***********Number 3 thread***************

[a kennedy]

and this is gettin almost out of hand....JMHO

[a kennedy]

1. and here we go.....

[Hekate]

2. Gillibrand is getting on my nerves

[leftieNanner]

8. Me too

"I have a comprehensive plan...."

[relayerbob]

9. Agreed 100%

[superpatriotman]

10. Me three

Time.

[gopiscrap]

127. me four

[dflprincess]

11. You're not alone.

I wish they'd cut her mike.

[a kennedy]

13. Yah, she's yelling and it IS VERY annoying.

[EveHammond13]

18. yes. no need to yell every answer.

[FarPoint]

21. She reminds me of a spoiled "preppy" type...

someone in the classroom who jumps up says, " Me, Me my turn teacher"....

She is such a turn-off.

[Bradshaw3]

35. Ha, nailed it

I started muting her.

[pangaia]

48. She did that about an hour ago..

[Skittles]

75. she IS a spoilled preppy type

[TruckFump]

87. You nailed that one!

I was trying to think of why she annoys me.

[Politicub]

3. Thread 2 went TOO FAR

just kidding....

[a kennedy]

4. Ha ha......

[leftieNanner]

5. Very exciting!

I think both Joe and Bernie are not doing well. Bernie is one note and Joe sounds a half step slow. Just imho

[aaaaaa5a]

12. Bernie is having a long night.

[cannabis_flower]

40. I agree.

Bernie sounds angry and Joe is starting to respond to an attack and then he goes off somewhere I can't follow.

[Politicub]

6. Bernie -- Interesting idea about rotating judges

Hmm...

[a kennedy]

15. Yah, I kinda like that idea as well.......

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

29. I don't know exactly how that would be done, but it's true that

the Constitution doesn't prohibit that, or even address it. All it says is: "The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office." It doesn't say the judges have to stay in the courts they were appointed to, and I couldn't find anything in the federal statute (28 U.S. Code) that addresses this either.

[Politicub]

47. Never considered it. Seems like its plausible.

But I don't know if it would cause more chaos than it would solve.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

54. Probably. I'm not sure how it could be done as a practical matter,

unless a statute were passed which specifically stated something all judges would rotate through the Supreme Court, a court of appeals and a federal district court every five years or something. It would probably be more of a problem than a solution.

[marylandblue]

122. I could see it working better if SCOTUS judges were term limited.

After 10 years or so, you rotate to a permanent position on an appellate court. New justices would be picked by the regular process, Senate has to have an up or down vote within 90 days of nomination.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

123. The Constitution says only that federal judges get lifetime appointments, but

it doesn't say that they are required to stay in the same court. Still, I think it would be hard to manage.

[ancianita]

129. +1

[Lheurch]

36. No

Trump now taking notes to rotate four specific ones to traffic court.

[aaaaaa5a]

7. Harris has had the breakout moment she was looking for.

[crazytown]

17. bussing - 'that little girl was me'

[Lheurch]

14. Gillibrand

is VERY annoying. No respect for the moderators.

[Dream Girl]

16. Why are they letting Gillibrand go freewheeling.

I’d rather hear Marianne Williamson

[Clash City Rocker]

62. Di Blasio did the same thing last night

But yeah, it’s annoying. And I don’t think it’s helping her.

[dem4decades]

19. Harris shits on Chuck. I'm falling in love.

[Politicub]

20. "Greatest security threat to US - Donald Trump", said Kamala Harris

Boom. Excellent way to make the point about climate and call out Trump.

[ecstatic]

22. lol @ the way Kamala said Chuck. nt

[zonkers]

30. When I watch Harris I feel like I'm watching a movie star playing politician.

[pangaia]

53. Is that a + or a - ? I really don;lt know.

[zonkers]

67. I think it's a plus in her case,

Just because it’s so her and authentic.

[Celerity]

32. +1

[nolabear]

23. Harris is attacking more than defending her positions.

I halfway appreciate it but I’m not left with an impression about her own policies.

[dem4decades]

31. Against Trump it would be very effective.

[hlthe2b]

39. I would wager less than 1% of audience understood her point or what she was accusing Biden of doing

Reading through the posts on the other thread, it is clear Duers watching didn't either.

It was just an ugly rant that only served to ambush. I love Kamala, but that was bad.

[a kennedy]

24. Why do I really like Mayor B......

[Politicub]

27. He has the x-factor. No one can escape its pull.

NO ONE!

[defacto7]

119. Because he's real.

[AnnieBW]

25. "Embracing Science Fiction over Science Fact"

As a science fiction fan, I take offense to that. Fiction has to make sense.

