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Thu Dec 24, 2015, 01:49 PM

 

I have not forgotten the Clintons tried to take our belongings out of our White House when they left

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This is a BIG reason they have an 'integrity' problem with me. That episode was awful, and not forgotten by me. What were they thinking? They knew Bill would now be commanding 230 million a year in speeches, so why did they try to take our belongings? Did they really need those things? Gads. This is exactly what happened. I will also never believe they did not know better. I don't care about 'grey' areas. If I'm in a store, I don't even like to take an item if its' the last one. Just imagine the mindset to do this. And they didn't NEED any of it.

Remember this? History is taught for a reason. So it doesn't repeat itself, if not in the best interest of the people.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=121856

Clintons Return White House Furniture


Former President Clinton and his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, have sent $28,000 worth of household goods back to Washington after questions arose over whether the items were intended as personal gifts or donations to the White House.

“We have been informed that it is being shipped back, and the National Park Service is ready to receive it, take possession of it and take custody of it,” Jim McDaniel, the National Park Service’s liaison to the White House, said Wednesday.

“The property is being returned to government custody until such time that the issues can be resolved. It may well turn out that that property is rightly the personal property of the Clintons.”

Giving Back

After they were criticized for taking $190,000 worth of china, flatware, rugs, televisions, sofas and other gifts with them when they left, the Clintons announced last week that they would pay for $86,000 worth of gifts, or nearly half the amount.

Their latest decision to send back $28,000 in gifts brings to $114,000 the value of items the Clintons have either decided to pay for or return.

McDaniel discussed the matter Wednesday with Betty Monkman, the White House curator, and Gary Walters, the chief usher, or executive manager of the White House.

They were reviewing the gifts the Clintons chose to keep after $28,000 worth of items were found on a list of donations the Park Service received for the 1993 White House redecoration project. The Washington Post this week quoted three people who said that they assumed the furnishings they donated for the project would stay in the White House.

“As a result of questions about the status of certain property donated to the White House during the Clinton administration, the National Park Service will accept the return of the property in question and act as a custodian of such property,” according to a statement released by the Park Service, which administers the White House as a unit of the national park system.

A person familiar with the Clintons’ move out of the White House, who spoke on condition of anonymity, would say only: “They’ve been returned.”

Furniture Movers

While the Clintons’ decision to return these gifts was a way to get out from under this and other criticism surrounding their departure from the White House, the couple provided scant details about the shipment.

Mrs. Clinton’s office referred all questions about the gift return to the former president’s transition office. Transition office workers said the Clintons would make no statement. They referred all questions to the Park Service, which wasn’t exactly sure which gifts were being returned or where they had been kept.

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Reply I have not forgotten the Clintons tried to take our belongings out of our White House when they left (Original post)
ViseGrip Dec 2015 OP
TDale313 Dec 2015 #1
ViseGrip Dec 2015 #4
JackInGreen Dec 2015 #2
intheozone Dec 2015 #3
ViseGrip Dec 2015 #5
840high Dec 2015 #10
LyndaG Dec 2015 #6
ViseGrip Dec 2015 #9
FarPoint Dec 2015 #7
ViseGrip Dec 2015 #8
840high Dec 2015 #11
FarPoint Dec 2015 #16
hollysmom Dec 2015 #12
4139 Dec 2015 #13
TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #14
Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #15

Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 01:55 PM

1. So many substantive reasons to oppose her.

Frankly, for me, this is way down on the list. In fact, it sounds like something RW radio would be ranting about.

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:00 PM

4. There are many reasons out there and I don't like those reasons either. But people forget and this

 

is a character issue. So please kick to the greatest, cuz citizens are busy, and they forget.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 01:57 PM

2. I thought

This was disputed n debunked, but I stand corrected.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 01:58 PM

3. So because of confusion over "gifts" you would rather have one of the Republican candidates (Trump?)

in the White House for 4 years?

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Response to intheozone (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:01 PM

5. This is a primary.

 

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Response to intheozone (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:38 PM

10. Confusion? get real.

 

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:03 PM

6. Oh, brother

This charge has been investigated and found to be untrue. Even W said the Clintons didn't steal anything.

Do you really think she could be elected Senator, and confirmed as Sec. of State if she was a thief?

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Response to LyndaG (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:12 PM

9. It was all returned, no harm no foul. Again, I just have an integrity issue with them.

 

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:04 PM

7. Oh for crying out loud!

This is sooooo ridiculous..... I remember such false fodder from the incoming * bush Administration. So, I'll tag this thread under Trollish Misinformation.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:12 PM

8. Trolling? ABC is not acceptable?

 

I'm no troll. So please don't accuse me. this is an issue of integrity. long ago but yes, we the people are tired of this crap. I could also write about every time she is asked a serious question about death or war, or something she did that is questionable, she defends it with a laugh. I find that offensive. That is how she makes me feel. I am not the only one. So ignore it at your peril. I don't like republicans, but we do have a good candidate who is being blacked out. Is this the sanders group?

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:38 PM

11. You're not the only one.

 

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:54 PM

16. The information is false and you promote it.

That is the point of my post. Bernie Sanders would be the first to embrace my concern.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:45 PM

12. please, I don't think anyone needs to go there

there are the TPP and various political stands, that should be enough.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:46 PM

13. Have to be ready for what the Repug superpacs throw....

... This is fair game, just like the sniper is fair game.

Trump would use it

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:48 PM

14. While the number sounds high, many of those items were highly inflated for tax purposes.

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Others were special designer items that had arbitrary values set to them.

The confusion of moving out of a shared estate, especially when scores of people handle the goods coming in, leave and others handle the custodial tasks for them afterwards, it's easy to err, until an audit is performed.


(Now, I'm a neutral Democrat, and I don't take sides amongst the party, since I vote for any Dem nominee. I'll call it as I see it, but the goal is to get a Dem in the White House in 2016.)

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:51 PM

15. It becomes an addiction.

Some people will never be satisfied with what they have. They only want more, even when they already have enough for 10 lifetimes of a 1000 people.

Hillary want to be POTUS because it is MORE. It's another trinket of wealth to add to her hoard, nothing more.

Bernie 2016, because he wants to help the rest of us that have so little.

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