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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 12:23 AM Mar 2019

I know at this time I want Biden.

I however am not ashamed to say that as time goes on I may change my mind. If the person I end up voting for the first round does not make it to the final vote I will have absolutely no problem voting for the Democrat who is the final vote. I will not stray to a third or fourth or whatever party. I would also NEVER vote for ANY republican. How many feel the same as I do?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I know at this time I want Biden. (Original Post) Doreen Mar 2019 OP
I do. Except I don't think I'll change. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #1
Well good for you. It's nice knowing. I haven't made up my mind. rusty quoin Mar 2019 #2
hubby is so against Biden because of...I think Jon stewart TalenaGor Mar 2019 #3
You're half right DownriverDem Mar 2019 #11
Maybe Biden/Beto ...Harris/Beto Mazeltov Cocktail Mar 2019 #31
I respect that. herding cats Mar 2019 #4
Same here. Will vote for our dem candidate and hope it's Bernie onit2day Mar 2019 #5
Not Bernie DownriverDem Mar 2019 #9
Biden/Harris would be fantastic. Tipperary Mar 2019 #29
No one will DownriverDem Mar 2019 #10
Right on. Biden will be the next POTUS. I predict he will bring in fresh, young talent, WheelWalker Mar 2019 #6
Very close to the same way. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #7
Biden plus DownriverDem Mar 2019 #8
I thought at first Biden/Beto but Doreen Mar 2019 #12
Biden? I Hope NOT JGug1 Mar 2019 #13
Hill said 6 months ago that Biden owes her and the nation an apology. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #18
There are so many great candidates on the Democrat side right now patphil Mar 2019 #14
I dont think it matters as much this time. drray23 Mar 2019 #20
Trump will use age anyway, and the media will dutifully report it. marylandblue Mar 2019 #21
It Matters to Many McKim Mar 2019 #30
Run Biden, Run.. I want Biden to defend and expose the lies trump Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #15
I also like Biden a great deal Gothmog Mar 2019 #16
Why do you like Biden? NacLeeFF Mar 2019 #38
Biden is the most electable Democrat Gothmog Mar 2019 #39
NOT ON THE LIST homegirl Mar 2019 #17
NPR had Democratic zentrum Mar 2019 #19
I posted a piece on here about Biden a while back. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #25
Yes--That's it! Thank you zentrum Mar 2019 #28
I do not want Biden notinkansas Mar 2019 #22
At this time I know what I want and it is for Trump to be out office and in prison cstanleytech Mar 2019 #23
This primary doesn't seem to be generating quite the animosity we saw in 2016. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #24
I'm sorry, I like the man but he'll be 78 next year rickyhall Mar 2019 #26
Why is it ok to be biased against age? louis c Mar 2019 #27
very well said samnsara Mar 2019 #36
NOT BIASED AGAINST AGE rickyhall Mar 2019 #37
You state that you are not biased against age... louis c Mar 2019 #41
In my completely unscientific poll of my friends and acquaintances Politicub Mar 2019 #32
Biden/Harris could be a very feasible team. Totally Tunsie Mar 2019 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #34
EXACTLY! samnsara Mar 2019 #35
I do. I will support the winner of our primary unconditionally. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #40
Bernie! Madtown Mar 2019 #42
Uh huh... Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #43
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
1. I do. Except I don't think I'll change.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 12:56 AM
Mar 2019

Biden remains the most qualified both nationally and globally.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
2. Well good for you. It's nice knowing. I haven't made up my mind.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 01:07 AM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
3. hubby is so against Biden because of...I think Jon stewart
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:06 AM
Mar 2019

Several years ago there was a comedy clip on one of our shows .....daily show or something..... And it pieced together a bunch of pictures and video of Biden hugging young children and making jokes that he was overly interested in young children......

Now I tried to explain to hubby that that was a skit and it was for comedy and to let me know as soon as Biden has any charges brought against him lol cuz that ain't happening....

but sometimes I think our comedians need to remember that although they are embellishing certain things for the sake of comedy that's some people still believe it.....

