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Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:16 AM Dec 2015

This guy would like to know how much we donate to other politicians.

Just thought I'd share the link so you all don't miss it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251931125

One good thing about the thread is that I don't have to wonder what it's like to have expendable income/wealth. I see that it gives you a much louder voice in politics. Maybe that's why they don't want Bernie. His policies might make me a bit better off. Then my voice gets louder and it competes with theirs. I think I'm figuring this thing out.

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This guy would like to know how much we donate to other politicians. (Original Post) Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 OP
I just posted on his thread. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #1
I risked one... catnhatnh Dec 2015 #5
I saw and you were pluperpolite. haha! Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #6
I'm just a high school drop-out catnhatnh Dec 2015 #7
A day seldom passes without him bragging about how much money he has, QC Dec 2015 #2
Yes - he reminds us often 840high Dec 2015 #9
That's new money behavior. QC Dec 2015 #10
I'm guessing he's a Wall Streeter - day trader, hedge fund... Fawke Em Dec 2015 #15
A transportation consultant, he says. n/t QC Dec 2015 #16
Is that code for black market smuggler or something? /nt Dragonfli Dec 2015 #18
Government worker at that. I think some think they are a lot richer than they are. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #19
His wife is. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #33
He's glaringly nouveau riche & desperately seeking status Divernan Dec 2015 #20
The guy is insufferable dorkzilla Dec 2015 #27
She has. He "married well". jeff47 Dec 2015 #32
I just read that thread Nite Owl Dec 2015 #3
I thought he was a she too - LiberalElite Dec 2015 #42
I just posted there. Lifelong Protester Dec 2015 #4
The classiest people make anonymous donations. Divernan Dec 2015 #21
I posted too. MuseRider Dec 2015 #8
Dudes got plenty of scratch to throw at people it looks like JackInGreen Dec 2015 #11
Yay! You're back! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #12
Thanks BMUS JackInGreen Dec 2015 #13
Just watch your back, man. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #14
Isn't that the pompous moneybags guy that brags about fancy fundraising dinners and salons? Dragonfli Dec 2015 #17
He's definitely NOT of superior breeding stock, i.e., old wealth. Divernan Dec 2015 #22
Perfect description dorkzilla Dec 2015 #28
Absolutely - they avoid flash (like the braggart's Maserati) Divernan Dec 2015 #31
Excellent dorkzilla Dec 2015 #34
In my next life, I'll be an Art History major & work at an auction house. Divernan Dec 2015 #36
yep! i am over there! dorkzilla Dec 2015 #39
I was being facetious, I don't believe in breeding, only character, my thoughts on his character Dragonfli Dec 2015 #37
I suspect he sacrifices to donate all that money, in search of validation. Divernan Dec 2015 #40
Here's a pic of that swell person: BeanMusical Dec 2015 #23
There is only one thing I'd like to tell this guy... mak3cats Dec 2015 #24
That post was very offensive. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #25
There's a reason why we're averaging under $30 a donation.... daleanime Dec 2015 #38
Yeahup..... daleanime Dec 2015 #26
I posted. Oops. F4lconF16 Dec 2015 #29
Beautiful! You spoke for a lot of people! Nt dorkzilla Dec 2015 #30
+1 darkangel218 Dec 2015 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2015 #41

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
1. I just posted on his thread.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:20 AM
Dec 2015

I don't have the words, without risking a jury decision, to tell you how I felt when I read his post smugly telling me that I should also donate to other candidates and causes beside.

Gosh, I'm just gonna get my tux out and go to the nearest fundraiser and drop a bunch of money, because I'm a regular philanthropist.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
5. I risked one...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:44 AM
Dec 2015

Not to the OP but to a later post denigrating those who couldn't spend as much.


I did it! I did it and I'm glad Bwaahhhahaha....

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
6. I saw and you were pluperpolite. haha!
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:53 AM
Dec 2015

No chance you get hidden.

(I had to look that word up. Nearly college educated and never came across that one before.)

QC

(26,371 posts)
2. A day seldom passes without him bragging about how much money he has,
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:29 AM
Dec 2015

and he can be quite clever when it comes to thinking of new ways to work it into the conversation.

It's just part of the rich human comedy that is GD: P.

QC

(26,371 posts)
10. That's new money behavior.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:03 AM
Dec 2015

People who were born into their wealth don't talk it it much.

They don't need to.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
15. I'm guessing he's a Wall Streeter - day trader, hedge fund...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:33 AM
Dec 2015

something where he earned a butt-load of new money off the backs of the proles.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
20. He's glaringly nouveau riche & desperately seeking status
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:11 AM
Dec 2015

Old money downplays their wealth. Social critic, Vance Packard provided a lot of the telltale behavioral differences between new and old wealth in his books, The Pyramid Climbers and The Status Seekers.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
27. The guy is insufferable
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 11:23 AM
Dec 2015

Invariably his replies to any posts are allllll about money.

