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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:42 PM Jun 2019

in order to win in 2020.. To rid ourselves from the Nightmare!

Last edited Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:05 PM - Edit history (1)

We need to do well in the Rustbelt States.. Ohio, Michigan, Penn. Indiana, at least 3 out of four.. The middle class salt of the earth...Hard working people, who don't have a lot of time to sit and watch a lot of coverage of the election.

And we took a real beating in the Appalachian States as well.

Joe Biden is the only candidate that I figure can appeal to the above States.
JoeBiden is not the brightest of the candidates and will make some mistakes.. But Joe represents the salt of the earth... A tough guy, but carries a lot of compassion.

Yea I think Harris, Warren and Buttichieg are a smart, cool, bunch.. But IMO Joe can capture more states than anyone of them... This is the only thing which counts.Go get em Joe!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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in order to win in 2020.. To rid ourselves from the Nightmare! (Original Post) busterbrown Jun 2019 OP
I agree, but he has GOT to kick it up a notch or two. Last night he did not do well. oldsoftie Jun 2019 #1
MSBNC reported last night that Biden staffers were complaining before that Biden was not preparing. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #5
He seemed to be worried about time. woodsprite Jun 2019 #6
Yes; it was almost like he was glad to see his time expire; while everyone else talked until stopped oldsoftie Jun 2019 #25
I felt he was on a leash. Stiff. As you say preoccupied by script and staying on message. An area emmaverybo Jun 2019 #27
That's exactly what I meant. Not that he was glad his time was up. nt woodsprite Jun 2019 #32
On the other hand... busterbrown Jun 2019 #15
I like that point of view oldsoftie Jun 2019 #24
I'll take it. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #28
Did anyone bother to ask the rust belt dwellers if wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #2
Dems need to appeal to the 80% of the voting population. empedocles Jun 2019 #3
So, only an older white man Bettie Jun 2019 #8
Elderly Son of a Bitch Warrior busterbrown Jun 2019 #17
My gosh, you definitely are a competitive debater. If Biden had you writing his stuff...win & win. N emmaverybo Jun 2019 #29
It's the same tired self-fulfilling prophecy they've been pushing MarcA Jun 2019 #19
An older white man didnt win in 08 or 12, so no, thats not the point. oldsoftie Jun 2019 #26
I guess that explains the NRA comment? gldstwmn Jun 2019 #34
Nope. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #9
Just Ask Hillary Clinton.. N/T busterbrown Jun 2019 #14
It's about his experience As V.P. busterbrown Jun 2019 #18
Harris did a pretty good job Andy823 Jun 2019 #21
Proved she could take down an old school white liberal male in a staged surprise attack emmaverybo Jun 2019 #30
Joe's the man calguy Jun 2019 #4
Indeed!! Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #7
Yep. It's all about the ... busterbrown Jun 2019 #20
Yep.. If anyone of my favorites after Joe busterbrown Jun 2019 #22
+1000. The price tag involved in the ultra-liberal wish list will be all they have to write...NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #31
Sanders and Biden both poll ahead of tRump in these states. CentralMass Jun 2019 #10
Come March, if that is still true, I'll vote for him in my primary. Hoyt Jun 2019 #11
Are the Appellation States in the Jurisdictional Mountain Ranges? Funtatlaguy Jun 2019 #12
Cross between Appeals, Horse, and an Apple busterbrown Jun 2019 #23
u got it, Joe's the guy who can rid us of this horrid stain on the world onetexan Jun 2019 #13
Appellation States ? Martin Eden Jun 2019 #16
President Obama won the Rust Belt. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #33
 

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
1. I agree, but he has GOT to kick it up a notch or two. Last night he did not do well.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:48 PM
Jun 2019

If his performance in the next debate equals last night, i'm afraid a slide will begin.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SunSeeker

(51,554 posts)
5. MSBNC reported last night that Biden staffers were complaining before that Biden was not preparing.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jun 2019

I'm guessing he will be more prepared next time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

woodsprite

(11,914 posts)
6. He seemed to be worried about time.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:55 PM
Jun 2019

He stopped talking on a dime most of the time compared to the other candidates. It didn’t seem like Joe being Joe. It seemed like an over-coached, restrained Joe. Just my opinion, and I have grown up with him being Delaware’s own, so have seen him at his best and worst.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
25. Yes; it was almost like he was glad to see his time expire; while everyone else talked until stopped
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 07:30 PM
Jun 2019

