Debate watch thread! Join me!

[retrowire]

Be wary though, the media just described Bernie as "drawing nearly as large crowds as everyone else" even though it's an irrefutable fact that he's drawn the largest of anyone.

Let's enjoy! *drinks heavily*

[cantbeserious]

1. Cokie Roberts - God Save Me

eom

[restorefreedom]

8. ugh. nt

[NV Whino]

9. Indeed.

[840high]

113. yuck

[Duval]

398. Ewwwwww

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[polichick]

2. I've got watermelon popsicles and popcorn...

but there's liquor in the kitchen if I need it!

[daleanime]

24. Get it chilled if that's the way you like it....

it will be necessary.

[polichick]

28. Really wish I had a joint!

[Leftyforever]

59. come to Oregon... we have plenty..

[polichick]

64. Thanks! :)

[NV Whino]

3. Gawd I hate network TV

Is this ever going to start.

[retrowire]

5. supposedly in 20 mins? nt

[retrowire]

4. A 20 supposed minutes until it begins!

Anyone elses stream acting funny?

So far within 20 minutes, the media only keeps showing off Hillary watch parties. Haven't seen a Bernie one yet.

Hmmmm...

[femmedem]

13. My streaming audio was having problems initially. Seems better now. n/t

[zentrum]

291. Yes, that ...

…was disturbing and transparent. Rather than go to the Bernie or Martin supporters, they even spent some time on an empty Hilary support room that had only posters covered with her name.

[femmedem]

6. Ha! Yes, I caught that "nearly as large crowds..."

They're shameless. I think tonight I'll choose to laugh instead of getting angry.

[MissDeeds]

7. So what's the word for the drinking game?

9/11?

Go get 'em Bernie. We're with you 100%!

[retrowire]

11. Can it be a sentence?

"I am a woman."

[fleur-de-lisa]

17. LOL! Good one!

I have my vat of wine and I'm ready to go!

FEEL THE BERN!

[MissDeeds]

18. And I was on 9/11!

[femmedem]

99. We all should have gone with "I have a plan." n/t

[MissDeeds]

108. I'd be drunk by now

[tblue37]

329. "Number one...." or "I have a three-part plan. Number one...." nt

[NowSam]

10. Calm. Expected the bias.

Thanks for the thread. Good to watch together.

[restorefreedom]

14. interesting that there is no thread in gdp

or in clinton group..hmmmmm...they not interested in discussing the debate?

wonder why?

[retrowire]

16. It's because they likely aren't actually interested in politics.

Maybe this website is just a game to them?

[restorefreedom]

22. could be...i get the sense

that many are pretty well off, some have even said so

guess income inequality and such are not as important to some..what i don't get thoughh is their stance on war. unless they stand to directly benefit from military spending, why?

[CoffeeCat]

408. Exactly.

It's quite obvious.

[MrMickeysMom]

320. I see less and less there...

Perhaps it's the fact that I have so many from there on "ignore"

[restorefreedom]

413. me too....much more peaceful that way. nt

[SmittynMo]

15. This is the Democratic Party debate.

It's OUR time. So why in the hell are they talking about republicants?

[retrowire]

20. BEcause MONEYYYYY nt

[TheProgressive]

19. Fuck ABC - they are talking about Republicans and not our candidates...

Tell me ABC and all media is in the tank for republicans including Clinton...

I can't wait for Sanders to be our President.

[retrowire]

21. BUT MONEY THO lol smh

Omg they're defending republicans during this democratic debate.

Shove a hot iron in my fucking eye.

[MissDeeds]

23. So glad we're watching this together

with our own thread in the Bernie group!

Cheers!

[retrowire]

26. Cheers! nt

[Lazy Daisy]

110. skal

got the Jameson's and gingerale ready

[SoLeftIAmRight]

25. WTF

clips of pugs bashing hillary

more talk about pug views

damn the whole setup is about pugs

WTF

[retrowire]

27. Actually, if this WERE about Pugs

I would be in love right now.

I'm talking about the adorable dog.

This republican shit is infuriating.

[NJCher]

120. pugs! Not pubs!

Or better yet--pugs in pubs?




Cher

[MissDeeds]

124. Awwww

That's a cutie!

[Fawke Em]

158. I literally just saw this on Twitter a few minutes ago.

[haikugal]

169. Oh gawd, not fair!

[ViseGrip]

29. Only quoting Hillarys numbers against the pubs. Don't say Berrnie's numbers are higher against pubs

But we know the media would do this.

Guy says Bernie is doing so well and George Step goes right back to Data-gate.

Fuck you George! Your bias is on paper and that's why you can't moderate. Damn, this deserves it's own thread!

[polichick]

30. Love that they have a group of young voters there.

[NV Whino]

31. FU Cokie!

[MissDeeds]

38. And Donna too

Carrying water for HRC. God, I need something stronger than wine and it hasn't even started yet.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

39. I am sure her father is rolling in his grave

yep - fuck cokie

[Melissa G]

40. Donna B is just as Bad!!!

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DNC BS!!!

[polichick]

32. Donna Brazile, another friend o' Clinton.

[NV Whino]

33. Oh, now we have "tried to destroy the data."

Heaven help me.