I agree-old money would never be this vulgar about their assets.

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
3. I just read that thread
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:32 AM
Dec 2015

Always thought that he was a she. He has made other smug posts. I'm happy that he has the money and uses it to support dems but his empathy gene is broken. Many need the money to put food on the table and pay for heat etc. There are many good causes and I wish I could give to all of them.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
4. I just posted there.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:35 AM
Dec 2015

Sorry, but I thought listing all who one donates to is rude, and something I was not brought up to do.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
21. The classiest people make anonymous donations.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:13 AM
Dec 2015

Having enough self confidence and self worth to NOT wave their financial status around.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
8. I posted too.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:57 AM
Dec 2015

It is none of his business and I do not care who he has donated to or how much, it is none of my business. Did it make me feel badly about my own donations? Nope, because we do what we can.


Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
17. Isn't that the pompous moneybags guy that brags about fancy fundraising dinners and salons?
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:58 AM
Dec 2015

He runs with a very special crowd, the sort of people that count, superior to the working class filth that dress so shabbily they don't appear to know the value of a designer suit (or pantsuit).

I'd listen to him, he is of superior breeding stock, and as we all know, the value of one's voice and one's wisdom can be counted by the numbers in one's account and the accounts of one's peers.

Superiority has it's privileges and it's responsibilities (mainly the responsibility of lecturing the unwashed on what they should think and what they should be doing).

I am by definition a simple man of meager means., therefore a simpleton, the type of person that would post the following video for an outcast friend that never let the comforts of life affect the temperature of his heart which was always warm and caring, the object of many 2 minutes hate sessions. Named for a similar fellow in a book by Orwell

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For Manny:



For the Monopoly moneybags guy, an allegory for your whole pitch this primary summed up by Zappa:




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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
22. He's definitely NOT of superior breeding stock, i.e., old wealth.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:16 AM
Dec 2015

Old wealth is mortified at any conspicuous display of one's wealth. I've heard how old wealth describes people like the poster in question. The shorthand phrase is NOKD, which stands for Not Our Kind, Dear!

Social climbers can afford to join private clubs, but they never get asked to serve on boards of same. They swan into the dining rooms and try glad-handing people . . . are met with polite smiles but never asked to "sit down and join us". Why do you think this joker is at DU bragging? Can't find anyone else to hang out with.

As big donors, he & his wife may be invited to the gated estates for a HRC fundraiser, but they'll never be invited back for purely social functions. Probably a similar braggart on the golf course so doesn't have a regular foursome! Amiright, Verne?

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
28. Perfect description
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 11:38 AM
Dec 2015

Case in point, the Rockefeller family live a couple of miles away from me. Every Autumn they have a harvest fair and rummage sale at Union Church (well known for the wonderful Matisse and Chagall stained glass windows http://m.hudsonvalley.org/historic-sites/union-church-pocantico-hills) which they built. Anyway...so last fall I was at the rummage sale when I spied David Rockefeller (at an impressive 100 years old) shuffling around the white elephant tent and subsequently purchase a $3 vase.

Our buddy on the other thread would never be caught dead at a rummage sale (unless he knew a Rockefeller would be there).

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
31. Absolutely - they avoid flash (like the braggart's Maserati)
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 12:35 PM
Dec 2015

Vance Packard's study of the habits of really old money found that they served bowls of salted peanuts at their parties (as opposed to catered selections of elaborate hors d'oeuvres), furnished their vacation "cabins" with sturdy Ethan Allen pieces, and prided themselves on getting "value for the money". The women don't get new wardrobes every season, but rather wore simple, well-made styles (albeit Chanel) which they kept and wore for years.
"That's a nice color on you, Anne." "So kind of you to say - I got this 20 years ago in Paris."

My "Value for the Money" experience.

I lucked into spending an afternoon with some titled Brits at a race meeting in Kent. I took the train down from London to go to the races on a chilly March day. As a crowd of us walked from the train station to the racetrack, I politely asked one elderly gent (in a very lovely camel's hair topcoat) if he could tell me which was the Club House entrance. (You pay more for entrance than to the regular track, but the club area is heated, with a bar and comfy seats, along with big windows overlooking the race course.) He told me. I thanked him and went my solo way - always being careful not to be a pushy American. After watching a few races at trackside, I went indoors to warm up. He came up to me and said, "I've had a spot of luck. Can I buy you an ale?" I accepted, albeit ordered something non-alcoholic.