[Celerity]

42. Rump science fiction

[ecstatic]

26. Are we being tougher on Gillibrand because her voice is high pitched?

[elleng]

33. Something like that.

[crazytown]

34. No

[Politicub]

37. Who are you talking about?

She's getting a proportional amount of criticism based on her ratio of interruption.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

38. No, although it is. But she keeps interrupting and it's irritating.

[frazzled]

65. I find it interesting

That so many are complaining about Gillibrand “yelling,” without mentioning the equally irritating yelling by Sanders. Double standard? You be da judge.

[ecstatic]

71. Honestly, both of their voices irritate me. Sanders' accent

is like nails on a chalkboard for me. I absolutely hate the way he pronounces certain words, like "human." Then when you add in the yelling component, it's almost unbearable.

[cannabis_flower]

72. That's one of the reasons

both of them are out for me. Among other things. And Biden is still a no for me.

Harris, Mayor Pete are doing good.

[ecstatic]

90. You have a problem with Biden's voice/accent? I actually like his,

but probably because it reminds me of my dad's neck of the woods (upstate NY).

[cannabis_flower]

94. I think you are responding to the post above mine.

I never said I had a problem with Biden's voice. I have a problem with what he says.

[elleng]

98. BROOKLYN!!!

Glad to see some chat about this, as I've thought this might be cause of complaints about him. I grew up there, and like to hear a 'hometown' accent; I understand why others don't.

[ecstatic]

104. That's not a Brooklyn accent IMO. I'm from BK

as well. Sanders has a weird mixture of New York and something else.

[elleng]

105. Sure ain't Vermont!!!

[Bradshaw3]

28. Getting out of hand - just like the debate

[BeyondGeography]

57. My reaction to this debate

Thank goodness Warren is in the race. So many of the best moments for other candidates is when they pick up her themes. The only exception I saw tonight was Mayor Pete, who obviously has a brilliant mind of his own.

[Bradshaw3]

60. The shrillness is wearing on me

That applies to both genders. The first half was uncontrolled interruptions. The second half shrillness. Not all but several of them.

[BeyondGeography]

63. The first half went off the rails

I thought Bernie was a big part of that. He showed up in a bad mood and loaded with bile.

[Bradshaw3]

80. That's kinda Bernie isn't it?

I say that as someone who appreciates Bernie's contributions to the discussion.

[dawg day]

66. I thought he was good--

He somehow manages to be brilliantly intelligent but also perfectly relatable.

[BeyondGeography]

83. Really impressed with him

He has a world class temperament in addition to all his other qualities.

[MrsCoffee]

41. Biden did not like Bernie's finger in his face, lol.

[customerserviceguy]

76. Yeah, I caught that, too. n/t

[True Dough]

43. Eric Swalwell's message: "Pass the torch"

Yeah, yeah. We get it already.

[crazytown]

45. It's all he's got

the rest is dross

[Generic Brad]

68. Burn.

[defacto7]

121. Now he's the most irritating one to me.

[leftieNanner]

44. Marianne bugs me.

She will be gone.

[hlthe2b]

52. all self-sanctimony...

[leftieNanner]

56. Perfect description

Will she be this year's Jill Stein?

[Gidney N Cloyd]

59. It's just a book tour.

[leftieNanner]

61. Yeah

[kwassa]

69. Most of these candidates will be gone soon.

[jcgoldie]

73. Well if you don't like it...

...call New Zealand.

[leftieNanner]

79. Lol

[True Dough]

46. I like these questions with rapid-fire responses

Everyone gets a say.

[apcalc]

49. Sanders is abrasive and angry, imo...

such a turnoff.

[jcgoldie]

70. No way!

So unlike Bernie!

[Skittles]

78. when has he not been?

[emmaverybo]

92. Great minds think alike. I used the same descriptor in another thread. Abrasive, like sandpaper. NT

[flamingdem]

50. Go Joe! #1 Climate change and getting rid of tRump!

[True Dough]

51. Even though Yang isn't going to get elected

I won't turn away the $1,000 check that he's willing to mail to me!

[a kennedy]

55. Feel kinda bad for him......he was great on Stephen Colbert, but not here.

[Bradshaw3]

58. He actually does a very good job of explaining it - when given the time

Just not possible in this format. In his interviews he has been as impressive as Mayor Pete to me.

[ecstatic]

74. LOL! nt

[a kennedy]

64. Guns now......

[frazzled]

85. Biden just got a shout out from my husband

Who has been asking about why we don’t require police to use smart guns. He wrote our alderman about it, and got an interested response. (So far, no movement.)

