BLM/Hillary supporter on twitter just called Sanders "the enemy" . . .

[Triana]

And stated (still trying to find her tweets) that: "we've got to keep people stirred up against him." "Don't give him a chance." and "Destroy the enemy completely"

She is a BlackLivesMatter protester/supporter. I had been going back and forth with him/her on events in Seattle today. She was defending BLM's actions today.

Make what you will of that, but it sounds pretty blatant to me.

"Keeping people stirred up against him" -- and --"don't give him a chance" -- and -- "Destroying the enemy completely" -- from a Hillary supporter who supported BLM activities in Seattle today - uh-huh - so THAT'S what this is, it seems. Or, at least part of it.

https://twitter.com/Gloretired

EDIT - and when I pressed her TWICE on why they don't protest HILLARY like they do Sanders -- I got NO answer -- well actually I got tweets containing the phrases above.

Interesting? Oh I think so!

[SusanCalvin]

23. Huh?

And this has happened exactly when?

[udbcrzy2]

28. Maybe you missed the news

Try Google - Ferguson and Baltimore riots. It hasn't been very long ago to forget about.

[Ed Suspicious]

38. I really don't follow you. Are you saying BLM set fire to both cities?

[udbcrzy2]

46. The BLM protests were not always peaceful n/t

[TM99]

48. Tone it down now.

We can criticize the actions done today in Seattle by one sub-group of BLM, however, your posts are starting to look very racist.

As a bi-racial man AND a Sanders supporter AND a host, please just stop this. OK?

[Admiral Loinpresser]

89. +1 n/t

[MyNameGoesHere]

36. I am guessing it is still

those who hunt and murder black people.

[merrily]

47. Please take that load to another forum or group.

[smokey nj]

54. This is a disgusting response. Please delete.

[hootinholler]

72. So fucking wrong

For so many fucking reasons.

Enjoy the rest of DU.

[GoneFishin]

2. It's campaign tactics pure and simple. It could have been a vehicle for advancing the

important issues, but instead it has been cheapened into an anti-Bernie campaign stunt.

[emsimon33]

4. Yes and they are just too obvious

It is tragic as BLM could be a positive movement for critical change in this country but they have ruined their brand.

[Ed Suspicious]

39. Yes. And what are we talking about? 15,000 people turning out to hear a populist inclusive message

about taking the power back? Nope. We're hearing more "not good enough, Bernie." from the gleeful Clinton peeps. This all seems very much like the happiest of accidents for team Clinton or a good diversion gone perfectly to plan.

[artislife]

42. I tell you

They are the ones I am most angry about.

BLM has a noble purpose, but not H supporters.

[tex-wyo-dem]

43. Has BLM been subjugated by...

The HRC campaign and/or the DNC? That is the question. Would certainly explain why BLM has now protested Bernie twice and O'Malley once, but Hil has been untouched (although her public appearances are MUCH more controlled...and considerably smaller).

I don't want to believe that they would stoop to this level, but if they are getting nervous enough, this is just shooting pop bottle rockets compared to what could be coming.

[GoneFishin]

61. They should be nervous. And they are going to resort to dirtier tactics. It's inevitable because

they have no good policy arguments against Bernie. He would be the best President for people making less than $10 million a year. So all they have left is swiftboating smear tactics, and debate dodging.

[hedda_foil]

70. This is starting to remind me of the Brooks Brothers Riot in the 2000 recount.

BLM is a legitimate and important movement. Two people disrupting a massive rally has a staged feeling about it.

[bvar22]

87. You'll have to ask Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

Here is a little Bio on her:

In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:

Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia

Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez

Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo

All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.



FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>

Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.

While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:

But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.

Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:

The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537

The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.

They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."

This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html

Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing




A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly.

bvar22
Cursed with a memory

"I want to thank Debbie Wasserman-Schultz for being an outstanding chair of our party. (Applause.) She is a great partner."--President Obama

With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!

[Doctor_J]

3. I have decided not to vote for Hillary no matter what

She and her supporters are a cancer on the party and the country.

[MissDeeds]

14. I couldn't agree more

[SoapBox]

25. Doctor_J...

I have already decided.

If, by chance she is the nominee...I will not vote for her.

I will write in Bernie's name.

I know there is all the "party" stuff but there are times where one has to take a stand based on beliefs and principle...and not march blindly like a lemming or zombie, even if ordered to.

Go Bernie!

[aspirant]

35. Stating no on Hillary

allows the DNC to replace her or take responsibility for her defeat

[840high]

76. I feel the same way.

[Enthusiast]

32. I am clear done with HRC. I watched her husband damage the nation.

Now this.