[retrowire]

37. Yeah my mind is pretty much blown right now lmao nt

[cui bono]

415. Who said that? Mod or Hillary? n/t

[notadmblnd]

34. any network other than ABC?

I really don't like Donna Brazille and Cookie Roberts

[ViseGrip]

35. Fuck you Brazille! Not a mention of a vendor error! only a serious breach and he's got trust issue

Unbelievable. If this is how OUR party is going to handle this, with continued lies...I'm done after this election with being a dem. DONE.

[cui bono]

416. Wow. That sure gives credence to the idea that this whole thing was a set up.

The timing is very suspicious and convenient and is being taken advantage of in such a partisan way as to seem premeditated.

.

[retrowire]

36. Did they just say Bernie's campaign took the data and tried to destroy it?

Are my ears lying to me? uhhh

[MissDeeds]

44. Yup

Total orchestrated smear.

[polichick]

51. The Clinton Machine at work.

[Rebkeh]

41. I don't drink but

I may start.

There's a reason I don't watch politics on network tv.

[NV Whino]

52. I'm only watching tonight because I'm dog sitting

And there is reception. I may go spend some quality time with the dog. (Note: I'm really a cat person, too. )

[Rebkeh]

396. Either will do

The pre debate conversation was disgusting.

[Luminous Animal]

42. I guess there are no Sanders or O'Malley watch parties.

[demwing]

43. Any Other source to watch?

neither of my systems can overcome ABC's crappy, skipping "stream"

[restorefreedom]

75. young turks

tytnetwork.com click live

audio only

[demwing]

143. watching it now

thanks!

[restorefreedom]

146. :) nt

[retrowire]

45. Oh look, another Hillary party.

That's 3 Hillary watch parties and no Bernie parties.

Wonder why...

[pangaia]

46. Oh well, I did it. I turned on the DEEEBAATEEE!!

My dinner guests just left...

At 8:23.
5 talking heads in the "Your debate today" show, sort of like The NFL Today
Before a Packers/Bears game... ear pieces feeding info and lines..

George, Donna and a few others...

Women's kick boxing is also on...

[NowSam]

47. media is such a sham

Reminds me of Stanley Tucci in Hunger Games.

[SamKnause]

48. I wish Amy Goodman,

Juan Gonzalez,

Jeremy Scahill,

and

Matt Taibbi were the moderators.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

84. I live in your dream world

thanks

[haikugal]

179. That would be so awesome.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

214. Yes - terrorism is bad bla bla bla

Reality - our own police have killed more of us in the last twenty
Terrorism is a problem we will deal with

Sanders is correct - Jobs - healthcare - banking - ENVIRONMENT
These are the issues that will have more direct impact on us


WAR WAR WAR - it is not the answer - It is not even the most important question

[senz]

218. Elect Bernie. Break up the media monopoly. Open up the people's airwaves.

[historylovr]

49. Ugh. So much biased commentary.

[Rebkeh]

61. Yes.

It's making me nauseous.

[Bjornsdotter]

50. Pretty tired of hearing....

.....that Bernie only attracts the under 35 crowd.

So, so sorry I'm 55 and my parents are in their late 70's.....all Bernie supporters. My social group also 55+ and all for Bernie. I feel as if my demographic group is being ignored. Female over 50 and we need to counted.

[Fawke Em]

173. I'm female and 45.

I'll be 46 next month.

I'm also a parent, a Southerner and solidly middle class.

You'd think I'd be a shoe-in for Hillary, but her triangulation has made me very sour toward her.

[Roland99]

220. Male and 49 here

#FeelTheBern

[tblue37]

337. Female, 65--Bernie supporter here. nt

[dgibby]

338. I'm 70, as are most of my friends.

We're for Bernie. Are they pulling these #'s out of places where the sun doesn't shine?

[Rebkeh]

399. Two 44 year olds here n/t

[lob1]

53. MSNBC isn't even covering it. That really stinks!

[restorefreedom]

54. don't forget, the young turks are covering it too

tytnetwork.com click live

audio only though

[cantbeserious]

55. Live Stream Useless - No TV - Going To Bed

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[restorefreedom]

57. gomto the young turks

you can hear the audio plus their commentsry is grest

tytnetwork.com

click watch live

[cantbeserious]

60. Thank You For Sharing

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[restorefreedom]

65. most welcome nt

[Awknid]

56. Does Hillary have on a blanket?

It might be my TV picture.

[MissDeeds]

62. Looks like a coat

Hope she feels the Bern in that heavy frock.

[glinda]

63. Chanel v burlap?

[wilsonbooks]

79. LOL No it is not your tv.

[blondie58]

374. It looks like an oversized sweater

And I think it was the Problem When she came to the Stage Late- After Going to the bathroom?
It might not have Been too easy.

[NV Whino]

58. Did I just hear a flip... Or was it a flop?

HRC no ground war.

[Nictuku]

66. I tuned in late

... at 5:35 (PT), how much of the actual debate have I missed? 10 minutes? Or did it start on time at 5:00 ?

[NV Whino]

72. No.

It's 5:35 and they're still in opening statements.

[Nictuku]

76. Thank you!

I guess I missed Hillary's Opening, got the end of Martin's, all of Bernies. I'm good to go!

[fleur-de-lisa]

78. Started right on the half hour mark.

You didn't miss much, just Hillary blathering the same old bullshit.