That or my hubby could just think outside the box for a minute LOL

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
11. You're half right
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:21 PM
Mar 2019

Biden/Harris will be a formidable team.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mazeltov Cocktail

(569 posts)
31. Maybe Biden/Beto ...Harris/Beto
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:11 PM
Mar 2019

The Democrats have an embarrassment of riches from which to choose. . .
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
4. I respect that.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:14 AM
Mar 2019

I like Biden, but he doesn't hit all my bells and whistles, if I'm being honest. But, and this is a huge "but" here, my romance candidates feel much less romantic this round. I'm 100% about getting a Dem in office and looking at their actual electability on a national level. That's my litmus test this cycle.

In the end I'm supporting the big D candidate all the way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
5. Same here. Will vote for our dem candidate and hope it's Bernie
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 01:00 PM
Mar 2019

But now most all our candidates share Bernie's vision from 2016

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
9. Not Bernie
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:19 PM
Mar 2019

Biden/Harris

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
29. Biden/Harris would be fantastic.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:30 AM
Mar 2019

I like both.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
10. No one will
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:20 PM
Mar 2019

There is no such thing as purity in the Democratic Party. Biden/Harris

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
6. Right on. Biden will be the next POTUS. I predict he will bring in fresh, young talent,
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 01:24 PM
Mar 2019

reflective of the progressive energy surging in the Party. I can't imagine a better formula for victory, a national reconstruction and global reset.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
7. Very close to the same way.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 01:25 PM
Mar 2019

There is an exception for me though. Only 1.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
8. Biden plus
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:18 PM
Mar 2019

Biden leads in the polls. He can take it to trump and he will. Biden can win. If he runs with a strong progressive woman they will make a formidable team. How about Biden/Harris?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
12. I thought at first Biden/Beto but
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:58 PM
Mar 2019

I think Biden/Warren woul be good. He is more of a centerist Democrat and having a far on the left female vice would be good.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JGug1

(320 posts)
13. Biden? I Hope NOT
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:53 PM
Mar 2019

I had known that Biden had considerable baggage to answer for but not how much. I suggest that you take a look at Democracy Now! from this morning, March 13. What I knew was that he threw Anita Hill under a bus, refusing to allow the testimony of people who would have validated what she said. We wouldn't be saddled with one of the worst Supreme Court justices in history. But that turns out to not be near all. Yeah, I'll vote for him if he is nominated but he should not be nominated.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
18. Hill said 6 months ago that Biden owes her and the nation an apology.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:52 PM
Mar 2019

Will Biden apologize or double down? Time will tell.

And, yes, he's got a lot of other baggage. He's not the slam dunk candidate some imagine him to be. On top of the baggage, he's 76.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

patphil

(6,176 posts)
14. There are so many great candidates on the Democrat side right now
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:56 PM
Mar 2019

I like Joe Biden, but I think the door has closed on him, and Bernie Sanders, as far as the presidency is concerned.
Biden would be 78 and Sanders 79 when they would be sworn in. Too old in my book to start a term as president.
Elizabeth Warren would be 71, and that is about as old as I would like a new president to be.
With all the young, dynamic Democrats out there, I would much rather see fresh young faces leading the charge in the 2020 election.
I remember Ronald Regan had serious health issues in his second term (alzheimer's) and he was younger than either Joe or Bernie would be when he was elected.
The job of president is very challenging...and I don't mean the back 9 at Mar-a-Lago.
It takes a lot out of a person to do that job. Unless, of course, you aren't doing much more than eating, golfing, and tweeting.
In any event, I will support whoever the party picks.
For the record, I'm going to be 73 this year, and I know how much age takes away from your ability to work hard as the years pile up.

