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Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:48 PM Jan 2016

Ahh. I can feel good about my '96 Escort now

Because of this:

"If they still sold cars with manual locks and windows, that's what Bernie would have," per Jane Sanders


from (of all places) a Food & Wine piece that quotes a People article, Neither of which do I regularly read, if ever. Bernie's showing up in unexpected places, he is.

My window used to be manual; now it's not because the handle came off. The lock is getting kind of touchy, too, especially in winter. I admit I had been feeling a little down about having a pretty blue Bernie sticker on my limping old bucket-a-bolts. But now I can rattle around town with my head held high.

So, thank you, Food & Wine, People, and Jane Sanders.

http://www.foodandwine.com/blogs/bernie-sanders-was-paleo-%E2%80%98-paleo-was-thing%E2%80%99
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Ahh. I can feel good about my '96 Escort now (Original Post) Mike__M Jan 2016 OP
I really dug the mileage I got on my old 90's-era Escort. villager Jan 2016 #1
My escort died last summer...after 17 years! HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #11
Yes a fellow Luddite exboyfil Jan 2016 #2
"....I had problems with." sarge43 Jan 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #9
Well, I won't criticize folks for liking "vintage" cars Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #3
True enough for safety Mike__M Jan 2016 #5
Great, Kelvin Mace Jan 2016 #12
Our '97 Ford Contour still gets 35+ mpg central scrutinizer Jan 2016 #4
I have yet to own a car with electric locks or windows tk2kewl Jan 2016 #7
I had an Escort back then. I forget the year. Cleita Jan 2016 #8
Depending on what she means by manual locks, SheilaT Jan 2016 #10
Built in Wayne Michigan safeinOhio Jan 2016 #13
Thank you, Local 900 Mike__M Jan 2016 #14
Like my Focus safeinOhio Jan 2016 #15
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. I really dug the mileage I got on my old 90's-era Escort.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jan 2016

Was somewhere well into the 30's on highways, as I recall. And high 20's/low 30's around town. And I miss a stick shift, too!

On the other hand, yes, the window handles did come off once or twice, and I had to endeavor to "re-attach" them. That car may have met its eventual end anyway, even if it hadn't been "fatally roughed up" in an L.A. intersection...

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
11. My escort died last summer...after 17 years!
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:21 PM
Jan 2016

I never thought I'd have a car for so long. And just before I gave up on it, it was still getting 32 mpg on the highway.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
2. Yes a fellow Luddite
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jan 2016

I love my 2002 Cavalier with manual windows and locks. The two vehicles that I have had with power windows and locks I had problems with. The three that I did not (including a 1995 Escort) did not.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
6. "....I had problems with."
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jan 2016

That's why I never had power windows and locks. When they crapped out (keep the car long enough and they will), it costs at least two limbs to get them fixed. Manual and my husband can fix.

Sanders has a wood stove in his VT home.

Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
3. Well, I won't criticize folks for liking "vintage" cars
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jan 2016

But I will point out that you are MUCH safer in newer car than a 20 year old car.

Also, they burn cleaner and are more fuel efficient.

Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
5. True enough for safety
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jan 2016

But my new health insurance premiums preclude any hope of taking on a car loan payment.
As for fuel efficiency, I an go almost as far on a gallon as my dad can in his Lincoln hybrid, which really surprised me.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. I had an Escort back then. I forget the year.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jan 2016

My husband finally traded it in for a pick up truck. I really liked it. However, like Bernie, I would prefer a car with stick shift, roll up windows, and no computerized parts.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
10. Depending on what she means by manual locks,
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:12 PM
Jan 2016

they still make them.

I despise cars that lock when the car starts moving. Excuse me, I can decide whether or not I want my doors locked, and when I'm inside I almost always want them unlocked. That's actually something I've paid attention to in the past when car shopping. If it wants to lock me in, it's out of consideration.

And the claim that automatic windows invariably go bad probably isn't true. I have 113,500 miles on my Civic, and I know people with upwards of 300k miles, and none of us have needed to fix the automatic window mechanism. Maybe crappy American cars, but not the Japanese and probably not the Swedish or German cars.

Honda was making a basic model Civic until somewhat recently that still had manual windows. Not sure if they still do.

I do drive a manual transmission, and hope to do so until I can no longer drive.

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