[NV Whino]

67. Billionaires with big mouths!

[antigop]

68. O'Malley: "Billionaires with big mouths." nt

[restorefreedom]

69. nice om opening

good applause too

[Luminous Animal]

70. O'Malley has elf ears

[historylovr]

290. My oldest said that too! LOL

[jwirr]

71. I'm here. I am already not happy after listening to the warm

up show. So let's go.

Yeah for Bernie. He handled it great. And he spiked her guns.

[femmedem]

73. O'Malley's opening statement was kick ass. n/t

[MissDeeds]

74. MOM went there!

Taking on the billionaires. He and Bernie could tag team HRH

[CharlotteVale]

80. Works for me!

[restorefreedom]

77. holy crap they went there! re data nt

[antigop]

81. right off the bat. nt

[restorefreedom]

83. holy fuck..bernie is getting into it! nt

[NV Whino]

82. DNC vendor

Good for Bernie!

[NV Whino]

85. Debbie's face!

[leftcoastmountains]

86. Oh no! he apologizes to Clinton

[restorefreedom]

90. that was dumb

but the truth will come out in court

[polichick]

98. Glad Bernie mentioned the emails.

[restorefreedom]

104. yes, he did well

but the apology, while nice, is unwarranted since they prob stole more of his info with help from dws

[CoffeeCat]

409. If the clinton campaign stole Bernie's info...

...that's good. Because now they know that he has more supporters than she does.

[1monster]

167. Took the wind right out of her sails!

[restorefreedom]

87. clinton ready to move on

hahahahahahaha

[MissDeeds]

94. Sure she is

[Luminous Animal]

97. Did she say she wanted an independent audit of the vendor from day one?

[restorefreedom]

100. of course not. she wants this gone. not gonna happen. nt

[Luminous Animal]

103. Thought so. My stream froze when she was talking.

[restorefreedom]

106. she tried to finesse it

wont work in court though. bs not gonna play there

[NV Whino]

88. Good for Hillary

And O'Malley.

[SmittynMo]

89. She didn't accept his apology.

She accepted his comment. OMG!!!!

[fleur-de-lisa]

91. Shocked! I thought HRC would be a shit about the data breach!

[cantbeserious]

95. Pretty Much Defangs All The Spin Meisters At DU

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[Bubzer]

96. Hillary “We’ve resolved your data”

[SoLeftIAmRight]

114. I would think that is the case

...

[cui bono]

417. "We've"? So is she admitting she's working with DWS?

I missed the debate, gonna have to watch it tomorrow while I do housework!

.

[Bubzer]

419. The part that got me was the emphasis on "your", as if it hadn't been the vendor's responsibility.

It's pretty clear in the contract that the vendor handles security....not the campaigns.

[cui bono]

420. Something stinks, that's for sure.

[antigop]

92. thank you, Martin O'Malley. nt

[NowSam]

93. Bernie is the best.

Candid. Honest. Real.

[jwirr]

168. The candidates are going to be furious when this is over.

They are cutting everyone out of the questions and telling them to wait.

[MissDeeds]

101. Oh freaking hell

O'Malley is trotting out 9/11

[leftcoastmountains]

102. O'Malley is killing it tonight!

I like the guy. If not for Bernie I would vote for him.

[fleur-de-lisa]

115. I like him too and he is my second choice . . .

but he seems a little off to me.

That 'bickering' comment was odd, and then '9-11'?

Weird.

[pennylane100]

139. Yes, I thought his remarks were really unnecessary

and his anger seemed a little forced. He has much bigger problems to worry about. He has to raise his poll numbers and this little rant does not seem like the best way to do that. I think he will get better as the debate goes on. But I think that Bernie will win the night. (I hope)

[ViseGrip]

105. BERNIE DID IT! HE EXPLAINED IT VERY VERY WELL TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. HE DID IT!

[NV Whino]

107. Bernie...

Specific solutions.

[liberalnarb]

109. Did Hillary just say she would go after africa?!

[SmittynMo]

111. Big difference

HRC - War hawk which is US led.

Bernie - Coalition of the Muslim nations.

[Bubzer]

112. Not sure I like O'Malley's push to increase intelligence.

It's pretty sizable and invasive already.

[historylovr]

123. Agreed. nt

[MissDeeds]

116. Bernie killed it on gun control

BTW, O'Malley just went off the rails.

[Luminous Animal]

119. He did. It was uncomfortable to watch.

[NowSam]

128. The stream keeps cutting out on my computer so Thank goodness there are so many debates

So I can really get to know these candidates and what they stand for.

I did hear Bernie's excellent statement on guns and part of Hillary's run out the clock attempt. O'Malley came out strong and then my sound cut so I missed it and Bernie reply.

[Bubzer]

117. O'Malley's on fire on gun control

[fleur-de-lisa]

121. And Bernie just smacked MOM down!

[Bubzer]

122. Hard!

[retrowire]

137. Yeah.

Well, Bernie is the bulldog of the senate. You ain't gonna get away with talking shit to his face.

[Fawke Em]

152. "Martin, have you ever been headbutted by an old guy from Brooklyn?"

[Rebkeh]

125. It really irritates me when they try to "unite

the party against republicans."

This is not the general election, we are supposed to be debating differences.

