we are entering bizaro world

[Robbins]

they are expecting us to believe Clinton has 41 point lead In Iowa If that was true why was the excitement at Iowa's JJ
dinner with bernie.apart from so called polls i am not seeing any evidance people are excited by her.if they were she would be
ranking in small donors.she would be packing in the crowds.

But,then again you have liberals who claim to support unions and working class and who opposed TPP endorsing Clintons a corporist
and centerist.some might think I am too harsh but i consider those like al franken and sherrod brown total sellouts for what they
supposily believe by supporting Clinton.

after hearing Obama,Reid,and Pelosi have sold out disabled americals and older americans but increased defense spending
I am not in the mood for the BS anymore.

I consider the Bernie VS Clinton battle to be last attempt for democracy as well for liberals and progressives In Democratic party.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Yes we are, and it's very disheartening.

Sherrod Brown's endorsement has really set me back. How could he?

I feel sick.

[n2doc]

4. Courage

1. Do you really believe that we could go from statistically tied to a 41 point deficit in one week? I don't.
2. Brown is a politician, and HRC and the DNC have been tightening the screws on fellow democrats. I again don't think it matters much. Lots of people endorsed HRC last time, before BHO became the frontrunner.
3. The election will be won or lost on turnout. If Bernie supporters are enthused enough to turn out in greater number than HRC supporters, then he will win. Right now you are seeing a concerted effort from many groups to marginalize Bernie. Don't fall for it.

[Autumn]

5. Peggy, of course he will endorse who he believes is in the best position

to win the White House. Would you expect less of an elected democrat wanting to hold the White House? Senate endorsements are not binding. The Senators may endorse her and the media has her as the front runner, but the people are excited for Bernie. The endorsement of the voters in the primaries is all that matters.

[SoapBox]

16. I still think...

That in the event (yuck) that she becomes the nominee (by hook or by crook...mostly crook) that she will lose.

I absolutely feel that the hate of her is very, very deep and totally underestimated.

And then there is that trust thing.

[Ed Suspicious]

6. I just wish the would hold off on the endorsements.

I don't understand the rush to endorse this far out.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. Me neither...but it is their right to make poor choices.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[arcane1]

9. All that Super-PAC money she's raising can be used for, or against, other Dems.

Something to keep in mind. It may be, in some cases, a simple matter of self-defense, and a desire to avoid having a well-funded primary challenger when re-election time comes.

[aspirant]

12. Self defense = cowards

I think this is enlightening to expose people for their true colors.

Bernie is telling the truth and the pretenders are making backroom deals

I say bring it on so we can clean out this party from the inside

[hifiguy]

30. The ruthlessness and truthlessness of the Clintons

is established beyond any question.

And those hundreds of millions would assuredly be used to punish the outliers. That's the way they roll.

The only principle either one of them has ever had is self-advancement by any available means, be they fair or foul. Extremely reminiscent of this guy..... and in so very many ways

[Fawke Em]

13. His wife, Connie Shultz.

You should see her fawn on Facebook over Clinton.

Which reminds me...



OK. I just unfollowed her. You'd think she and Sherrod would be better than that.

[SoapBox]

14. Isn't that interesting.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

20. I'd read that she likes Hillary. I can almost understand her POV, but Sherrod?

Not so much.

[n2doc]

3. Last week they were tied

I don't believe anything that has that sort of fluctuation. People don't changed their minds en masse without some sort of huge event. The Behghazi hearings weren't that big a deal for most people.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

7. Polls say that anyone who pays attention to polls a year ahead of the election

are wasting their breath.

[merrily]

17. This is a primary poll, though. It's still early, but I think the first caucus is at the end of Jan.

[n8dogg83]

8. Well, as i have said before: polls this far out from an election are unreliable....

especially considering how much of an outlier this particular poll is compared to others showing a much closer race. Looking at the methodology of this poll, they only polled registered democrats who have voted in at least the last two primary caucuses. I think this shows an inherent bias to Hillary, as Bernie's main appeal is to those who have previously not been involved in the process or may be first time voters. This poll (and most other polls) don't reflect the new voters that will (hopefully) come out on election day. Don't let this get you guys down. This is a marathon, not a sprint.

[jwirr]

10. I do not believe the polls. In a caucus state polls do not tell

us much.

[mhatrw]

15. This is their first poll. Poll trends are what matter.

One poll does not show a trend. And the methodology skewed the poll to exclude new voters.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. First of all,

that poll is complete bullshit. There's no way in hell Hillary is ahead in Iowa. Or if she is, she's barely ahead.

The CORPORATE OWNED MSM are in the midst of a brainwash game. They flood OUR airwaves with 24/7 Hillary propaganda, their Corporate Owned pollsters will make damn sure they poll demographics that favor Hillary, their online writers will shill for Hillary and everyone in the country, except people who know the truth, will start thinking Hillary is inevitable, do why campaign or vote for Bernie? MOST pollsters are corporate owned. The Only polls I will trust will be Bernie's when he starts polling. I see he hired a pollster. THAT will be the poll to trust. When Bernie says he's losing, I'll believe him and only him - because he's honest.

I can honestly say, I have not met any Hillary supporters or seen ANY, not one, Hillary bumper sticker.

As for all the Congressional endorsements, I see Bill Clinton sitting in his easy chair working the phones and making sure people in Congress endorse his wife.

