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Fri May 31, 2019, 03:56 PM

 

Warren leads again: proposes legislation so presidents can be indicted

As she has on so many issues, Elizabeth Warren is demonstrating leadership in proposing comprehensive legislation that would, among other things, allow a sitting president to be indicted.

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"she would pursue new legislation to strip the current protections and, on the administration side, pledged to appoint Justice Department officials who will reverse flawed policies so no President is shielded from criminal accountability.'"

On Wallace's show just now they gave Warren credit for speaking plainly on an issue that many Americans didn't realize was in practicality under DOJ guidelines the case, that a President is above the law.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/31/politics/elizabeth-warren-law-presidents-trump-indictment/index.html
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Reply Warren leads again: proposes legislation so presidents can be indicted (Original post)
Bradshaw3 May 2019 OP
get the red out May 2019 #1
LuvLoogie May 2019 #2
Bradshaw3 May 2019 #4
LuvLoogie May 2019 #11
LuvLoogie May 2019 #13
DURHAM D May 2019 #3
mcar May 2019 #5
Kurt V. May 2019 #6
Honeycombe8 May 2019 #7
abqtommy May 2019 #8
Demsrule86 May 2019 #9
Mr.Bill May 2019 #12
InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #10

Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 03:57 PM

1. Still undecided

 

But she is starting to reel me in.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 03:58 PM

2. Doesn't that hand the argument to the pukes

 

that under current law a President can't be indicted. Why cede them that ground?

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Response to LuvLoogie (Reply #2)

Fri May 31, 2019, 04:01 PM

4. No, Dems can do both at once

 

They can say the guidelines are wrong while also proposing legislation that would ensure that it becomes law. And if we worry about how they are going to paint it, then we have already ceded the ground to them.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #4)

Fri May 31, 2019, 05:08 PM

11. As it stands, now, a president is either indictable or not indictable, under current law.

 

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Trying to make a law that the president is indictable cedes the conclusion that, right now, the president is not indictable. The tack to take would be to sue that the "cannot indict a sitting president" policy is unconstitutional.

It is not a case of worrying about how they paint it, but how we will have painted it.

You can't do the "two things at a time" because one is a fall back solution in the case that the president is, indeed, not indictable. That argument is premature and undermines the argument that the president is, currently, indictable.
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Response to LuvLoogie (Reply #11)

Fri May 31, 2019, 06:07 PM

13. This would then strengthen the impeachment process...

 

one of the articles of impeachment would read. "The President stands indicted BY GRAND JURY of the the charge...
evidence is..."

Finding a policy unconstitutional would happen more quickly than getting a new law passed. Elizabeth Warren knows this. It's like Bernie FINALLY offering up a single payer healthcare bill AFTER the House and Senate fall under Republican control

That would be called "showboating."
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 03:59 PM

3. I keep thinking...

 

Every President has a Vice President so why can't the President be indicted?

jftr - Pence will be as bad as Trump but I am just sayin'
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 04:20 PM

5. She continues to impress

 

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 04:20 PM

6. been saying that here for a few days now. the president, any president is in fact above

 

the law. thank you (president) warren.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 04:24 PM

7. It would go straight to the Supreme Court.

 

The extremist Republican Court will knock it down. IMO.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 04:37 PM

8. To paraphrase the Lizzie Borden rhyme:

 

Lizzie Warren took an (verbal) axe
And gave tRUMP forty whacks.
When she saw what she had done
She gave Barr, McConnel and Pence forty-one!

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 04:43 PM

9. Not a good idea...every Democratic President could face indictment.

 

The GOP could not be trusted with this sort of power.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #9)

Fri May 31, 2019, 05:23 PM

12. Correct.

 

These assholes would have indicted Hillary on inauguration day.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 04:49 PM

10. Warren is a born leader... would make a good running mate with the Bern leader!!

 


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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