[femmedem]

126. Gah! I keep losing the stream.

Missed almost the whole gun control question.

[wilsonbooks]

132. Me too.

[NV Whino]

127. Why do they keep bringing up Trump?

[Bubzer]

129. Hillary's using the stick and carrot method....

She started out subtly attacking Bernie...now she's pushing for "unity".
It's actually quite clever.

[polichick]

133. Hillary is always clever.

[Bubzer]

145. Dishonest people are almost always clever.

[senz]

130. Martha Radditz has given little smiles to Hillary

and while Bernie got excited about the gun issue, they each giggled a little. Screw Radditz.

[MissDeeds]

131. F' me!!!

She just gave Bush credit! For what? Killing innocent people?

[billhicks76]

400. Be Fair

I know she is way too close to the Bush Family and their scheme but that was a message to Republicans that even their own leader didn't want to gin up hate against all Muslims. Granted it's because he's buddies with the corrupt .01% of the Arab countries and wants their despots families protected here.

[MissDeeds]

401. I am fair

"She's way too close to the Bush family." Case closed.

[billhicks76]

407. For Me Too

Im Bernie 100%. Her ties to the Bush Family are repugnant to me. They will always be considered evil by me in the realest sense of the word. Trump is scary in a new way though.

[GreenPartyVoter]

134. Hubby and I are watching.

[antigop]

135. HRC. STOP. BOBBING. YOUR. HEAD. God, it's annoying. nt

[MissDeeds]

150. A big time bobble head

Bernie was criticized on DU for waving his arms, but she's shadow boxing with every statement.

[NV Whino]

136. Is it my imagination

Or is Hillary Getty more time?

[historylovr]

164. It seems so to me as well.

[SmittynMo]

138. They shut Omalley down twice.

Unbelievable!!!!

I'd be really pissed if I was him. And of course, you shouldn't say anything about it.

[polichick]

141. It really seems unfair.

[antigop]

144. they need to let O'Malley talk more. nt

[fleur-de-lisa]

148. I don't think they are just shutting him down for the hell of it . . .

he keeps talking past his time limit and refusing to stop.

[antigop]

140. HRC: "I have a lot of confidence in our tech workers" -- sure you do...uh huh

just replace them with h-1b visaholders.

[restorefreedom]

149. ya beat me to it on the visas! nt

[Bubzer]

142. Hillary would give the keys to the encription kingdom to law enforcment. Wrong answer.

[earthside]

147. I love it when Bernie keeps it about me.

Number one -- my prosperity, my income, my health care, my family, our jobs, etc.

He is so good at staying on message, the message that matters to 80 percent of all Americans.

[polichick]

157. Definitely.

[rurallib]

151. was that 30 minute intro supposed to be a Hillary commercial

I was listening not watching. Seems that Bernie was referenced only in the negative. O'Malley was grudgingly mentioned once or twice.
All I could think was Stephie got his marching orders from Disney's CEO

[restorefreedom]

154. yup. i had to put it on mute. it was sooooo biased. nt

[Bubzer]

153. Hillary:increased vetting process...which takes 2 years to do....

umm, 2 years for people in an humanitarian crisis? WTF!

[NV Whino]

155. Hillary, that's exactly how they qualify the refugees now.

[RoccoR5955]

156. does the streaming suck, or is it me? n/t

[NV Whino]

161. Streaming sucks

They need to learn from Netflix.

I got a live connection tonight. Can't to streaming.

[dorkzilla]

162. it must, even retrowire has even given up...nt

[senz]

159. Very good point by O'Malley about accepting refugees.

[restorefreedom]

160. seriously? the mods have not heard of 911?

asking bernie why did he vote to go into afghanistan and no ground troops for isis?

stupid bitch moderator total set up

[MissDeeds]

163. WTH!!

Why is Martha Raddatz yelling at Bernie???? Jesus lady!!!

[Fawke Em]

165. Meh - Bernie got his position in on the next question.

[MissDeeds]

170. Yeah but it was still inappropriate

[polichick]

178. She's creeping me out!

[MissDeeds]

182. And what's with the clown makeup?

By her manner of questioning, I think she has an agenda.

[polichick]

188. I suspect she does too - or at least she has very strong opinions.

[retrowire]

171. Yeah she really did lol nt

[NV Whino]

166. Wait, what?

Afghanistan attacked us? Did I miss something?

[fleur-de-lisa]

175. And foreign policy is supposed to be her strong point?

[Bubzer]

172. Hillary ruled out combat forces... clarified she meant 10s of thousands of troops, but spec ops....

is fine.

Can we say slippery slope?

[NV Whino]

174. They are giving O'Malley so little time.

[retrowire]

177. I think they're trying to choke his campaign out...

[Bubzer]

176. Did O'Malley just equate diplomacy as being part of intelligence?

[Fawke Em]

180. Is it me, or is this debate kind of boring?

I guess because it's primarily been about ISIL.

I know they're a threat, but, honestly, I don't lay awake at night worrying about terrorism. Retirement, paying for my children's college, what would happen if I lost my job at my age, will my daughter ever earn the same as men when she grows up? Those have me far more worried than some imaginary terrorist at the mall.

[Bubzer]

183. +1

[NV Whino]

186. Yep

Wrong focus in my opinion.

