly.

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Response to Tragl1 (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:23 AM

11. I agree Traglr

That is why support and will vote for Bernie Sanders on Tuesday and will continue to support him long after this election is over.

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Response to Tragl1 (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:51 AM

8. I thought this was a good video on it:

https://

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017336883

As to the rest of the world:

How Hillary Clinton's State Department Sold Fracking to the World

A trove of secret documents details the US government's global push for shale gas.

óBy Mariah Blake | September/October 2014 Issue

ONE ICY MORNING in February 2012, Hillary Clinton's plane touched down in the Bulgarian capital, Sofia, which was just digging out from a fierce blizzard. Wrapped in a thick coat, the secretary of state descended the stairs to the snow-covered tarmac, where she and her aides piled into a motorcade bound for the presidential palace. That afternoon, they huddled with Bulgarian leaders, including Prime Minister Boyko Borissov, discussing everything from Syria's bloody civil war to their joint search for loose nukes. But the focus of the talks was fracking. The previous year, Bulgaria had signed a five-year, $68 million deal, granting US oil giant Chevron millions of acres in shale gas concessions. Bulgarians were outraged. Shortly before Clinton arrived, tens of thousands of protesters poured into the streets carrying placards that read "Stop fracking with our water" and "Chevron go home." Bulgaria's parliament responded by voting overwhelmingly for a fracking moratorium.


Clinton urged Bulgarian officials to give fracking another chance. According to Borissov, she agreed to help fly in the "best specialists on these new technologies to present the benefits to the Bulgarian people." But resistance only grew. The following month in neighboring Romania, thousands of people gathered to protest another Chevron fracking project, and Romania's parliament began weighing its own shale gas moratorium. Again Clinton intervened, dispatching her special envoy for energy in Eurasia, Richard Morningstar, to push back against the fracking bans. The State Depart≠ment's lobbying effort culminated in late May 2012, when Morningstar held a series of meetings on fracking with top Bulgarian and Romanian officials. He also touted the technology in an interview on Bulgarian national radio, saying it could lead to a fivefold drop in the price of natural gas. A few weeks later, Romania's parliament voted down its proposed fracking ban and Bulgaria's eased its moratorium.



Hillary Clinton is welcomed to Sofia by Bulgarian Foreign Affairs Minister Nikolay Mladenov, left. US Department of State/flickr

Goldwyn had a long history of promoting drilling overseasóboth as a Department of Energy official under Bill Clinton and as a representative of the oil industry. From 2005 to 2009 he directed the US-Libya Business Association, an organization funded primarily by US oil companiesóincluding Chevron, Exxon Mobil, and Marathonóclamoring to tap Libya's abundant supply. Goldwyn lobbied Congress for pro-Libyan policies and even battled legislation that would have allowed families of the Lockerbie bombing victims to sue the Libyan government for its alleged role in the attack.


But environmental groups were barely consulted, while industry played a crucial role. When Goldwyn unveiled the initiative in April 2010, it was at a meeting of the United States Energy Association, a trade organization representing Chevron, Exxon Mobil, and ConocoPhillips, all of which were pursuing fracking overseas. Among their top targets was Poland, which preliminary studies suggested had abundant shale gas. The day after Goldwyn's announcement, the US Embassy in Warsaw helped organize a shale gas conference, underwritten by these same companies (plus the oil field services company Halliburton) and attended by officials from the departments of State and Energy.


http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/sep/10/how-hillary-clintons-state-department-sold-fracking-to-the-world

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Response to polly7 (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:22 AM

10. Thanks for the video, it's a good link.

 

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