We talked briefly. He asked me what part of America I was from and how I happened to decide to come to the Kent races. Then I went back outside to watch more races. When next I came back inside, a lovely woman who looked and sounded like Diana Rigg, and her equally elegant husband came up to me and introduced themselves to me. "You must be Nancy, from Pittsburgh." There were about 30 "regulars" in the Club House and I was the only stranger, so they'd all asked Hugh who I was. They were so gracious to me, and we talked thoroughbreds and racing. At another point, "Diana" brought a man up and was waiting to introduce us until I finished talking to someone else.

Being an attorney trained to multitask my listening skills, I heard her describe me: "She's not your typical American. She's got balls!" (this because I had made a last minute, solo trip to London - only my second trip abroad, and enjoyed racing so much I had figured out how to get to the Kent races on my own). She introduced him to me as one of the trainers.

At the end of the afternoon, there were chauffered Bentleys and the like waiting to pick up these folks. The old fellow I'd initially met (whose wife wasn't there because she was at a board meeting for the Royal Ballet) turned down a proffered ride, saying he wanted to take the train back to make sure I got off to London all right (the train only stopped at the Folkestone station on race days.) He got off several stations before mine in London, and gave me a tip for a lovely little restaurant discreetly tucked into a back alley in the Covent Garden (theatre district) area. "Tell the maitre-d that Hugh and Inga sent you. He'll take good care of you. And it's good value for the money."

And I did go to that restaurant, after I went to a matinee of Miss Saigon, and I was taken care of by the maitre'd, and it was very good value for the money. It was really a great afternoon, and a great trip. But the only winner I had at the races that day was from my hunch bet on Jemimah Puddleduck - a character from the stories I used to read to my kids.

Oh, and p.s. - not a one of them ever bragged even remotely about their wealth or status. That, my friends, is class.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
34. Excellent
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:10 PM
Dec 2015

I’ve worked at both the big auction houses (you know, S and C) and a lot of my co-workers were old money, known names like Rockefellers and duPonts and the like. Anyway, apart from these old family names, you’d NEVER know they had any money but I also loved that I used to run into these colleagues on the subway or the bus which IMHO was really endearing. The only time they took cars was to get to the airport.

I don’t think most people get that this is how they really live.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
36. In my next life, I'll be an Art History major & work at an auction house.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:27 PM
Dec 2015

I'm sure it was hectic at times, but oh, the beautiful objets d'art with which you worked.

P.S. See you at Jackpine's? I describe it as where the (progressively) elite meet!

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
39. yep! i am over there!
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:55 PM
Dec 2015

working at Sothebys was the most incredible, fulfilling and happy time for me and i am priveldged to have worked there. i miss the business immensely. i spent some time with my former colleagues last week and they're really amazing people; no
ego, its all about the art. Christies...not so much.

in this life i want to eventually open a small mid-range auction house.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
37. I was being facetious, I don't believe in breeding, only character, my thoughts on his character
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:54 PM
Dec 2015

were that I felt he played the role to the wealthy whose club he so desperately wants to be in and whose approval he seeks so strongly was the role of Mary on the bus for the crew (as displayed in allegory via a song from Zappa's Joe's Garage).

A person from a poor industrialized town that was drawn to a famous and wealthy band and would trade every shred of dignity to be near it, trading one's soul and even body in direct service to the entry level celebrity satellites to the band (played by the stage crew) or in his case the thousand dollar a plate club and the campaign "crew" of his favorite band of wealthy players.

I agree with your assessment but displayed my sentiment in a coarse but apt manner.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
40. I suspect he sacrifices to donate all that money, in search of validation.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:01 PM
Dec 2015

And subconsciously realizes his checks haven't gained him any real friendship or personal relationships with those candidates or their handlers he donates to - so he's reduced to bragging and bullying on DU. Trying to convince himself that he is better/more important than everyone who has not donated as much as he has. It's the same mindset found in racism or sexism. "Well, I may be an impoverished, dull-witted loser by society's standards, but I'm still better than anyone who is not white." or starting one's day with the prayer, "Thank God I was not born a woman."

It's practically, mine is bigger than yours, referring to the total amount donated.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
24. There is only one thing I'd like to tell this guy...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:28 AM
Dec 2015

...it's one of the greatest lines ever - from the 1934 movie "It Happened One Night:"

Believe you me, you bore me to distraction!


NB: Lots of great lines in this movie - read for yourself:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0025316/quotes


CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
25. That post was very offensive.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 11:19 AM
Dec 2015

So many posters who donate to Bernie make it clear that it's money they can ill afford. How dare that poster question it?

Just disgusting.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
38. There's a reason why we're averaging under $30 a donation....
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:36 PM
Dec 2015

it's because that's all most can afford to give.

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