[fleur-de-lisa]

189. Exactly . . .

I'm sick of the fear mongering shit. Talk about how you are going to help average Americans!

[Bubzer]

181. Hillary: Isis doesn't have aircraft, al qaeda doesn't have aircraft...but lets have a no fly zone

Uhhh.... what?

[virtualobserver]

187. she wants to start with the easy things

[questionseverything]

184. day after

[Fawke Em]

185. Wow! It just GOT interesting!

Loved Bernie's comment that Hillary likes regime change too much!



Guess I posted too soon.

It's always been my contention that she has a vast amount of foreign policy, but it's been mostly wrong.

[polichick]

191. Very interesting!

[Bubzer]

190. They've giving hillary hours to speak. WTF?

[Fawke Em]

192. Groan...

I'm tired of our young men and women being used to protect Israel.

Can't the billions we send them in war toys protect them?

[MissDeeds]

193. They are giving HRH more time than Bernie

Damn them! Screw the coronation!

[retrowire]

194. Yep.

Meh... Bernie will win this.

[MissDeeds]

201. Thanks retrowire

I needed that.

[Duval]

403. I did, too, MissDeeds!

[Fawke Em]

402. You know the pundits will say Hillary did. Ugh.

[dorkzilla]

202. Can you imagine how O’Malley must feel?

Not that he seems to have anything to say except “mmeeeeeeeeeee!” I like O’Malley but he isn’t looking so great tonight.

[MissDeeds]

221. Yes, I thought he was a stronger candidate for a VP slot until tonight

Still, he has been marginalized tonight which may be why he comes across as angry and a bit unfocused.

[dorkzilla]

226. more of a reason for him to be an adult when the camera is on him

He’s just looking petty and mean right now.

[fleur-de-lisa]

195. Bernie: "It is not Assad attacking the United States!"

"Let's get our priorities straight!"

[retrowire]

198. Yes! nt

[Fawke Em]

196. First MO'M came out beating his chest, now he's being an ageist?

Who peed in his Corn Flakes this morning?

[in_cog_ni_to]

209. That was just rude.

Shame on him. With age comes wisdom.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[SmittynMo]

197. Do you want a different generations perspective?

Low blow. He's pissed.

[polichick]

205. Is he that much younger?

[dorkzilla]

213. yeah that was a low blow...

He’s really being a pill tonight. Guess he figures he’s going to give it all he’s got, what has he got to lose?

[Bubzer]

199. O'Malley: Hilary was gleeful when Gaddafi was torn apart

[fleur-de-lisa]

223. I enjoyed MOM's last little speech . . .

he kicked some ass!

[Bubzer]

227. He sure did.

[restorefreedom]

200. om...clinton "gleeful" at destroying quaddafi wow! nt

[Bubzer]

203. Right?

[restorefreedom]

208. he nailed it. nt

[Bubzer]

211. Yup

[retrowire]

204. O'Malley got booed for the ageist comment. First boo of debate?

Damn O'Malley, you just sealed your fate.

Bernie was the first to get applause during speech about Isis.

[fleur-de-lisa]

215. That was the only boo I heard . . .

that ageist comment was not a smart move.

[NowSam]

206. O' says HRC was gleeful when taking out Dictators

Enjoyed that. Bernie is the BOSS.

[Awknid]

207. Hillary just cackles and cackles

Repulsive!

[Tab]

210. I'll take either

the difference between them and the GOP is like between adults and children.

[NV Whino]

212. US not the policeman of the world.

Right on.

[polichick]

216. Right on indeed!

[NV Whino]

217. Gawd, I haven't drunk this much wine in years

Probably good thing there are limited debates.

[virtualobserver]

222. no reduction in your typing skills yet

[NV Whino]

225. Lots of practice.

[restorefreedom]

219. income inequality coming up...bernies strength nt

[senz]

224. Something (red light? red carpet reflection?) is making Bernie's hands look red

when he raises them, so it's the palms. Very unnatural, not a good image.

[retrowire]

230. Adjust your set! lol just kidding.

I haven't noticed anything if that helps.

[Bubzer]

228. Hillary fashionably late….

[NV Whino]

234. I don't have a problem with this

The line is always longer at the "ladies."

[virtualobserver]

243. she was being fed some last minute one liners by cell phone

[senz]

229. Oh she's so coy...

[MissDeeds]

231. OMG

Hillary was late getting back from the loo. Doesn't look good for women, Hill.

[Lazy Daisy]

232. God help us

If we have to wait for her "potty break" in a catastrophe FFS a little respect to get back to the podium would be nice.

[Fawke Em]

236. One of the complaints I hear about her is that she is perpetually late.

That's usually a sign of a lack of respect.

[MissDeeds]

244. She was late getting back in the last debate, too.

The men can make it back in time but she can't? Okay...that's going to go over well.

[NV Whino]

233. Finally addressing issues that really affect us.

[retrowire]

235. I get the feeling that

the lead of the debate was supposed to be on foreign policy because that's hillary's strongest platform, and hopefully all the people at home will get tired and switch the channel before we see Bernie at his best on the other topics.

[Bubzer]

237. And she's back to try trying to run againt rupublicans rather than the pother debaters.

She's avoiding conflict with them

[Rebkeh]

247. Exactly,

It's a sleight of hand. She's really slick.