[BuelahWitch]

55. Yep, I remember this...n/t

[Paka]

45. I agree with you completely.

I will most likely have to leave the democratic party if she is the nominee. One can only hope and keep working for a better resolution.

[GoneFishin]

62. I totally agree.

[L0oniX]

71. +1

[sellitman]

74. You are wrong

Ralph Nader supporters learned that the hard way.

If nothing else use your vote to block a Total Right Wing Takeover of our Country and Judicial System.

[restorefreedom]

80. a freakin men

i will pull the lever for bozo the clown before ever voting for hillary.

[retrowire]

5. A few errant morons are not going to make me stop caring

about BLM.

The ignorant will forever be ignorant. And time is better spent helping those who will accept help. That twitter feed was full of talking instead of listening. Those types of people won't be reasoned with. They're too angry, and anger does not welcome reason.

[SusanCalvin]

24. Exactly. nt

[questionseverything]

78. hi susan...wanted you to see this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017285229

this gentleman gets it

[SusanCalvin]

82. What a nice guy. I like and appreciate him a lot.

I actually saw a video of one of the Seattle people where she seemed like a reasonable person who made a lot of sense.

My issues with BLM (yeah, I know, actually define that) at the Seattle event were that a) they acted like they were being suppressed when they were actually being allowed to speak (as far as I could make out), and b) they refused an interview afterwards.

Perhaps there was a reason for refusing the interview (I don't know Seattle politics nor the history of that station and that reporter), but it sure didn't look good on the surface.

[questionseverything]

83. i would love to see the video were they made sense

if you have a link

at the time i was just disappointed that so many people were denied their chance to hear bernie,his campaign is life or death for the 30 million the aca left behind and on a broader basis the entire country

the gentleman in the video i posted made me realize lots of people get what we are up against so i wanted to share

[SusanCalvin]

84. I'll try to find it again.

It was somewhere on DU.

[jalan48]

6. So the BLM folks are being played?

[HooptieWagon]

7. And paid.

[onecaliberal]

8. ^^THAT^^

[Hydra]

9. The sincere ones, yes

It's clear that some or all of the leadership has been subverted though, and is working for the HRC campaign. In doing so, they destroyed their image as movement. They are a political tool. Sad, HRC's history clearly shows that she is no friend to AAs.

[jalan48]

16. It is interesting that they are really trying to disrupt Bernie's message.

He was to speak about Social Security and Medicare, programs that are important to millions of people. What he had to say got lost in the protest. They are trying to change his message into one that says he doesn't care about people of color. Sounds like Karl Rove.

[Hydra]

18. If it is, it's a clumsy Rove copycat

But more and more is coming out, and HRC's campaign cheerleaders are freaking out about all of it. "It was supposed to work!" is probably a good characterization.

[BillZBubb]

11. Either that or they are as dumb as a box of rocks.

You choose.

[bahrbearian]

22. Both

[SoapBox]

27. I do wonder about that...

And is there just stupid shit that is getting a handful of crazy, stirred up to do this stuff?

[retrowire]

12. I wouldn't doubt it...

It's very easy to manipulate a group of people who are angry or fearful. Fear and anger are powerful motivators...

But so is money.

Not gonna say that money is changing hands here, but... PERHAPS something is amiss...

I'm skeptical of conspiracy though. I like to think that perhaps the group is just so misdirected and angry that they don't pay attention to those actually trying to help them...

Like, what if they're just so mad that all they see is an old WHITE MALE when they see Bernie? Then there's the people who try to explain to them that this WHITE MALE is actually on their side! They don't want to hear that, they've got pride, and anger. And that's not a good mix.

It's like a child throwing a temper tantrum, they aren't going to stop til they tire out or get EXACTLY what they want. In this case though... I have no idea what it is anymore.

At first they wanted the candidates to simply say "Black Lives Matter" without garnishing it with "All Lives Matter"... Bernie did that. Then they wanted someone to "Say her name!" Bernie did that. No other candidate has followed their instruction to the T as much as Bernie and yet... They just keep attacking.

I... really am starting to hope they stop.

[Pharaoh]

17. ^^yep^^

[snagglepuss]

37. Nail meet hammer. Well said. nt

[Triana]

13. I think some are, yes.

I support their cause, but the tactics used today and at netroots - NOPE.

I think some Hillary folks are perhaps using the BLM movement to their advantage against Sanders. Which hurts BLM. And Sanders. I don't think they care about hurting BLM. I do think they care about hurting Sanders - he's the real target.

