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TexasTowelie

(112,630 posts)
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:16 PM Jun 2019

Bernie Sanders faces a new kind of threat in Elizabeth Warren

By Sean Sullivan, Washington Post


The Bernie Sanders campaign, facing a new challenge in the rise of Elizabeth Warren, has settled for now on a careful if sometimes awkward strategy: emphasizing Sanders’s unique position in the liberal movement, while avoiding direct attacks on Warren and rolling out plans that overlap with her attention-grabbing ideas.

That approach was on display Monday as Sanders introduced a proposal to cancel all student debt across the country. His plan came about two months after Warren announced her own idea for scrapping student debt, one that would cover fewer people than Sanders’s would. “Under the proposal we introduced today, all student debt would be canceled in six months,” Sanders said.

But doubling down on his ideological purity and socialist credentials carries risks for the senator from Vermont, other Democrats say. It’s enabled Warren to position herself as impassioned but reasonable, while Sanders holds down the leftward flank of the Democratic Party and serves as the ideological outlier in the race.

“They both have a crusader mentality around correcting what is wrong,” said Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), who knows both and has not yet endorsed in the contest. “They understand they are speaking to a similar vision of the country, and obviously they are trying to distinguish themselves from each other.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bernie-sanders-faces-a-new-kind-of-threat-in-elizabeth-warren/2019/06/24/f4972f78-9613-11e9-8d0a-5edd7e2025b1_story.html
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Cha

(297,968 posts)
1. Good! Go Elizabeth.. is what
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:21 PM
Jun 2019

I have to say!

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riverine

(516 posts)
2. Whoa!
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:28 PM
Jun 2019
But doubling down on his ideological purity and socialist credentials


You mean that isn't working for Bernie?

Say it ain't so.
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
3. If both campaigns remain strong
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 09:34 PM
Jun 2019

the likelihood is they will split the progressive vote and cancel each other out. (A big IF)

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
4. I believe the first debate is going to break that logjam.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 10:50 PM
Jun 2019

Senator Sanders' campaign seems to be doing the same tactic that it used in 2016, take published policy proposals by opponents and make bigger promises about outcomes. I truly think the landscape is different this time, Senator Sanders will be asked detailed questions and he has shown that he does not like that, Senator Warren, on the other hand is in her preferred element answering detailed questions. I think that Senator Sanders' ploy will most likely backfire on him, to Senator Warren's benefit.

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betsuni

(25,765 posts)
5. Warren was smart to get out there early and make sure we were familiar with her policies.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 11:29 PM
Jun 2019

She knew this was coming, the same tactic from 2016.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. A lot of people are underestimating her. To their regret, IMO. nt
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 11:41 PM
Jun 2019
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betsuni

(25,765 posts)
6. "Our plan will cancel a substantial amount of student debt and in some ways,
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 11:39 PM
Jun 2019

probably further than Senator Warren's." When asked by the interviewer if that means more than $50,000 Bernie says, "I don't have the plan in my pocket right now."

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. That is the way that he answers detailed questions, always it seems.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 11:43 PM
Jun 2019

Yet there are some that see him as a beacon of light that we all are idiots if we don't see.

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betsuni

(25,765 posts)
12. Like breaking up the big banks. Just break them up!
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 06:46 AM
Jun 2019

Reminds me of this:

"All these companies, they write-off everything."
"You don't even know what a write-off is."
"Do you?"
"No, I don't."


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Cha

(297,968 posts)
10. LOL.. and
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 05:37 AM
Jun 2019

water is wet!

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Vegas Roller

(704 posts)
9. Senator Warren is far far better
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 11:49 PM
Jun 2019

than Senator BS.

She has actual workable plans and policies. She never goes for slogans and platitudes.

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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
11. A trillion bucks in debt disappearing in 6 months? That's some trick.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 06:02 AM
Jun 2019
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