Patrick Phillips

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

drray23

(7,627 posts)
20. I dont think it matters as much this time.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:12 PM
Mar 2019

Trump is old as well and in far worse health than any of our candidates. If Biden is the nominee for example, he can just choose a younger vp like Harris and trump wont be able to use age as an attack line anyway.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
21. Trump will use age anyway, and the media will dutifully report it.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 09:01 PM
Mar 2019

His attacks don't have to make sense. What matters is whether Biden responds effectively or not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

McKim

(2,412 posts)
30. It Matters to Many
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:24 AM
Mar 2019

Respectfully, please remember that Joe Biden supported the War on Iraq. This was hugely unpopular. We need a candidate who will funnel the money we waste on wars to a better use to help our own people. 9/11 was the end of The Peace Dividend!!!!! We need to wrest those trillions from the Military Industrial Complex to benefit your average person. We need the same benefits as people in Western Europe get!!!! A million Iraqis died in the war and we have massive refugee movement to Europe. I would find it very difficult to vote for a war advocate since my brother in law died in Vietnam for a lie!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
15. Run Biden, Run.. I want Biden to defend and expose the lies trump
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:54 PM
Mar 2019

has been telling about the economic successes begun under the Obama/Biden administration. I want Joe to go head to head with the dotard on his foreign policy disasters and the messes he has made with our allies and foes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
16. I also like Biden a great deal
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:12 PM
Mar 2019

I may well end up supporting him. I also like Booker, Beto, and Harris

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NacLeeFF

(89 posts)
38. Why do you like Biden?
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:02 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
39. Biden is the most electable Democrat
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:20 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

homegirl

(1,429 posts)
17. NOT ON THE LIST
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:36 PM
Mar 2019

But should be:

ADAM SCHIFF

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
19. NPR had Democratic
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:15 PM
Mar 2019

...pundits talking this morning about Biden. They said his past is a problem and will come back to haunt. For instance:

>His opposition to busing in the days when school segregation was still how it was done. He teamed up with Strom Thurmond ( a notorious segregationist) of all people---to oppose busing.

>His treatment of Anita Hill, especially as it appears today with Me Too awareness. Can you imagine the TV clips they'll show about this? He was really awful to her.

>Stuff he did to help Banksters get away with millions and no jail time after the financial collapse of 2008. But I was only half listening and didn't get the details.

Of course I'll vote for any Democrat over all Repugs but I do think this guy's time is past. I think the party has moved on and has had to move on because the Republican party is now so extreme, non-tradional and dangerous. The old ways of oppposing aren't strong enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatrickforO

(14,573 posts)
25. I posted a piece on here about Biden a while back.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:59 AM
Mar 2019

Some of the comments were quite good. One person said, essentially, that was then and this is now. Another suggested Biden may have 'evolved' past some of the things and would be different now. Another still pointed out how Warren at one time was a Republican.

If Biden goes deep in the primaries, I'm going to be among those pressuring him and his campaign, rightly, to work to reverse the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005. Joe Biden was one of the first Democratic supporters of the bill and voted for it four times until it finally passed in March 2005. He voted against amendments to the bill that would have helped people forced into bankruptcy by big medical bills, and that would have forced credit card companies to give people more warning about the financial consequences of only paying the minimum.

So, as they say in football, if he goes deep in the primaries, he'd better bloody well do a U-Turn on that stink-bomb of a law. I won't withhold my vote - I have never, and would never do that - but until he makes that commitment, he doesn't have my full support.

I can see him evolving on sexism like he did on gay marriage - that's ok. But the BAPCPA? That requires action toward repeal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
28. Yes--That's it! Thank you
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:18 AM
Mar 2019

...on that information about the BAPCPA.

I think that's huge and you can't just do a u-turn, since the damage done to people then changed their lives forever and is still having an effect on them, even if they are doing better now than in '05 or '08. If you lost a house or your kid's college education or couldn't pay a medical bill---you don't forgive.

If a politician "evolves" on too many issues that were really big---he/she come off just looking like someone who will say anything and has no deep guiding rudder. That worries me, especially when we're facing what we face now. We need a candidate people can feel real trust in.