And it was very noticeable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
27. I felt he was on a leash. Stiff. As you say preoccupied by script and staying on message. An area
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 07:37 PM
Jun 2019

he does show real smarts in that will be hard to rival is his grasp of geo-political situation globally
and foreign affairs and policy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

woodsprite

(11,914 posts)
32. That's exactly what I meant. Not that he was glad his time was up. nt
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 11:58 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
15. On the other hand...
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:40 PM
Jun 2019

He can only get better... and he will... and that might even part of his strategy. Stay low early.. When the parade begins to rid the no hope candidates.. Then we'll hear from Joe in the manner which is real Joe..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
24. I like that point of view
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 07:29 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
2. Did anyone bother to ask the rust belt dwellers if
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jun 2019

Harris or Warren or Mayor Pete could win their vote.

So many DU experts speak for the rustbeltites

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
3. Dems need to appeal to the 80% of the voting population.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jun 2019

The bigger the margin, the more effective, 2021 could possibly be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bettie

(16,107 posts)
8. So, only an older white man
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:57 PM
Jun 2019

can possibly win....that is what you are saying when you say "appeal to 80% of the voting population" isn't it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
17. Elderly Son of a Bitch Warrior
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:06 PM
Jun 2019

if he has to be

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
29. My gosh, you definitely are a competitive debater. If Biden had you writing his stuff...win & win. N
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 07:40 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
19. It's the same tired self-fulfilling prophecy they've been pushing
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:15 PM
Jun 2019

since day one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
26. An older white man didnt win in 08 or 12, so no, thats not the point.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 07:31 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
34. I guess that explains the NRA comment?
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:05 AM
Jun 2019
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Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
9. Nope.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:01 PM
Jun 2019

They didn't even campaign here back in 2016.

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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
14. Just Ask Hillary Clinton.. N/T
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:17 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
18. It's about his experience As V.P.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:09 PM
Jun 2019

but more importantly it's his toughness.. Not to mention his V.P. experience..

Listen I love Harris, and Warren... But I just don't think they can beat Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
21. Harris did a pretty good job
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:20 PM
Jun 2019

Of proving she has what it takes last night. It's getting really old saying that only "one" candidate has a chance at beating trump, that's just BS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
30. Proved she could take down an old school white liberal male in a staged surprise attack
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 07:46 PM
Jun 2019

by confronting him with her pain and saying he had hurt her and thousands of “little girls” like her.

Trump has no empathy, no chivalry, and would have mugged the whole time or interrupted her
with nasty nicknames.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

calguy

(5,309 posts)
4. Joe's the man
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jun 2019

I think some of the more progressive ideas the other folks are putting out there, like "Green New Deal" and "Reparations" are big non starters in the general election. They may play well with a lot of liberal thinkers, but in the general they are toxic.
Joe is the one who can appeal to the largest group of voters hands down.
The reparations talk I heard last night just made me cringe in my seat. The R's will take that kind of talk and demonize it for all it's worth. I believe a vast majority of voters will be turned off by such a position. A losing proposition.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
20. Yep. It's all about the ...
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:16 PM
Jun 2019

.. Don't forget Nanny State Bullshit.. Lovers of illegals who murder and rape.. Losing your Doctor, etc. Joe can handle this bullshit easily... But if all things were equal.. I love Warren and Harris a bit less of my love to her

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
22. Yep.. If anyone of my favorites after Joe
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:35 PM
Jun 2019

We will be hearing slime and bullshit phrases like "Nanny States," "Liberals and Dems protect murderers who rape and plunder".. "Raising Taxes through the roof.". "and of course losing the your Md' I also agree that Reparations is a dangerous cliff. Although I do support the concept..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
31. +1000. The price tag involved in the ultra-liberal wish list will be all they have to write...NT
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 07:48 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
10. Sanders and Biden both poll ahead of tRump in these states.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:06 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. Come March, if that is still true, I'll vote for him in my primary.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:06 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,875 posts)
12. Are the Appellation States in the Jurisdictional Mountain Ranges?
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jun 2019

🤭
Spellcheck, I know...lol.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
23. Cross between Appeals, Horse, and an Apple
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:39 PM
Jun 2019

Look it up next time!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
13. u got it, Joe's the guy who can rid us of this horrid stain on the world
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:14 PM
Jun 2019

Go Joe!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Martin Eden

(12,867 posts)
16. Appellation States ?
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:45 PM
Jun 2019

Do you mean Appalachian?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
33. President Obama won the Rust Belt.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:04 AM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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