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Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

 

Kamala reminds me of Obama. They both enjoy the moment they're in, they

donít seem to stress easily, and theyíre both very, very smart and logical.
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Reply Kamala reminds me of Obama. They both enjoy the moment they're in, they (Original post)
Irishxs Jun 2019 OP
Gringoguapisimo Jun 2019 #1
IluvPitties Jun 2019 #2
PatSeg Jun 2019 #10
Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #20
Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #3
hunter Jun 2019 #4
BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #5
IluvPitties Jun 2019 #7
BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #12
misanthrope Jun 2019 #18
Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #15
Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #21
tishaLA Jun 2019 #6
tinrobot Jun 2019 #8
forgotmylogin Jun 2019 #27
MaryMagdaline Jun 2019 #9
crazytown Jun 2019 #13
MaryMagdaline Jun 2019 #19
crazytown Jun 2019 #11
helpisontheway Jun 2019 #14
Irishxs Jun 2019 #16
yuiyoshida Jun 2019 #17
Irishxs Jun 2019 #22
grantcart Jun 2019 #23
pnwmom Jun 2019 #24
LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #28
JI7 Jun 2019 #25
LeftInTX Jun 2019 #26
LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #29
AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #30

Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:42 PM

1. Obama was an orator beyond anything on that stage

 

I donít know if Harris can excite people like that.
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Response to Gringoguapisimo (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:45 PM

2. Exactly. Obama, Barbara Jordan, MLK...

 

Those guys packed power in every word.
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Response to Gringoguapisimo (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:54 PM

10. Obama was extraordinary

 

on the campaign trail, but he was rather weak in the primary debates. Harris is an excellent debater, probably the best on that stage.
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Response to Gringoguapisimo (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

20. Yes. Not even close. Obama had "the gift." nt

 

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Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:48 PM

3. I don't see! She may be good, but Obama .....he was masterful

 

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Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:48 PM

4. Yep. I'll vote for a competent President.

 

Kamala and Obama are fiercely competent.
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Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:50 PM

5. Buttigieg reminds me more of Obama than Harris

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:52 PM

7. Can you see Pete addressing the folks at the South Carolina church like Obama did?

 

I cannot.
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Response to IluvPitties (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:55 PM

12. I'm talking temperament

 

I have a hard time imagining either one of them losing it. The way they organize their thoughts is very similar too.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:09 AM

18. Agreed

 

His answer about South Bend's latest policing controversy was masterful in delivery and substance.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:03 AM

15. Me, too! More so than Harris who has her own style.

 

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

21. I think so, too. In a way. He has that charisma, and oratorical skill. nt

 

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Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:51 PM

6. They also know how to connect the personal and the political masterfully

 

and have a ready, winning smile
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Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:52 PM

8. Some of the same qualities, but she's different.

 

I think she'd be good for this moment in time.
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Response to tinrobot (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:48 AM

27. Yeah, it doesn't mean Harris can't communicate.

 

She's a lawyer so she's good at presenting evidence and debate. But she's also relatable as a person, which might initially seem like a step down from "orator" level like Obama - orators you listen to with rapt attention, people like Kamala you relate with on a personal level in a back and forth exchange. Different level, no less valid. I'd classify Warren also as an orator, but she multiskills between both levels; she can damn well give an inspiring speech, but also relate in a back and forth on the level of a teacher or mentor instead of just a speechmaker.

Too many politicians are just "speechmakers" a and don't do well when you ask them a question, instead answering with "default stock speech with soundbyte in response to subject-A."
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Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:52 PM

9. Kamala is more Bobby Kennedy

 

More in your face
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Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:57 PM

13. Bobby 1952 -64

 

The RFK taking on Hoffa. Yes, but not Bobby 1968.
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Response to crazytown (Reply #13)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:10 AM

19. Good analysis. Prosecutorial Bobby

 

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Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:55 PM

11. I only saw Obama lose it once like Harris did with Biden

 

when he knocked Hillary for being on the board of Walmart. I remember it clearly because it was so out of character. For me, Obama the master politician will always be saying 'Please proceed Governor'.
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Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:01 AM

14. Nope..she is not like Obama. Good debater but does not

 

hold a candle to him when it comes to exciting people.
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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #14)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:05 AM

16. I think she is building speed.

 

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Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:05 AM

17. yes

 

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Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:15 AM

22. Key word in title is "reminds". I didn't say they were mirror images

 

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Response to Irishxs (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:54 AM

23. You were correct about Harris appearing to enjoy it like Obama did

 


If Secretary Clinton projected the same joy Harris did we would be talking a second term

It is a great point. People don't want a grinch they are drawn to people who are relaxed and having fun.

Reagan had more fun than Carter and Mondale, Bush more than Gore etc.,

It's a great point and it is going to do wonders for her.
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Response to grantcart (Reply #23)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:23 AM

24. Harris has a twinkle in her eye, like many of the great politicians. n/t

 

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Response to grantcart (Reply #23)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 02:14 AM

28. Agreed!!!

 

Good point made.
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Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:30 AM

25. i don't think she is really like Obama at all

 

but then, nobody really is
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Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:38 AM

26. She's too edgy. Obama was chill.

 

Castro reminded me a bit of Obama last night.
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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #26)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 02:15 AM

29. In The Age of Donald Trump....

 

It's High Time to be Edgy.....As the Chill with Trump has been taken COMPLETELY OUT OF THE ROOM. We need a Candidate for the Time we are in NOW and not 2008 or 2012.
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Response to Irishxs (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 02:42 AM

30. she's been called female obama years ago

 

There are lots of similarities: both are biracial, west coast/ Hawaii, both are JD, both are junior senators, etc.etc.
In other words, you just wonít find anyone more similar to Obama than Harris. If there is one notable personal difference is that Harris does not have children of her own (stepchildren I believe) as she just married recently.
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