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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 08:57 PM Jun 2019

The other night, Bill Maher was complaining that Dem candidates should go to Fox News...

Basically, to go "where the voters are."

Unfortunately for those that do go on Fox News, the numbers don't bare this out...

Fox News Is Bad For Democratic Hopefuls
It's bad enough that Democrats are helping Fox News, but it's worse to see the New York Times promote their town halls to woo advertisers.

By Steve M.

Fox News has been lobbying Democratic primary candidates to try to persuade them to appear on the channel. It's also been lobbying the rest of the media -- you know, the folks its core audience regards as "fake news" -- in the hope of obtaining favorable coverage. I understand why a Democratic candidate might want to appear on Fox, even though I wouldn't if I were running. I don't understand why a rival news organization would want to help a competitor build its audience and increase its ad revenue. Under the rules of capitalism, that makes no sense.

But "liberal media" self-hate has led The New York Times to side with its rival. Here's a Times story telling us that if you're a Democratic candidate, you really should go on Fox, because all the cool Democrats are doing it:

The Fox News Primary? How Trump’s Favorite Network Became a Democratic Power Player

Three months ago, Democratic Party leaders took a stand: Fox News, President Trump’s favorite channel, and a reliable soapbox for attacks on liberals, was barred from participating in the party’s 2020 presidential debates. The move would ice out the network derided by critics as “state TV” from influencing the outcome of the Democratic primary.

Things have not exactly gone to plan.

By Sunday, the centrality of the Rupert Murdoch-controlled network to the party’s presidential contest was all but assured, as Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York became the fourth Democratic contender to sit for a Fox News town hall.

... Fox News — a network whose prime-time hours are often devoted to praising the president and skewering prominent Democrats — has squirreled itself into the heart of the Democratic primary.


Fox is now "central" to the Democratic race? There are 23 Democratic candidates. Four have done Fox town halls -- that's fewer than the number of candidates who did CNN town halls in one night in April. There's one more Fox town hall scheduled (Julian Castro next week). Other candidates are considering appearances -- the Times mentions a candidate who's not exactly "central" to the race, Bill de Blasio.

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/06/fox-news-bad-democratic-hopefuls
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The other night, Bill Maher was complaining that Dem candidates should go to Fox News... (Original Post) MrScorpio Jun 2019 OP
Sorry, but I think it's a good move to appear on FOX. Sure, they are going to bash our candidates, Hoyt Jun 2019 #1
Thank You for this, MrScorpio. Cha Jun 2019 #2
there are many ways to reach out to red area people. Elizabeth Warren goes JI7 Jun 2019 #3
Bingo! MrScorpio Jun 2019 #4
This article ignores the fact that a good number of Fox viewers are NOT republicans. oldsoftie Jun 2019 #5
Bills going to be a real downer this cycle BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #6
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Sorry, but I think it's a good move to appear on FOX. Sure, they are going to bash our candidates,
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:08 PM
Jun 2019

misrepresent what they say, and worse.

But, Democratic candidates also get to show they have good/needed ideas, are not evil communists, etc. Only 2% of viewers might get it, and may even still vote for GOPers, but it is a chance to get the truth on FOX.

I may well end up voting for someone who does not appear on FOX, so it's not a major deal if they don't appear.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,200 posts)
2. Thank You for this, MrScorpio.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:11 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JI7

(89,249 posts)
3. there are many ways to reach out to red area people. Elizabeth Warren goes
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:13 PM
Jun 2019

directly into their districts and talks to them face to face .

there is local news and even other conservative media that isn't fox news.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oldsoftie

(12,534 posts)
5. This article ignores the fact that a good number of Fox viewers are NOT republicans.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:21 PM
Jun 2019

Not to mention avoiding the largest cable news network just makes you look weak to some people. They may think, "You cant handle a Fox questioner how the hell are you gonna handle a REAL adversary?"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,384 posts)
6. Bills going to be a real downer this cycle
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:35 PM
Jun 2019

I can already see it now. Last Friday’s show was especially doom and gloom.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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