Sherrod Brown - HE pissed me off. Shame on him. He just lost my respect. He's one of very few people in Congress I actually liked.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Robbins]

19. Today is another pile on day by Clinton supporters

gleefully posting all the news on polls and endorsement wanting to discourage all Bernie supports into thinking race is over.

I have had it with Dem establishment

1:I live in Missouri so last year after ferguson i have seen how useless dems can be.
2:TPP Is very fresh In my mind.Obama and dems have sold out all the unions that worked to get them elected
3:Obama has proved 100% myself and everyone who supported him in 2007/2008 were idiots.we are going to be in more war than we were when w was president
4 ems sold out disabled and seniors on the budget to get more defense spending

My attitude Is "Enough Is Enough!"

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. The sad thing is

Union leaders still endorse Hillary over the wishes of workers and over a man who has supported Unions his entire life! A man who actually DOES put on his 'Comfortable shoes' and walks the talk in picket lines! To me, that says a lot. The Democratic Party has sold out Unions, yet the Union bosses endorse a Clinton after NAFTA lost this country 60,000 factories and millions of jobs? Something is very wrong. And now Obama's TPP! It's even worse! And Hillary supports it!

The Hillary supporters in GDP are just playing their childish mind games. When Bernie's up in the polls, we'll get even.

I gave up on Obama the first time he offered up SS as a bargaining chip. He warned us. He said he was was more like Reagan fiscally. Now everyone knows he sold out The least of these' and SHAME ON HIM.

THE TPP must have made him some BIG BUCKS for his retirement years. That will be his legacy, so I guess big bucks are more important than an impressive Legacy. I know I will never defend him ever again.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Robbins]

22. well

I consider any union who supports Clinton over bernie stupid.

What they are doing is proving republicans right when they calimed unions were corrupt.She has even opened door to flipping back
on TPP.But,anyone who has followed clintons for past 23 years know it wasn't beliable for her to be against TPP.

Obama has sold out so much he isn't worth discussioning anymore.Since I was born In 1974 i can start to understand how dems
In 1967 felt about Johnson.

[hifiguy]

31. They endorsed Bubba

who threw them under the train the second after he was sworn in.

Then they endorsed Obama, who took 90 days or so to throw them under the train. Sooner, if you justifiably regard appointing a shitweasel privatizer like Arne Duncan, as the biggest FU possible to the teacher's unions.

HRH will dump them the day after the election, if she wins.

They're either paid off/bribed or are dumber than a sack of doorknobs.

Which, I can't decide.

[AzDar]

23. This recent spate of polls beggars belief... the exact opposite of what I see and hear daily.

We'll see. Personally, I think the sHillary backers are in for a big, unpleasant surprise.

[hedda_foil]

24. What the he'll is going on? 3 different polls dropping today.with virtually identical results?

It's more than a little bizarre, Yes, Joe announced he's not running so Hillary picked up his vote and the Benghazigate hearing was a win for her. She's had a great week, but that massive a shift in a week boggles the mind.

[Major Hogwash]

25. About those polls . . .

. . . they're being touted by the mainstream media.

The same mainstream media that told us there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
The same mainstream media that ignored Bernie's campaign until the first debate was held last week.
The same mainstream media that takes Trump seriously as a candidate for the White House.

[hifiguy]

29. Wish I could rec your post a thousand times, Major.

[Enthusiast]

34. Huge +1!

[bkkyosemite]

27. I believe money talks and polls can be rigged

[hifiguy]

28. They really need to stop huffing

that hallucinogenic Bat-gas.

We genuine liberals/lefties were had, snookered, cheated, chumped and pantsed in the middle of the schoolyard by both Bubba and Obama. THAT was the thanks we got for giving them our votes.

Bernie is the last train out of Dodge, and we all know it.

We won't get fooled again!

RIP Ox and Moony

Yes, Entwistle is turned up in this one. I'm a bass guitarist, so sue me.

[Enthusiast]

33. Entwistle is my current favorite bass player.

Moon is also fucking extraordinary.

[Enthusiast]

32. I am very disappointed in Al Franken and Sherrod Brown.

I agree with you about the Bernie VS Clinton battle to be last attempt for democracy as well for liberals and progressives In Democratic party.

I cannot believe so many do not recognize this.

[hifiguy]

37. in a way it's understandable, though.

Getting on the wrong side of the Clinton Machine is much like getting on the wrong side of Vito Corleone.

[Enthusiast]

38. No doubt you would make a lifelong enemy.

[Robbins]

39. Well

the clintons are like mafiosi or nixon is they have long memory.Clintons during obama years would only offer support if they had
supported her in 2008.

Still regretable that those who fought against tpp would back clinton although if public defeats Clinton In primarys Brown is one
who would support Bernie in GE against trump or carson.

[hifiguy]

40. HRH shares so many traits with Nixon

the laundry list could run for pages.

The massive sentiment of entitlement and "desert" to the office, the paranoia, the inability to answer the simplest question with a straight answer, the constantly shifting issue positions, the opportunism, the rigging of party machinery, the willingness to say absolutely ANYTHING to advance their position regardless of the truth or consequences and the willingness to use any means, fair or foul, to advance themselves and crush their enemies.

I am to the point where I am ashamed that I voted for Bubba twice, and I will NEVER vote for HRH. Their ruthlessness, truthlessness and sheer meanness are matters of longstanding, exhaustively documented record.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

41. +1 n/t

[KoKo]

42. ...!

[Enthusiast]

35. Kicked and recommended to the Max!

[mmonk]

36. It's not our last attempt for democracy.

This battle will keep going on no matter what.