Can't fool all of us all of the time.

[Rebkeh]

238. Here we go again

"Unite" against republicans.

So sneaky, this is where she is so disingenuous.

[Fawke Em]

239. Seems Hillary's folks stacked the deck again.

And why don't they shut her up!!

They won't let Bernie or Martin go on and on and on.

[historylovr]

254. You said it.

This debate is turning into a Clinton infomercial.

[MissDeeds]

271. Yeah, they packed the audience

but didn't we know they would.? I know this isn't pc, but I cannot stand her. I really, really can't stand her.

[Fawke Em]

324. Me either.

I don't like her policies, but I have to admit, she just rubs me the wrong way. I find her condescending (much like her supporters here).

[MissDeeds]

332. Yep

Birds of a feather...

[Fawke Em]

240. I don't love you, Hillary.

In fact, I loathe you.

[retrowire]

242. ugh she's killin me nt

[MissDeeds]

278. I do too !!!!

There are few people I loathe, but she's won that distinction. I have a visceral reaction to her, pure loathing.

[NV Whino]

241. Is she reading notes?

She keeps bringing up GOP. Not now Hillary.

[antigop]

245. sorry, HRC, I can't "love" someone who thinks my job should be replaced by an h-1b visaholder.

[Bubzer]

246. Hillary: reign in political power used to feather the nest....

she's not exactly a good example of that

[lastone]

248. Anyone clocking time allowed per candidate?

They are giving Clinton more time by double at a minimum. Pathetic.

[NV Whino]

249. Nope, I think they won't!

[SmittynMo]

258. Best line of the night

[Bubzer]

250. Bernie: CEOs of corporate America may like hillary, they wont like me.

[fleur-de-lisa]

253. +1

[antigop]

259. [phone] nt

[Pharaoh]

264. ^^this^^

[senz]

286. That took courage.

[retrowire]

251. America, please don't be fooled by the damn trained politician again.

Please. We actually have Bernie for once.

[polichick]

252. Totally love Bernie on Wall Street and corporations!

[NJCher]

265. I laughed so hard

"No, I think they won't (love me)."



Cher

[polichick]

272. A great moment!

[NV Whino]

255. O'Malley is getting short shrift.

Sad,

[antigop]

256. no, O'Malley, we are not moving to "socialism". nt

[leftcoastmountains]

279. Yeah I took offense at that comment.

He had to throw that word in.

[Bubzer]

257. O'Malley: Hillary tried to hide her cozy relationship with wallstreet last debate

[antigop]

261. +100000

[fleur-de-lisa]

274. That was sweet!

[NV Whino]

260. Whoa! O'Malley, direct attack on Hillary.

[retrowire]

262. O'Malley is a blessing at times. nt

[fleur-de-lisa]

269. Yep, when the mods won't let Bernie speak

MOM takes a good swipe at HRC. He's had a few good ones tonight!

[historylovr]

263. Socialism, O'Malley? Really?

[liberalnarb]

268. I know!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128086248

[antigop]

266. no, Hillary. Your economy will not help us. nt

[NV Whino]

267. She keeps bringing up repubs

Stay on topic, Hillary. God knows, you're getting enough to time.

[retrowire]

273. Dat deflection tho. nt

[retrowire]

270. I'm sorry.

Hillary has a cackle. It is an evil cackle.

Oh god Hillary you have 2 hedge fund millionaires against you?! Whooptee doooooo

[NV Whino]

275. National health care! Come on Hillary

[Bubzer]

276. Credit to hillary for wanting to regulate insurance companies...

[Bubzer]

277. More credit to Bernie for bringing the conversation back to Singlepayer!!!!

[NV Whino]

280. Sanders, Medicare for all!

[Fawke Em]

281. Is this the Hillary debate?

Why won't the moderators SHUT HER UP?!

They keep cutting off MO'M and Bernie, but not HRH.

[retrowire]

282. Bernie is so much more interesting than her.

I get the feeling that most people would be put to sleep by her.

She's not exciting to most people. If she gathered passion in voters, she would win all online polls. But she doesn't.

And she won't tonight.

[NV Whino]

283. Sanders has specific solutions

He's not jus spouting rhetoric, has has solutions.

[restorefreedom]

285. om is getting screwed the worst. but yes hillary the most time and no cut offs. nt

[MissDeeds]

293. Maybe they are "benefactors" of the machine.

It will be interesting to see tomorrow the breakdown in the time allotted each candidate.

God I can't stand her.

[Duval]

404. I noticed. It ticked me off in the last debate, too.

Is ABC showing a bias here?

[polichick]

284. Bernie is all about what this gov't would do if it really was of, by and for the people.

[NV Whino]

287. Absolutely!

[Fawke Em]

288. There she goes means-testing again.

She's a bit dense.

[Bubzer]

289. Hillary: I don't believe in free tuition for everyone

[NJCher]

292. Bernie just nailed it on college costs

I've never heard anyone get all the points like he just did. This one, especially:

--Academic vice-presidents making huge salaries. A community college here in NJ has an academic vp and a president pulling down half a million EACH.

And he wants well-paid teachers.


Cher

[Fawke Em]

294. OK - she just lied.

That's NOT his plan.

