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Mon Jun 10, 2019, 11:27 AM

 

Sanders on bills with Hyde Amendment: 'Sometimes ... you have to vote for things you don't like'


By GRAPH MASSARA 06/09/2019 01:23 PM EDT

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders on Sunday defended his past votes for legislation containing a provision prohibiting federal funding for most abortions, while reiterating his support for abortion rights.

Sanders was asked on CNN’s “State of the Union” about his support for bills containing the Hyde Amendment, which bans using Medicaid funds for abortions unless the woman’s life is in danger or the pregnancy arises from rape or incest.

“Well, look, sometimes in a large bill you have to vote for things you don't like,” Sanders said. “But I think my record as being literally 100 percent 'pro-choice' is absolutely correct.”

He went on to emphasize his support for abortion rights.

"If you believe, as I do, that a woman's right to control her own body is a constitutional right, then that must apply to all women, including low-income women," Sanders said.

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DonViejo Jun 2019 OP
dlk Jun 2019 #1
Eric J in MN Jun 2019 #4
customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #6
dlk Jun 2019 #7
customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #8
dlk Jun 2019 #9
Bradshaw3 Jun 2019 #2
question everything Jun 2019 #3
JudyM Jun 2019 #5

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 11:33 AM

1. When Bernie Voted to Give Liability Immunity to the Gun Industry...

 

...was that his reasoning then? In 2005, I believe the PLCCA (the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act) was a stand alone bill.
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Response to dlk (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:46 PM

4. Bernie Sanders was asked about that

 

...in 2015-2016.

He said that he didn’t want a gun store to be blamed for a crime by a customer.
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Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:56 PM

6. He had a point

 

Let's say that every auto manufacturer and every auto dealer were to be held responsible for any damages committed by a driver of a car that was sold or manufactured. You'd wipe out the auto industry in a matter of months, as lawsuits bankrupted every manufacturer and dealer of motor vehicles. I think that was the real attempt behind this law, and Bernie saw through that.
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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:47 PM

7. If That's the Case, Why is the Gun Industry the Only Industry with That Protection?

 

There's something missing in your argument. Other industries don't have that same liability protection and I haven't read of any of them being wiped out from liability litigation.
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Response to dlk (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 02:52 PM

8. All industries have that protection

 

If you hit my car in an accident, could I sue the dealer you bought your car from, or its manufacturer? No, I couldn't, unless my lawyer could prove that there was a defect in your car caused by one or the other that made the accident likely or inevitable.

This legislation was about banning firearms of all kinds, including ones that are primarily meant for hunting or target shooting, without running into the 2nd Amendment head-on.
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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 08:11 PM

9. The Legislation was About Product Liability

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:28 PM

2. He's absolutely right

 

Otherwise no legislation would get passed. There is a lot of whataboutism going on because of Biden's support for the Hyde Amendent. Voting for a spending bill and being in favor of the Hyde Amendment until, what, five days ago, are not equal.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:38 PM

3. +1

 

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 10, 2019, 01:26 PM

5. Exactly.

 

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