Joe's a nice working class guy who rode the train to work--but the record is problematic, to me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
22. I do not want Biden
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:17 AM
Mar 2019

but I will absolutely vote for the democratic candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
23. At this time I know what I want and it is for Trump to be out office and in prison
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:35 AM
Mar 2019

so honestly I do not care who we run.
What we need to really focus on is avoiding a repeat of being butt hurt if whatever candidate we might personally support does not win the nomination and instead we support whoever is the final choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatrickforO

(14,573 posts)
24. This primary doesn't seem to be generating quite the animosity we saw in 2016.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:47 AM
Mar 2019

I feel the same way. Most candidates, but for two, being treated with respect. I'm for Warren at this point. I was for Bernie, strongly, in 2016. I've seen a lot of people here very negative for him, and for Tulsi Gabbard.

But, we'll see how everything shakes out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
26. I'm sorry, I like the man but he'll be 78 next year
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:55 AM
Mar 2019

I'm tired old men running the country

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
27. Why is it ok to be biased against age?
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:48 AM
Mar 2019

In today's day and age, the age of an individual is different than it was 30 or 40 years ago.

I'm 66 years old and still do my job in an effective way. Even though I'm a union appointee, I am still an employee at will.

Yesterday, I was on a negotiating team with a 28 year old agent. We brought home one of the best contracts for the workers that has ever been approved. I like to think (and my partner agreed) that my experience brought value to the negotiation.

Biden will have a Vice-President. He can choose someone who brings other attributes to the ticket and the administration. They will work well together. I refuse to criticize any Democrat running for the nomination, because one of them will be nominated and that person must defeat Trump.

Excuse me if I'm offended by anyone who says that an individual should not be considered just because of his or her age.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
36. very well said
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:18 PM
Mar 2019

...I totally agree.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
37. NOT BIASED AGAINST AGE
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:36 PM
Mar 2019

I'm 63 godammit and I know I'm not as good at anything I once was. No one is. Raygun fell into dementia, Trump is falling into dementia, and by 2024 Vice President Biden will be 10 years older than Trump is now. It's simple practicality. It's why people retire. Besides that I've seen no real progress in this country since 1980, except for technology & civil rights. In fact, I consider 1969, the year of the moon landing, the peak of American culture and it has been down hill ever since. Now had Robert Kennedy not been murdered & the criminal party not retaken the Whitehouse things might have been different. But things didn't happen that way did they.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
41. You state that you are not biased against age...
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:17 AM
Mar 2019

...then go on to explain why you are biased against age.

I am not what I once was, either. I'm better. My experience brings a dimension to my work that is valuable in what I do.

But, please, don't say you are not biased against age. Just substitute the word minority or woman into your statement, and hear how that sounds.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
32. In my completely unscientific poll of my friends and acquaintances
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:32 PM
Mar 2019

Most are for Biden, too. The Gen Z, VERY politically active daughter of one of my friends is pro-Biden. She has met him and heard him speak in person. She evangelizes for him at college.

A lot of people, including me, are longing for a return to the normalcy of the Obama administration. Biden was part of that wonderful period in our history. It is clear to me why people like him; he has the advantage of the halo effect.

I would be enthusiastically on-board with Biden should he win the nom.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
33. Biden/Harris could be a very feasible team.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:20 PM
Mar 2019

I could easily get behind that pairing as a favorite. In any event, Harris should most certainly be half of the Dem team, in any order that works.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Doreen (Original post)

 

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
35. EXACTLY!
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:16 PM
Mar 2019

..I am all for Biden and cross my fingers and toes he chooses Senator Harris as VEEP...but I will pinky promise to vote for the DEM.. no matter..even if i plug my nose- i will vote for THE dem candidate come hell or high water.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. I do. I will support the winner of our primary unconditionally. nt
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:04 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eliot Rosewater

(31,111 posts)
43. Uh huh...
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:04 PM
Mar 2019

God DAMMIT I wish I could


god DAMMIT

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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