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Jose Garcia

(2,581 posts)
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:13 PM Jun 2019

Buttigieg wouldn't reverse US embassy move to Jerusalem: 'What's done is done'

Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg says if he won he wouldn't reverse President Trump's controversial decision to move the U.S. embassy in Israel back to Tel Aviv from Jerusalem.

"I think what's done is done," Buttigieg told "Axios on HBO" in a clip shared Sunday. "We need a big picture strategy on the Middle East, I don't know that we'd gain much by moving it to Tel Aviv."

Trump in late 2017 made the decision to recognize the ancient holy city of Jerusalem as Israel's capital, and announced plans to relocate the U.S. embassy there. The move drew fire from critics who said it would further strain relations between Israelis and Palestinians, and increase the chances of a potential wide-scale conflict in the Middle East.

Despite saying he wouldn't reverse Trump's actions, Buttigieg said that "doesn't mean he did the right thing."

More: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/448826-buttigieg-wouldnt-reverse-us-embassy-move-to-jerusalem-whats-done-is-done?amp&__twitter_impression=true

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Buttigieg wouldn't reverse US embassy move to Jerusalem: 'What's done is done' (Original Post) Jose Garcia Jun 2019 OP
Much of what Trump did needs to be undone. This is yet another. If it is wrong, it is wrong. emmaverybo Jun 2019 #1
Agreed rpannier Jun 2019 #3
What else of Trump's will he not reverse in the name of "What's done is done"? Jake Stern Jun 2019 #2
Just for starters..Pete Buttigieg Promises To Immediately Scrub Any Trace Of Trumpism From The DOJ Celerity Jun 2019 #18
Every candidate supports scrubbing Trumpism from the DOJ. Jake Stern Jun 2019 #26
What are the positions on this from the other top tier candidates? Celerity Jun 2019 #28
This is why you have written Buttigieg off? What if Biden says the same thing? thesquanderer Jun 2019 #21
Posts like the one you respond to are unhelpful at best Cary Jun 2019 #29
I must admit, I am disappointed. denvine Jun 2019 #4
I guess he can use that argument with any of Trump's "changes." Big Blue Marble Jun 2019 #5
he is completely against all those Trump positions/policies Celerity Jun 2019 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #33
Yes, I'm sure he's going to put kids in cages. {sarcasm} thesquanderer Jun 2019 #22
We need someone who can not only undo the damage, but can Tikki Jun 2019 #6
Trump was wrong (Period) but... mikewv Jun 2019 #7
What else is he going to not change citing "What's done is done"? Jake Stern Jun 2019 #9
Yeah, but trev Jun 2019 #11
This isn't a good position, or as they say about some candidates, "not a good look". George II Jun 2019 #8
please see post #21 thesquanderer Jun 2019 #23
I really like Pete Buttigieg but he's wrong on this MustLoveBeagles Jun 2019 #10
Pete needs more experience. he needs to run for Congress or something JI7 Jun 2019 #12
Okay, I guess we don't need to re-unite all those kids separated from their families at the border TeamPooka Jun 2019 #13
Please see post #22 thesquanderer Jun 2019 #24
amen..this is my priority too..the kids are being hurt NOW.. samnsara Jun 2019 #30
he does say he doesn't want to go back to the past JI7 Jun 2019 #14
If the European and Asian allies still have their embassies in Tel Aviv, we should as well Bhkylib Jun 2019 #15
As a Buttigieg supporter, I totally disagree with this. He needs to rethink this stance. nt Celerity Jun 2019 #16
He may be right. If he'd move it, then the next Repub Prez would move it back,.... Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #17
Let's not do the right thing because a Repub might switch it back? Jake Stern Jun 2019 #25
"Might"? Try "would." Then the Dem "might" move it back. If he did, the Repub "would" move it back. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #32
I recall Orange Thief saying he would "erase the Obama Presidency" treestar Jun 2019 #19
we all have our pet projects for the new prez to do FIRST THING... samnsara Jun 2019 #27
Good. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, regardless of how committed some are to pretending tritsofme Jun 2019 #31
I think Pete hit the mark, that the real problem was doing it for nothing. Master negotiator?? thesquanderer Jun 2019 #34
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
1. Much of what Trump did needs to be undone. This is yet another. If it is wrong, it is wrong.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:19 PM
Jun 2019

Doesn’t solve the problems in the Mideast, but makes a statement about the U.S. as fair peace brokers.

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rpannier

(24,325 posts)
3. Agreed
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:33 PM
Jun 2019

On all points

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Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
2. What else of Trump's will he not reverse in the name of "What's done is done"?
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:25 PM
Jun 2019

This is exactly why I have written Buttigieg off - he lacks the courage to make the big steps to rid us of Trump's bullshit.

The first damn thing an incoming Dem president needs to do is put the brakes on the move, return staffers to Tel Aviv and tell Bibi Nut-and-Yahoo to go pound sand.

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Celerity

(43,039 posts)
18. Just for starters..Pete Buttigieg Promises To Immediately Scrub Any Trace Of Trumpism From The DOJ
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:35 AM
Jun 2019
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Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
26. Every candidate supports scrubbing Trumpism from the DOJ.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:47 PM
Jun 2019

BFD. How about righting a wrong and showing the Palestinians that we can be an honest broker?

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Celerity

(43,039 posts)
28. What are the positions on this from the other top tier candidates?
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jun 2019

I already said I disagreed with Buttigieg on this issue, but I will not buy into false framing that attempts to imply post hoc ergo propter hoc he therefore will not do a great deal to help roll back Trumpism. That is faulty logic and slanting to make such a leap.