[stillwaiting]

60. It hurts Hillary too. These tactics are ridiculously divisive. It is splitting our coalition.

If it continues or heaven forbid intensifies, then more and more Hillary supporters might not vote for Bernie and more and more Bernie supporters might not vote for Hillary in the general. That only benefits the Republicans (and they ARE much worse for PoC and average Americans in general). I guess if this continues and BLM continues to overtly demonize Bernie in such a vitriolic manner that it turns off his supporters from being able to vote for Hillary then we're going to need Trump to be the nominee. Karl Rove couldn't have devised a better scheme to tear apart our coalition. He must be very, very happy. And, I am very, very sad.

For the record: I will vote for Hillary in the general if I have to do so.

Edited to clarify: It hurts Hillary because there is the APPEARANCE that her campaign could be in part responsible since she potentially benefits from all of this. At least there is the appearance of this to a not insignificant number of people, and Hillary does have a history of using some very shady campaign tricks on race in her past (as opposed to Bernie). It's unfortunate all around, but if BLM is really going to be calling Bernie the "enemy" on a repeated basis then we have a serious problem here.

[villager]

52. Elements and movements in the left always managed to get played

I've seen the circular firing squad over and over again, usually abetted by those outside the left, who stand to profit the most -- when their power, once again, remains without a meaningful challenge.

[jalan48]

66. Yep-keep the two groups from combining forces while shuttling the BLM into the conservative center.

[BlueJazz]

10. I would tell the lady to choose your enemies wisely. The wrong choice could be quite dangerous.

[sabrina 1]

15. When I pressed for answers from the NRN 'protesters' such as 'are you a

Hillary supporter', I can't print what the responses were! Lol!

So I'm going with 'these are Hillary supporters', since they refused to answer the many people who asked them 'are you a Hillary supporter' and some of them responded with nasty personal attacks. Which only confirmed my first impressions. These ARE Hillary supporters.

And let them prove otherwise. The fact that they ONLY target Hillary's most serious threat for the nomination, NOT any Republican, not Hillary, is all the proof I need.

[Hydra]

19. The real giveaway was when the netroots event happened

The usual suspects here had ALL of the talking points ready and lined up, and they sang in perfect harmony. Coincidence?

[sabrina 1]

20. Yes, NRN, a Third Way construct, started by Third Way former Republican, Kos

who is openly anti-Liberal/Progressive and currently thoroughly frustrated that his blog is overwhelmingly, despite all his attempt to control it, for BERNIE.

Prove me wrong Hillary, this is being done on your behalf and is definitely backfiring.

[Enthusiast]

33. I believe you have nailed it.

[GoneFishin]

63. Stands to reason.

[JackInGreen]

21. Do any of our usually vocal

Individuals who seem to be in opposition have any input on this?

[dreamnightwind]

26. Waiting for the talking points is my guess - eom

[Hydra]

30. They're in full damage control mode right now

This wasn't supposed to come out, and they're not quite sure what to do about it yet.

[merrily]

50. What damage control mode?

The tweet that supposedly apologized for Seattle has been taken down and word is that the person who tweeted it is not with Sanders or BLM.

[Hydra]

65. Jack wasn't referring to BLM

He was referring to a specific contingent here in DU that puts up new wallpaper every time their candidate needs a better looking background.

[merrily]

68. I misunderstood. Thank you.

[HFRN]

29. as much as I distrust Hillary, and question much of BLM, I take twitter

with one complete grain of salt

[bbgrunt]

31. agreed. Assuming that Hillary is the source would

be a double win for the Koch crowd. This is a political tactic, but who it belongs to is too deep for me to fathom......and it's near impossible to verify the motives of people on twitter or any social media.

[winter is coming]

41. True, and I don't think BLM acts as a monolithic entity.

That doesn't mean there aren't people within BLM working their own agendas, which may run counter to BLM's goals.

I think today's protesters were hoping to get some damaging video and stir up bad feeling between white progressives and BLM. That doesn't further BLM's agenda in the slightest.

[merrily]

51. What happened in Netroots Nation and Seattle happened in person, not on twitter.

[Doctor_J]

64. I don't really care if her campaign is behind it

Her candidacy has attracted some vile people with whom I won't associate myself. They don't call themselves pumas this time, but that's what they are

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

34. The banner on this person's Twitter is anti-Hillary

So how are you drawing the conclusion she supports her?

