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GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:51 AM Mar 2016

Clinton Camp troubled by "Enthusiasm Gap"

But let us take a moment to examine this theory, particular with the Democratic primary. Based on all the metrics listed above, it should be clear that Bernie Sanders is the candidate whose campaign is engulfed in enthusiasm. His army of supporters have flocked to his rallies, producing crowds of upwards of 30,000 people, causing many venues to overflow. He raised nearly $44 million last month and now has amassed over 6 million contributions and growing. His loyal followers frequent online polls and exuberantly declare Sanders the winner of each and every Democratic debate or town hall performance. In fact, a recent NBC Poll has shown Sanders within 6 points nationally of Hillary Clinton, the closest that number has been since the race began. All this combined with victories in five out of the last six states and it would appear that the enthusiasm and momentum are clearly on the side of Bernie Sanders.

Especially when you compare his campaign to that of Hillary Clinton. Clinton's rallies are never raucous, overflowing events. In fact, her most recent rally was held at the Apollo Theater, a venue that seats a mere 1,500 people. Clinton raised $13 million less than Bernie Sanders last month and she only recently amassed her one-millionth campaign contribution in mid-March. She often loses online polls by 60+ points after debates regardless of how well either her supporters or the media say she fared. Her national lead in the polls has all but vanished and after having won five consecutive primaries on March 15th, she has only won a single one since. Based on all this, there would appear to be a distinct lack of enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton's campaign at this point in time.


http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/3/30/the-silent-majority-how-hillary-clintons-enthusiasm-gap-is-a-complete-media-fabrication

The article goes on to claim that despite numbers, money, crowd sizes, online support and caucus blow outs, the Clinton campaign is not in free fall. They allege that Clinton has lots of supporters who are very enthusiastic but..."they don't always show it."


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Clinton Camp troubled by "Enthusiasm Gap" (Original Post) GreatGazoo Mar 2016 OP
She is afraid the GAP will be visible at the next debate. She can't get enough excited people thereismore Mar 2016 #1
oh but what about all those headlines i've seen the last few days? i'm shocked Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #2
Kickin' Faux pas Mar 2016 #3
Maybe the Clinton supporters are like spectators at a golf tournament. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #4
They are largely the same crowd, older and well off, so it is quite possible. /nt Dragonfli Mar 2016 #6
To paraphrase someone, maybe "it depends on what the definition of 'enthusiasm' is" GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #10
Primary & caucus snafus don't help with the enthusiasm gap. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #5
The sad part is many won't, only die hard Democrats will, and the Independents will stay home Dragonfli Mar 2016 #8
I agree the right will be out in droves to vote against her. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #9
i love how they tout he poll numbers now Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #7
I keep saying it Rebkeh Mar 2016 #11
how about that pic of him flying coach and trying to sleep? grasswire Mar 2016 #13
Yesterday at her rally... grasswire Mar 2016 #12
In Florida they used high school students to boost their noise and numbers. GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #14
oh lordy grasswire Mar 2016 #16
Lol EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #15
okay LOL grasswire Mar 2016 #17
I would say "especially her coif"... mak3cats Mar 2016 #18
Playing it cool. EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #19
So it's OK if THEY talk about her clothes & hair? Ino Mar 2016 #21
apparently so nt grasswire Mar 2016 #22
Wait. What? Wasn't it less than a week ago that LiberalElite Mar 2016 #20
And those who don't get in still get to see him when he addresses the overflow crowd. Duckfan Apr 2016 #23

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
1. She is afraid the GAP will be visible at the next debate. She can't get enough excited people
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

to fill 50% of the seats of any venue.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
2. oh but what about all those headlines i've seen the last few days? i'm shocked
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

Shocked i say! Is it possible they are lying to us!!?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,900 posts)
4. Maybe the Clinton supporters are like spectators at a golf tournament.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:57 AM
Mar 2016

They just clap very quietly and politely.

CrispyQ

(36,540 posts)
5. Primary & caucus snafus don't help with the enthusiasm gap.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:59 AM
Mar 2016

I'm sick of HRC supporters claiming CONSPIRACY every time we complain about the irregularities of the voting process. They should be as concerned as Sanders supporters, because, nothing squashes enthusiasm like thinking your vote didn't count. My state went 59% for Bernie but Clinton has all of the SD votes, to date. If my vote means nothing in the primary, why should I give it to you in the general?

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
8. The sad part is many won't, only die hard Democrats will, and the Independents will stay home
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:09 PM
Mar 2016

or vote TRump (a most unfortunate choice and so I hope they will stay home rather than vote Fascist).

The Republican masses that hate Hillary with a burning passion (fairly or not) will come out in record numbers to vote against her,

IMO if she is the nominee, we lose not only the WH, but unfortunately both the Senate and House because of her anchor where coattails should be.

CrispyQ

(36,540 posts)
9. I agree the right will be out in droves to vote against her.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:11 PM
Mar 2016
...her anchor where coattails should be.



And ditto on house/senate, too.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
7. i love how they tout he poll numbers now
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:09 PM
Mar 2016

But don't mention how far they have sunk since last year.

We don't vote here till may. I just showed a 30 year old the pic of bernie getting arrested in 62, and he had texted it to several friends within 5 minutes. He had never heard of Bernie before today and says he's made up his mind. Lol. I told him to do some research first, don't rely on just my opinion. He said " Hillary clinton is the only other choice, right? I know about her. No, i like this guy, show me more.

So i showed him the video of bernie scaring trump

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
11. I keep saying it
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie has not been a celebrity for decades, he can gain more supporters than he can lose. He has more room to grow.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
12. Yesterday at her rally...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:31 PM
Mar 2016

...the person on stage before Hillary came out had to do a "Please Clap" routine to rev up the audience because there was so little energy in the room.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
14. In Florida they used high school students to boost their noise and numbers.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:38 PM
Mar 2016

It doesn't sound like it was the kids' choice to be there.

Florida parents were not happy when the news broke that two busloads of uniformed students from the Palm Beach County District Schools had been taken via district school buses to an official Clinton campaign event.

At the event, former president Bill Clinton was stumping for his wife, 2016 Democratic presidential candidate and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.


http://www.ijreview.com/2016/02/539696-when-school-backtracks-on-busing-kids-to-clinton-rally-parents-had-this-response/

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
17. okay LOL
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

Some members of the Hillary group the other day were talking about how elegant Hillary is, in her mannerisms, her coif, her clothing...especially her "pumps". So maybe her fans are just exhibiting some elegant decorum.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
20. Wait. What? Wasn't it less than a week ago that
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

someone posted a poll that alleged SANDERS suffered from an enthusiasim gap?

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