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Kamala reminds me of Obama. They both enjoy the moment they're in, they (Original Post) Irishxs Jun 2019 OP
Obama was an orator beyond anything on that stage Gringoguapisimo Jun 2019 #1
Exactly. Obama, Barbara Jordan, MLK... IluvPitties Jun 2019 #2
Obama was extraordinary PatSeg Jun 2019 #10
Yes. Not even close. Obama had "the gift." nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #20
I don't see! She may be good, but Obama .....he was masterful Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #3
Yep. I'll vote for a competent President. hunter Jun 2019 #4
Buttigieg reminds me more of Obama than Harris BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #5
Can you see Pete addressing the folks at the South Carolina church like Obama did? IluvPitties Jun 2019 #7
I'm talking temperament BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #12
Agreed misanthrope Jun 2019 #18
Me, too! More so than Harris who has her own style. Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #15
I think so, too. In a way. He has that charisma, and oratorical skill. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #21
They also know how to connect the personal and the political masterfully tishaLA Jun 2019 #6
Some of the same qualities, but she's different. tinrobot Jun 2019 #8
Yeah, it doesn't mean Harris can't communicate. forgotmylogin Jun 2019 #27
Kamala is more Bobby Kennedy MaryMagdaline Jun 2019 #9
Bobby 1952 -64 crazytown Jun 2019 #13
Good analysis. Prosecutorial Bobby MaryMagdaline Jun 2019 #19
I only saw Obama lose it once like Harris did with Biden crazytown Jun 2019 #11
Nope..she is not like Obama. Good debater but does not helpisontheway Jun 2019 #14
I think she is building speed. Irishxs Jun 2019 #16
yes yuiyoshida Jun 2019 #17
Key word in title is "reminds". I didn't say they were mirror images Irishxs Jun 2019 #22
You were correct about Harris appearing to enjoy it like Obama did grantcart Jun 2019 #23
Harris has a twinkle in her eye, like many of the great politicians. n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #24
Agreed!!! LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #28
i don't think she is really like Obama at all JI7 Jun 2019 #25
She's too edgy. Obama was chill. LeftInTX Jun 2019 #26
In The Age of Donald Trump.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #29
she's been called female obama years ago AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #30
 

Gringoguapisimo

(13 posts)
1. Obama was an orator beyond anything on that stage
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:42 PM
Jun 2019

I don’t know if Harris can excite people like that.

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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
2. Exactly. Obama, Barbara Jordan, MLK...
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:45 PM
Jun 2019

Those guys packed power in every word.

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PatSeg

(47,586 posts)
10. Obama was extraordinary
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:54 PM
Jun 2019

on the campaign trail, but he was rather weak in the primary debates. Harris is an excellent debater, probably the best on that stage.

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Honeycombe8

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20. Yes. Not even close. Obama had "the gift." nt
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:11 AM
Jun 2019
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Thekaspervote

(32,793 posts)
3. I don't see! She may be good, but Obama .....he was masterful
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:48 PM
Jun 2019
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hunter

(38,326 posts)
4. Yep. I'll vote for a competent President.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:48 PM
Jun 2019

Kamala and Obama are fiercely competent.

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BeyondGeography

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5. Buttigieg reminds me more of Obama than Harris
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:50 PM
Jun 2019
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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
7. Can you see Pete addressing the folks at the South Carolina church like Obama did?
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:52 PM
Jun 2019

I cannot.

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BeyondGeography

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12. I'm talking temperament
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:55 PM
Jun 2019

I have a hard time imagining either one of them losing it. The way they organize their thoughts is very similar too.

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misanthrope

(7,428 posts)
18. Agreed
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:09 AM
Jun 2019

His answer about South Bend's latest policing controversy was masterful in delivery and substance.

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Kind of Blue

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15. Me, too! More so than Harris who has her own style.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:03 AM
Jun 2019
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Honeycombe8

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21. I think so, too. In a way. He has that charisma, and oratorical skill. nt
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:13 AM
Jun 2019
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tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
6. They also know how to connect the personal and the political masterfully
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:51 PM
Jun 2019

and have a ready, winning smile

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tinrobot

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8. Some of the same qualities, but she's different.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:52 PM
Jun 2019

I think she'd be good for this moment in time.

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forgotmylogin

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27. Yeah, it doesn't mean Harris can't communicate.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:48 AM
Jun 2019

She's a lawyer so she's good at presenting evidence and debate. But she's also relatable as a person, which might initially seem like a step down from "orator" level like Obama - orators you listen to with rapt attention, people like Kamala you relate with on a personal level in a back and forth exchange. Different level, no less valid. I'd classify Warren also as an orator, but she multiskills between both levels; she can damn well give an inspiring speech, but also relate in a back and forth on the level of a teacher or mentor instead of just a speechmaker.

Too many politicians are just "speechmakers" a and don't do well when you ask them a question, instead answering with "default stock speech with soundbyte in response to subject-A."

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MaryMagdaline

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9. Kamala is more Bobby Kennedy
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:52 PM
Jun 2019

More in your face

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crazytown

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13. Bobby 1952 -64
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:57 PM
Jun 2019

The RFK taking on Hoffa. Yes, but not Bobby 1968.

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MaryMagdaline

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19. Good analysis. Prosecutorial Bobby
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:10 AM
Jun 2019
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crazytown

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11. I only saw Obama lose it once like Harris did with Biden
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:55 PM
Jun 2019

when he knocked Hillary for being on the board of Walmart. I remember it clearly because it was so out of character. For me, Obama the master politician will always be saying 'Please proceed Governor'.

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helpisontheway

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14. Nope..she is not like Obama. Good debater but does not
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:01 AM
Jun 2019

hold a candle to him when it comes to exciting people.

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Irishxs

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16. I think she is building speed.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:05 AM
Jun 2019
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Irishxs

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22. Key word in title is "reminds". I didn't say they were mirror images
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:15 AM
Jun 2019
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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
23. You were correct about Harris appearing to enjoy it like Obama did
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:54 AM
Jun 2019

If Secretary Clinton projected the same joy Harris did we would be talking a second term

It is a great point. People don't want a grinch they are drawn to people who are relaxed and having fun.

Reagan had more fun than Carter and Mondale, Bush more than Gore etc.,

It's a great point and it is going to do wonders for her.
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pnwmom

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24. Harris has a twinkle in her eye, like many of the great politicians. n/t
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:23 AM
Jun 2019
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LovingA2andMI

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28. Agreed!!!
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 02:14 AM
Jun 2019

Good point made.

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JI7

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25. i don't think she is really like Obama at all
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:30 AM
Jun 2019

but then, nobody really is

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LeftInTX

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26. She's too edgy. Obama was chill.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:38 AM
Jun 2019

Castro reminded me a bit of Obama last night.

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LovingA2andMI

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29. In The Age of Donald Trump....
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 02:15 AM
Jun 2019

It's High Time to be Edgy.....As the Chill with Trump has been taken COMPLETELY OUT OF THE ROOM. We need a Candidate for the Time we are in NOW and not 2008 or 2012.

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AlexSFCA

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30. she's been called female obama years ago
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 02:42 AM
Jun 2019

There are lots of similarities: both are biracial, west coast/ Hawaii, both are JD, both are junior senators, etc.etc.
In other words, you just won’t find anyone more similar to Obama than Harris. If there is one notable personal difference is that Harris does not have children of her own (stepchildren I believe) as she just married recently.

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