[tishaLA]

77. From Olivia Nuzzi's twitter feed

(Sorry on my phone so I can't link)

A source close to the Biden campaign tells me his staff is “freaking out” about his poor performance tonight.

[elleng]

88. Too bad; they're wrong.

Hope his staff improves.

[dem4decades]

95. He'snot doing bad but Harris is killing it.

[a kennedy]

100. I love Bernie.....have for a long time....I just think he's sick of this shit.....

sick of others picking up his causes that he’s had for a lot of years.....and sick he has to deal with these tag a longs.....JMHO

[marylandblue]

125. I agree with his staff, but it's not that he did so terrible, but

he had some smart and energetic opponents. He needed to outshine them all and he didn't do that.

[tishaLA]

126. It's also only one debate

But a follow-up tweet said that he's obstinate and won't take advice according to the staff (I'm guessing Symone Sanders)

[TruckFump]

81. Hi, y'all again!

[aaaaaa5a]

82. Williamson is going to make a lot of phone calls on day one.

[Politicub]

84. "We don't know which one of our allies that [Trump] will piss off next" -- P. Buttigieg

Amazing quote.

[bronxiteforever]

86. It was great!

[bullwinkle428]

91. BOOM BABY!! He's offered up a few great lines tonight!

[zonkers]

108. He could do stand up.

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[TruckFump]

93. That was a winner.

[Raven123]

89. At least Chuck and Rachel are asking better questions tonight

Last night Chuck talked so much I almost thought he was one of the debaters. I thought the questions about dealing with MCConnell and Trump after the election were a waste of airtime.

[crazytown]

96. (I think) Joe has taken the bait

and crossed over from forceful to irritated. He is not coming across as presidential which he can do at a canter. He should be able to rise above the fray.

[tishaLA]

97. BS: "That's a mischaracterization"

Maddow: "That's a quote"

[TruckFump]

99. Salwell...disappointing.

[StevieM]

101. Terrible night for him.

He just keeps saying that we need a new generation. I don't think that is going to impress anyone, including the younger generation.

[TruckFump]

103. Yeah, that got really old really fast.

[BeyondGeography]

109. Fold the tent

There’s always 2032.

[TruckFump]

111. Totally agree.

[defacto7]

124. More than disappointing

[Ztolkins]

102. ok, who let boozy in?

[Maven]

106. LOL!!!!!

[customerserviceguy]

107. What

you don't feel the love?

[Maven]

112. Not only do I feel it, I HARNESS it

HARNESS THE LOVE 2020

[Ztolkins]

114. So much...

At the bottom of my glass

[Hekate]

110. Oh Marianne -- the woo is strong in this one

[emmaverybo]

113. Gillebrand such an ice princess meets Blondie. She is almost as abrasive as Bernie, but with

less intellectual polish, skill, and gravitas,

[pangaia]

118. " ice princess meets Blondie"

[elleng]

115. Bernie and Joe are right.

[a kennedy]

116. Ok.....I still love Bernie's message, ok, he's my grumpy old uncle, but damn

love his passion.

[Politicub]

117. Biden had a great close.

[elleng]

120. I thought Rachel felt uncomfortable,

and she just confirmed it. Hope she gets a long break (tho we'll miss her.)

[NastyRiffraff]

128. I finally had to turn off MSNBC after the debate

Every other candidate waded into the crowd, talking to them, taking selfies, etc. Except for one, who made a beeline to reporters. That one, of course, was Bernie Sanders. I cut it off because they kept the mic on him talking. And talking, and talking, and talking, and talking. On and on and on and on.

There were a couple of winners tonight (Harris and Buttigieg), but Sanders was the big loser.

[Bayard]

130. I like Kamala a lot, BUT....

Joe Biden said he learned to work with the separatist senators way back when. He definitely did not say he adopted their attitude. He never got a chance to explain, and she doesn't seem to want to hear it anyway. Otherwise, I think she did great.

What the hell was up with Swalwell? He's been good any time I've seen him interviewed, but tonight, he was just annoying. Almost as much as Gillenbrand, and that little gnome that wouldn't shut up on Wed. night. You would see some of the others politely raising a hand to try to get time when they wanted to make a point. The rude ones just appeared desperate.

Bernie was Bernie. Mayor Pete was good. Wang just looked bored, and disheveled.

I watched Joe after the debate was over, communing with the crowd. He looks directly into a person's eyes, and really focuses on them. He holds hands, he holds shoulders. He exudes empathy. And that goes for both women and men. Kamala does much the same. They both seem genuine. They would make a great team if they could get that one issue resolved.

My .02