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Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:26 AM

 

So you say you want a flawless candidate and flawless MSNBC talking heads...

It is as if we have this ten carat diamond and it is rated as

IF

which means

Flawless category (IF) diamonds have no inclusions visible under 10x magnification, only small blemishes on the diamond surface.


Only one category better, Flawless. We focus on the surface flaws in all of our candidates while a NAZI FASCIST MURDERING RAPIST is running the show and is OWNED by another one.


The flawless people I refer to or near so are Rachel and Lawrence on TV and most of our candidates, in fact all Democrats who are currently running. Certainly near flawless if comparing to ANY fucking republican.
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Reply So you say you want a flawless candidate and flawless MSNBC talking heads... (Original post)
Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 OP
DownriverDem Jun 2019 #1
The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #2
Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #3
dsc Jun 2019 #4
marylandblue Jun 2019 #5
LibFarmer Jun 2019 #6
lambchopp59 Jun 2019 #7
zaj Jun 2019 #8
Perseus Jun 2019 #9
barbtries Jun 2019 #10
Politicub Jun 2019 #11
barbtries Jun 2019 #12
brooklynite Jun 2019 #13
Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #14

Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:34 AM

1. And the winning ticket is ...

 

Biden/Harris!!!!!!!!!
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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:34 AM

2. All of the candidates are "flawed" in one way or another.

 

That's because they are people. Some of them have had long careers in politics, meaning that at some point they did something or said something or voted for or against something that some of us won't like. Some are old; maybe some people will think they are too old. Some are young, maybe too young for some of us, or relatively inexperienced. Some are more articulate than others. Some have detailed ideas; some have broad aspirations. Some haven't got a snowball's chance in Hell of getting the nomination but want attention, either for their issues or for themselves.

So if a flawed candidate, which is all of them, can beat Trump, can you live with his/her flaws, or will you reject him/her as being insufficiently pure or not adequately representing what you, personally, feel good about?

I'm going with whoever can beat Trump's sorry orange ass, which means I'll take the candidate who can best do that, warts and all. Fuck purity and fuck my feelings.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:35 AM

3. Exactly my point. IF means surface flaws on a diamond, any Democrat is at worst

 

someone with minor surface flaws compared to not only rump but at this point any living republican.

My only feelings are the ones that dont want to live anymore if rump is reelected, I would even accept the ONE non Democrat running over rump but I wouldnt be thrilled about it.
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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:38 AM

4. I am going to paraphrase the late Paul Tsongas

 

when Bill Clinton accused him of saying he was perfect he said no just honest. I simply wish our reporters to be honest. I don't want them to tell fantastic tales of having been hacked as she did.
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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:42 AM

5. I don't want a flawless candidate. I want a candidate who has a good media strategy.

 

Who looks good on camera, works well with reporters and producers, gives lots of access, and has a game plan, for squelching negative stories. I think most of the candidates don't realize how important and so they pay very little attention to it.

Trump knows how important it is. People think he's wasting time watching TV, but he thinks that's his job. He watches how things play on TV then spins everything, badgers or rewards reporters or changes the subject. He's got a very well-honed media strategy and we continually underestimate him because we think he's an idiot.

You can have a truely flawless diamond, but it's worthless if nobody can see it.
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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:43 AM

6. But .. but... some candidates are pure, pristine and divine

 

at least in the minds of their supporters who do not possess any objective valuation skills nor equipment like a professional diamond appraiser does.
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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 12:23 PM

7. A little comic relief: couldn't help myself

 

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 01:49 PM

8. Every Dem candidate is flawless compared to Trump

 

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:34 PM

9. Yes, but some are less flawless than others

 

We must all study well all candidates, get rid of our fanatism and choose the one that, after studying the facts, we know will defeat the republicans.

I would rather see the buffoon impeached.
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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:38 PM

10. i agree.

 

Democrats are not the bad guys and it's disheartening how many Democrats blame Democrats for republicans, as if they actually have power. the power is in the republicans' hands and they are not afraid to abuse it. they ignore the law and are corrupt in plain sight. this is in spite of the Democrats efforts to stem the tide and hold them accountable.

the media continues to act as if it's just another day in a normal presidency and shares trump's tweets instead of reporting the real news, like torturing people at the border. the scenario that these immigrants are "illegal aliens" instead of refugees seeking asylum which many if not most at this time are.

i am frustrated that impeachment has not begun yet, but this DU post i think makes a great case that Pelosi is necessarily making the most airtight case that she can in order to battle the inevitable propaganda that it's only happening to score political points.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212117504

i think we need a general strike.
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Response to barbtries (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:47 PM

11. Change starts with you.

 

Your move.
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Response to Politicub (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:13 PM

12. hey i'm doing my best.

 

but thanks.
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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:11 PM

13. Nobody is flawless...on TV or in politics.

 

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 04:31 AM

14. Who said that?

 

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