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HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
14. She's a politician from the last century...she doesn't 'get' the internet as archive
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:16 AM
Mar 2016

Like many old-school politicians she believes she creates history for people with everything that she repeats.

Before the internet, the public record was often sketchy, difficult for avg folks to search and if truth could be found difficult to disseminate competitively with catapulted false history. That put opponents at a disadvantage in fighting off twisted truths.

The internet has change almost everything, the Secretary's approach to reality not so much.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
2. in the other group
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:04 PM
Mar 2016

someone said "She's had a great week of pulling the country together and being the adult .." So if she does it is spreading to her group.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
3. I'm wondering what her staff is like
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:13 PM
Mar 2016

They should have some political wonks that catch blatant errors like these recent ones. So what's up with that? Are they experimenting with trotting out Trumpian fictoids, or is it an echo chamber around her, or some crazy mix of who knows what?

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
5. I go with echo chamber. They never hear the bad stuff. I feel like I have forgotten
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:26 PM
Mar 2016

so much about the Clintons. How much money they cost the country, all the *gates, I just used to blame it on the Republicans. Now I just really do not know.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280144556

JFKDem62

(383 posts)
13. I agree, where is her staff? They should be vetting her prepared remarks
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:44 AM
Mar 2016

for accuracy and potential fall out.

Something seems very off about all of it.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. Nah. She just can't keep track of her lies and flip flopping.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:25 PM
Mar 2016

If you ever had a chronic liar in your life, you know they eventually get caught up in them not remembering what they said when and to whom. It's known as the chickens coming home to roost.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
8. She has no scruples...
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:47 PM
Mar 2016

She is lying blatantly and profusely on purpose. She is planting doubts in the low-info voters' minds. And while the other side scrambles to disprove one lie, she's on to the second & third lie. They can't get their message out because they're busy trying to overcome her nonsense.

She doesn't care any more. She doesn't care if WE know she's a liar, or even if we PROVE it. She has the media in her pocketbook.

She's given up maintaining even a semblance of honesty in favor of votes by any and all means. She doesn't care if she's right, only that she is First Woman President (TM).

See these links for an excellent explanation of techniques she (and her supporters) often use:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fractal_wrongness
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PRATT
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/One-way_hash_argument

madamesilverspurs

(15,803 posts)
9. Can't say, but . . .
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:48 PM
Mar 2016

A few years back I attended an event focusing on local hunger issues, participating as one of several organizers and speakers. Recently a friend shared some pics he'd taken, including a photo he’d taken of that event that showed a rather prominent person standing beside me as I spoke. To this day I have no memory of his being in attendance. Apparently I, too, am either a liar or suffer from Alzheimer's.

SunTzuX

(3 posts)
18. Medical
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

On a side note here, has there been any news on medications she is taking?

Remember her repeated health issues, passing out in the past?

The reason I point this out is Ive noticed visual symptoms that might lead one to question if shes using steroids, dexamethasone, prednisone to treat her condition.

These arent the muscle builders obviously but powerful anti inflammatory agents. Very helpful but strong side effects, especially over the long term.

Weight gain, puffy bloating especially in the face a rounding/moonish look. There is also a slew of personality changes, hidden to most Id imagine.

Of course campaigning is a life of fast food and empty calories. I dont think it would disqualify her, nor should but having lived with family members forced to use it.. It gives me pause.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
19. Honestly, it may have to do with --
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 02:02 PM
Mar 2016

her head injury. I am saying this as someone who is two years past a "mild" concussion and still having some pretty serious cognitive problems from it. Your memory -- both short term and long term -- does some truly weird shit, especially when you are overly tired or stressed. I remember reading excerpts from an email in which Clinton was being described as being often "confused" after her injury --that is a classic post-concussion syndrome sign. It would not surprise me AT all that she might still be having issues.

With that said, I am not overly worried about her ability to handle the job in general.

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