[TexasBushwhacker]

73. I noticed that too BUT

currently her tweets and retweets are supportive of BLM shutting Bernie down.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

77. And?

I mean, I know where you're obviously going with this....but maybe, just maybe this is an example of why your thinking is off.

And before you jump to your next conclusion, I have not decided who to support in the primary, and I'm deeply upset with what happened yesterday.

[Duppers]

40. This is getting too damn nasty! nt

[merrily]

56. Getting? Where have you been?

[Joe Shlabotnik]

44. What a fucked up twitter account.

Last edited Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:52 AM - Edit history (1)

And I am a radical. So much hate, so much chaos, so little strategy, just pure emotion and outrage.

Fred Hampton murdered anew each day, trampled in the dust and forgotten.

[IMG][/IMG]

[watrwefitinfor]

59. +1 . . . Fred Hampton must never be forgotten.

Nor the lessons of the destruction of the BPP.
Thank you, Joe.

"Fred Hampton murdered anew each day, trampled in the dust and forgotten."

And I am a radical, too.

Wat

[jtuck004]

49. "a BlackLivesMatter protester/supporter." < Not in this capacity - is an operative for Mrs. Clinton.

Which makes her a traitor, spy, cheat, and a liar.

Seems well qualified.

[aspirant]

57. What happens

if a Third Shoutdown of only Bernie occurs?

[questionseverything]

79. we keep working harder

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017285229

[riversedge]

58. Gloretired mentioned in your op is a BernieSanders fan.......

Looking over her//his tweets--it is very much an activist.. but certainly not a Hillary supporter. In ready her/his posts, it seems to be very frustrasted/angry/upset that little is being done to prevent black lives from dying and little justice is done.


I will only post a few-indicating her support for Bernie-- but there are many.



Gloria Marion ?@Gloretired 11h11 hours ago

I support @BernieSanders, I support #BlackLivesMatter ,more than both I support your right to disrupt anywhere, anytime! #BlackLivesMatter

..............................


Gloria Marion ?@Gloretired 10h10 hours ago

Gloria Marion retweeted BrownBlaze

Whatever it takes..

Gloria Marion added,
BrownBlaze @brownblaze
Here is the official statement from #BlackLivesMatter Seattle activists that took over @BernieSanders event today: https://m.facebook.com/BLMSeattle/posts/716844418437393?fref=nf …


...................................
And Gloretired Retweeted this lovely Bernie art tweet:


Gloria Marion retweeted
Louisiana for Bernie ?@LouisianaBernie 21h21 hours ago

Follow #BernTheBlock hashtag for cool Bernie sidewalk art across USA today! @CajunsForBernie are taking on Lafayette!
Embedded image permalink

[Triana]

67. Supports Sanders but also supports 'take over the rally from him' behavior.

Not buying that. WHO does that help?

It's true Obama was heckled and protested on the campaign trail but the activists NEVER REFUSED to give the stage/mic back to him ie: took over the entire rally.

If BLM is so utterly disgusted w/ Sanders, they've only to support/vote for someone else. O'Malley for instance: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251504574

Why protest Sanders. And ONLY Sanders? Everytime I ask that question, I get crickets....

Something rotten about that.

[riversedge]

69. I really do not know but he is

considered the most progressive by many which may be a factor and I think IMO their expectations are higher than they are for the other candidates. And the blm movement (the activists who interrupted Bernie's speech) say Bernie has not done enough-has not responded to them enough {see their facebook page}.

And there is the factor-as others have pointed out-- that Hillary has secret service agents surrounding her (? how many). Messing with Federal agents --I think--would carry more severe penalties (fines, jail time -whatever)

Another factor is that Sanders plans for larger crowds and can most likely get more media attention (which they do get much to the dismay of many Sanders (and BLM ) supporters.

This is all speculation of course but may factor into why they only interrupt Sanders speeches. In the end we need answers from those who actually do the interruptions (as to why they only target Sanders).

[smokey nj]

85. This group is for supporters of Bernie Sanders.

[PowerToThePeople]

75. He IS the enemy, of the Oligarchs.

I do not feel the event shutdown hurt his campaign one bit.

I think we let this go and continue on.

#FeelTheBern

[restorefreedom]

81. these women have nothing to do with blm imo

they look like radical disruptors who have been attained by either the dnc or the koch bros. the fact that they are black gave them a convenient cover. they are looking more and more to be paid disruptors.

good thing it is gonna backfire and further strengthen bernie

[glinda]

86. Wish some wealthy person would step up and pay for security for him.

[eridani]

88. Well, I'd rephrase that. Someone who claims to be, etc.

Remember--on the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.