[retrowire]

295. fuh my lifeeeee nt

[historylovr]

301. And Bernie's not taking it.

[Fawke Em]

313. #NowThisIsGettingToBeFun

https://twitter.com/politico/status/678411145766690816

[senz]

411. LOL, I love Bernie.

Totally natural. We should be so lucky to have him as our president. He would change everything just by being real.

[senz]

296. The candidates want to debate. The moderators want a Q & A.

[CoffeeCat]

410. Looks like the moderators were tasked with ensuring that...

...it didn't turn into a debate.

That's the last thing Hillary wants.

[senz]

412. Yes, everything has to be prepared and controlled for her.

Can you imagine that in a president? Probably the underlings would pretty much run things so as not to disturb the potus who would be like a figurehead. Sort of like the Bush II administration, actually, only her underlings would have to be obsequious and sycophantic. Or maybe Bill would run things.

May we be spared this. Please. It makes me sick.

[Lazy Daisy]

297. No middle class taxes increases

She sounds just like Bush

[fleur-de-lisa]

298. Boy, she would not shut up and that male mod . . .

just let her railroad him! Rein her ass in and let someone else speak FFS!

[Bubzer]

307. In all fairnes, he was trying to maintain control... she just kept talking no matter what he said.

[Rebkeh]

299. Okay, we really need to clarify what "middle class" means n/t

[historylovr]

316. +1. nt

[MissDeeds]

300. Oh there she goes

Trotting out her husband's coat tails.

Bite me.

[retrowire]

302. "NOW this is getting to be fun." :) nt

[Bubzer]

305. Heheheh

[retrowire]

308. ITS ONLY A DOLLAR AND 61 CENTS A WEEK HILLARY

Oh he got her SO good on that.

She tried to make it look like "BERNIES RAISING TAXES ON YOU LOOK!!"

And he was like, "You won't even tell them by how much. It's a dollar and 61 cents, and they'll all get free healthcare and free college."

Oh Hillary you failed there.

[Bubzer]

311. $1.61 a week is a hell of a lot better than $1.2k per month

[retrowire]

321. EXACTLY!!!!!!!!

I'm so mad at how the announcer returned from the commercials right now.

[NV Whino]

303. I do love O'Malley

If I weren't voting for Bernie, he would get my vote.

[retrowire]

306. If Bernie did not exist, then I would do the same.

I do like how most every single one of his points usually begins with "I've actually done this."

[senz]

310. I like him, too. He's my 2nd.

He comes across as considerate and soft-spoken and keeps several things balanced in his mind as he talks. Good quality.

But Bernie feels it in his gut. He really, really means it.

(Oh lord, an adorable ad about a miniature shetland pony shunned by all the big horses, alone in the pasture, so his owner put a huge pet door in and now he comes in and gets petted.)

[Fawke Em]

322. So cute!

[senz]

340. lol, you've got it!

[CharlotteVale]

341. Too cute for words!

Haven't heard that Cher song in awhile, LOL.

[retrowire]

304. It's a DOLLAR AND 61 CENTS A WEEK. TAKE THAT.

WOOOOOO!!!!

[fleur-de-lisa]

309. Here we go again, during the break

all the mods can talk about is Hillary, Hillary, Hillary.

[MissDeeds]

319. And the mods are giving her all kinds of time to talk

Yet they cut Bernie off. The fix is in.

[MissDeeds]

312. George is groveling at the feet of the anointed one

So much bias on the part of the talking heads tonight. It makes me sick.

[MrMickeysMom]

314. She sucks the oxygen on that stage...

Didn't her husband push through the "3 strikes and you're out" rule for law enforcement?

[Bubzer]

315. Hillary: We have to try and build trust with law enforcement...

P.S. don't look at my private prison donations.

[retrowire]

317. eww god that return from the commercials!!

WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF SPIN IS THAT

"We return to the debates where Bernie has apologized to Hillary about the data breach and Hillary has a plan for healthy care and Bernie wants to spend more! Let's watch!"

Fuck that spin! Fuck that spin! I'm furious right now.

[Fawke Em]

331. Thankfully, only a few people are watching thanks to Debbie's "stellar" debate scheudle. LOL

[Rebkeh]

318. Ummm, Baltimore?? Come on. N/t

[Bubzer]

323. 80 billion a year in private prisons... and Hillary's taking cut

[YOHABLO]

325. I do not like Martha Raddatz she's such a rah rah girl for the military.

[retrowire]

327. yeaaah nt

[MissDeeds]

342. It's so obvious

She actually yelled at Bernie about half an hour ago, but she's cooing and fawning all over HRH; not even a facade of impartiality.

[MrMickeysMom]

326. Police officers should not be shooting predominantly AA citizens...

He finally said what I wanted to hear... COMMUNITY POLICING.

This works far better.

[retrowire]

328. yep yep yep! nt

[Hepburn]

330. Wow...glad I found this...

...the Hillary people are really riled tonight. Had to put another one on IGNORE.

[Bubzer]

333. Bernie: Addiction is a disease, not a criminal activity!

YES!!!!!!!!

[NV Whino]

334. We need, we need, we need

Right. But, Hillary, what are your solutions?

[retrowire]

335. Wanna vote for Bernie in a "Who won the debate" poll?

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/12/19/democratic-presidential-debate-live-blog/

Scroll down to find it. Vote for Bernie.