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thesquanderer

(11,967 posts)
21. This is why you have written Buttigieg off? What if Biden says the same thing?
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:45 AM
Jun 2019

Biden did vote for the original resolution to move the embassy to Jerusalem in the first place.

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Cary

(11,746 posts)
29. Posts like the one you respond to are unhelpful at best
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jun 2019

We don't need ideological purity. We need discipline.

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denvine

(799 posts)
4. I must admit, I am disappointed.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:34 PM
Jun 2019

I really like Mayor Pete but this needs to be undone!

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Big Blue Marble

(5,034 posts)
5. I guess he can use that argument with any of Trump's "changes."
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:44 PM
Jun 2019

Deregulation, Paris Accords, Iran Treaty, DOJ policies, kids in cages, and on and on.

Where is his courage?

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Celerity

(43,039 posts)
20. he is completely against all those Trump positions/policies
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:40 AM
Jun 2019

LOL at

'where is his courage'


Pete Buttigieg Promises To Immediately Scrub Any Trace Of Trumpism From The DOJ

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287152394



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thesquanderer

(11,967 posts)
22. Yes, I'm sure he's going to put kids in cages. {sarcasm}
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:48 AM
Jun 2019

It's ridiculous to say that, if he won't change one policy, he won't change any. Each decision has its own unique parameters, and consequences. Maybe the courage is in being able to make those distinctions.

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Tikki

(14,548 posts)
6. We need someone who can not only undo the damage, but can
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:45 PM
Jun 2019

be the figure behind the fight to undo the damage.
Someone with experience.

Just because we will have a Democratic President doesn't mean
the deplorables won't fight like mad to keep even scraps of what they have.

Tikki

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mikewv

(126 posts)
7. Trump was wrong (Period) but...
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:47 PM
Jun 2019

I will keep an open mind to all possible Trump Presidential Opponents and their positions. Most every candidate is better than Trump. I will listen to all positions and decide later who I vote for to oppose Trump.

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Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
9. What else is he going to not change citing "What's done is done"?
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:51 PM
Jun 2019

That's called a cop out and definitely not something that makes me more likely to vote for a candidate.

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trev

(1,480 posts)
11. Yeah, but
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 10:00 PM
Jun 2019

I was disappointed when Obama let Bush and Cheney walk away scot-free, too.

This is a bad position for Pete to take. I disagree totally with it. I think I'll write to him and ask him to change his mind.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
8. This isn't a good position, or as they say about some candidates, "not a good look".
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:50 PM
Jun 2019
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MustLoveBeagles

(11,577 posts)
10. I really like Pete Buttigieg but he's wrong on this
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:57 PM
Jun 2019

This needs to reversed.

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JI7

(89,233 posts)
12. Pete needs more experience. he needs to run for Congress or something
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 10:03 PM
Jun 2019
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TeamPooka

(24,198 posts)
13. Okay, I guess we don't need to re-unite all those kids separated from their families at the border
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 01:55 AM
Jun 2019

because "what's done is done."
Thanks Mayor Pete.

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samnsara

(17,600 posts)
30. amen..this is my priority too..the kids are being hurt NOW..
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jun 2019

..lets end the policies now that are causing immediate death and injury..

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JI7

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14. he does say he doesn't want to go back to the past
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 02:28 AM
Jun 2019
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Bhkylib

(26 posts)
15. If the European and Asian allies still have their embassies in Tel Aviv, we should as well
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 04:56 AM
Jun 2019

So yes, the decision should be reversed.

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Celerity

(43,039 posts)
16. As a Buttigieg supporter, I totally disagree with this. He needs to rethink this stance. nt
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 07:39 AM
Jun 2019
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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. He may be right. If he'd move it, then the next Repub Prez would move it back,....
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:19 AM
Jun 2019

then the next Dem Prez would move it, and so on. The embassy would become a mobile embassy.

The damage has been done. Moving it won't fix that. Even if it did, it would be only temporary, I guess.

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Undecided
 

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
25. Let's not do the right thing because a Repub might switch it back?
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:42 PM
Jun 2019

Screw that. Move it back to Tel Aviv and if the GOP wants to play musical embassies then that's on them.

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
32. "Might"? Try "would." Then the Dem "might" move it back. If he did, the Repub "would" move it back.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 01:01 PM
Jun 2019

And so on.

As I said, he MIGHT be right. There is no single absolutely 100% correct answer.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. I recall Orange Thief saying he would "erase the Obama Presidency"
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:36 AM
Jun 2019

and he deserves no less.

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samnsara

(17,600 posts)
27. we all have our pet projects for the new prez to do FIRST THING...
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jun 2019

..i for one would like to see the family separation policy immediately ceased and replaced with a well thought out compassionate fair immigration plan...of course this is all done after Prez he/she has to have trump arrested for trespassing when he refuses to pack up and leave.

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tritsofme

(17,363 posts)
31. Good. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, regardless of how committed some are to pretending
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jun 2019

otherwise.

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thesquanderer

(11,967 posts)
34. I think Pete hit the mark, that the real problem was doing it for nothing. Master negotiator??
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 01:11 PM
Jun 2019

This is something Israel wanted, and could have been part of a plan that also extracted some concession to help move the peace process along. Instead, Trump did what one side wanted, while getting nothing back from that side in return.

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