(CNN) Even after first debates, Joe Biden still holds a 20-point lead with black voters

[Skya Rhen]

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After getting attacked by Harris during the first Democratic debates over a number of racial issues (including busing), there was a real question as to whether Biden would be able to hold onto African American support.

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Despite all the press surrounding Harris' debate moment, she actually came in third among black voters (12%) behind Biden and Sanders (15%). Beyond South Carolina, other polling suggests that Harris still has work to do with black voters.

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Harris is still about 20 points behind Biden among black voters overall. In an average of four live interview national polls (ABC News/Washington Post, CNN/SSRS, NBC News/Wall Street Journal and Quinnipiac University) taken after the debate.

Biden's campaign is still largely being powered by black voters in a way Harris' campaign isn't. In the aforementioned same national polls, Biden does 17 points better among black voters than among white voters. That's very different than Harris, who does only 4 points better among black voters than white voters. It would be easy to say Biden's black voter base exists merely because he was Barack Obama's vice president. That certainly helps, but there's probably more to it than that. Biden's more moderate ideology compared to other leading Democratic presidential contenders gives him an edge with black voters, who are some of the most conservative voters in the Democratic coalition. He also does best with non-college graduates; more black voters than white voters lack a college degree.



https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/13/politics/joe-biden-leads-with-black-voters-analysis/index.html

[Scurrilous]

1. K&R

[Loki Liesmith]

2. Lol

[guillaumeb]

3. What factor does name recognition play? eom

[DownriverDem]

4. Well

we know Joe and it appears more folks like and want him. I sure do.

[TwilightZone]

10. Sanders has 100% name recognition.

So, apparently not as much as some seem to believe.

[oasis]

5. Weak gotcha attacks won't take Joe down. There's too much at stake

this time around. Democrats who seriously want Trump defeated know deep down inside Biden's our best chance to get it done.

[Gustafo]

6. What was the lead before?

30? 20? 10?

[StarfishSaver]

7. "After getting attacked by Harris"

Not "chided," "pushed back," "called out," "knocked" ...

Attacked.

As I've been saying ... https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287200714

[Vegas Roller]

8. "That little girl was me" was an epic fail in the long run n/t

[LakeArenal]

9. Yay!!!

Biden is also the most qualified nationally and especially globally.

[Kind of Blue]

11. South Carolina before the debate June 20th reported in South Carolina

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/in-south-carolina-biden-is-democrats-top-choice/

From your link, "Biden leads among black voters in the Palmetto State with 41%." That's a big drop in South Carolina in less than a month.

Nationally back around June 20th, again using CNN as the source, An average of our CNN polling in late April and late May shows Biden lapping the field among black voters with about 50%. Harris, Sanders and Warren were all between 5% and 10%. Biden's 40 point lead among black voters was more than double his about 15 point lead among white voters.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/22/politics/joe-biden-2020-black-voters-poll/index.html

Now, and finishing off a sentence left out in one of your paragraphs, Harris is still about 20 points behind Biden among black voters overall. In an average of four live interview national polls (ABC News/Washington Post, CNN/SSRS, NBC News/Wall Street Journal and Quinnipiac University) taken after the debate, Biden holds 39% of the black vote. Harris is in second place with 20%, which is only 5 points ahead of Sanders' 15%.

Statistics is not my strong point but surely even I can see that he has a comfortable but shrinking lead. Those are the trends that I look for and we're just getting started.

[Cha]

12. This is really Great to see, Skya.. Mahalo!

Biden's campaign is still largely being powered by black voters in a way Harris' campaign isn't

They know who Joe Biden is.. Harris isn't going to define him.

[Skya Rhen]

15. Mahalo, Cha!

[Cha]

16. Thank You!

[Turin_C3PO]

13. Good job Joe!

[helpisontheway]

14. Good! Try again Kamala..🙄 Nt

[Cha]

17. No doubt.