[SoapBox]

347. Voted...Bernie at 41%

[fleur-de-lisa]

348. Bernie in the lead right now with 41%.

HRC at 33%.

MOM at 26%.

[senz]

363. Yay!

Go Bernie!

[cui bono]

418. Bernie 48% now!

Hillary 30

O'Malley 22

[Bubzer]

352. Voted

+1 for Bernie

[senz]

336. Bernie and Martin compliment their opponents. Haven't noticed Hillary doing it, though...

[historylovr]

343. Yes, I noticed that as well.

[senz]

359. It supports my overall opinion of her.

I dearly hope she doesn't get the nomination.

[historylovr]

373. It does, doesn't it. She seems to be gracious only when she has to be.

[senz]

381. It's all about her.

Kind of sad.

[historylovr]

339. Libya. This should be interesting.

[fleur-de-lisa]

344. Yes, but it would be nice if someone besides HRC got a chance to talk.

[historylovr]

346. Indeed.

[antigop]

354. they just let her go on and on. nt

[NV Whino]

345. Unintended consequences!

Right on!

[senz]

349. Check out O'Malley's beautiful elf ears.

I find them amazing and quite charming.

[MissDeeds]

350. It will be interesting to see what the breakdown of on air time is

Soooo sick of seeing HRH.

[Rebkeh]

351. Wtf kind of question is this???

Role of President's spouse???

Wha???

[historylovr]

355. Definitely a weird one.

[Bubzer]

356. Only solid hard-hitting material presented by ABC!!!!

[MissDeeds]

361. That's what I thought

Especially the cutsie softball Martha Raddatz threw Hillary about Bill's role.

BTW - Bernie could have done a lot better with his response. He could have praised his wife without saying "she's a lot smarter than me." Jeez Bernie.

[Bubzer]

353. Bernie : Thank you Hillary for redefining what being the First lady can mean

Way to be classy Bernie!

[Hulk]

357. All three look so sane when compared to the GOP circus

All three look so comfortable and deal with complex questions with semi-complex answers.

I could and will support anyone of these three people to lead my country. I would be so ashamed if a repub ever got close to being elected. Such buffoons!

[AuntPatsy]

364. I echo your sentiments

[Rebkeh]

368. The R's are not at the top of my list

of priorities yet. Next year is a long way off in terms of politics. A lifetime, almost.

I'm not interested in how bad they are, I'm interested in how good we can be.

[Hulk]

376. I couldn't care less what Jeb! thinks about anything...

I'm glad they waste time letting us know what the barking dogs have to say.

[Lazy Daisy]

358. Katie's gonna do whatever the hell she wants to do

You go Martin!

[senz]

360. Wasn't that sweet? He's a nice guy.

[retrowire]

362. Yeah that's a good answer too.

Hillary's "Uhh, He'll give me advice???" lmao

[AuntPatsy]

371. I agree, loved the response we ate not voting on spouses...silly question

[MissDeeds]

383. Great answer

I'm sure my husband would have said the same thing. He's a keeper.

[Bubzer]

365. Bernie: On our worst day, we have a lot more to offer than the right wing extremists

[senz]

366. Bernie is naturally gracious. Compliments the others.

[polichick]

370. Such a first-rate human being!

[polichick]

367. Reversing order and giving HRC the last word - first and last.

[historylovr]

379. Yep. You'd think they'd try a little harder to hide their bias.

[Fawke Em]

369. Whoever advised Hillary that she should bob her head (in agreement?) when

others are speaking should be smacked.

That is SO annoying!!

?w=1024

[polichick]

377. A tic?

[retrowire]

384. It's called stealing someone elses message.

If you stand there solid, you seem as if you have nothing to do with it.

If you nod, then you're taking the stage from them and bascially inferring "Me too! Me too! Me too!"

[polichick]

389. Yes, I think you're right.

[MissDeeds]

394. OMG! The bobble head!

[NV Whino]

372. Bernie, good closing.

[leftcoastmountains]

375. I'm done.

[Bubzer]

378. A'Malley's ending remarks started off very strong, then kind of went a little sideways.

[Bubzer]

380. Hillary: Fear the republicans...vote for me!

[Lazy Daisy]

382. Is she really

invoking the "you gotta vote for me because, you know, Republicans"? Pathetic

[Bubzer]

397. Yes she is. That was her focus the whole time actually.

[NV Whino]

385. Hillary keeps bring up the GOP

This is not the time. You are currently running against Sanders or O'Malley.

[Rebkeh]

386. Wait, is she aware

that Bernie polls better than she does against Republicans? What is she even talking about??

[historylovr]

387. OMG, quoting Star Wars is not going to give you cool points.

[Bubzer]

390. Sadly, she's going to win points for it.

[historylovr]

393. I know.

[NV Whino]

391. Hillary, may the farce be with you.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

414. I thought, "So we're ditching, 'God bless the United States?'"

[senz]

388. Boy aren't they deferential toward queenie-pooh.

[Bubzer]

392. Yes. Yes they are.

[Plucketeer]

405. Made me turn it off

Coronation - coordinated

[senz]

406. Shows what Bernie's up against.

What a mountain he has to climb. For us.

[NV Whino]

395. Okay, can't watch the post debate Hillary worship

I'm out of here.