Joe Biden tears into Cory Booker and criticizes Kamala D. Harris as well in a shift to aggressively

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Joe Biden tears into Cory Booker and criticizes Kamala D. Harris as well in a shift to aggressively counter his challengers 

By Chelsea Janes and David Weigel and Washington Post 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-biden-tears-into-cory-booker-and-criticizes-kamala-d-harris-as-well-in-a-shift-to-aggressively-counter-his-challengers/2019/07/24/8cbf21f0-ae30-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html?utm_term=.827456e7fe8d 

"SNIP...... 

Cory knows that’s not true, number one. Number two, you know the significant portion of the incarceration that occurred before the crime bill was written,” Biden told reporters before taking a shot at police practices during Booker’s tenure. 

“His police department was stopping and frisking people, mostly African American men,” he said, leading the Obama administration to intercede. “We took action against them; the Justice Department took action against them, held the police department accountable. 

“He objected to federal interference. If he wants to go back and talk about records, I’m happy to do that. But I’d rather talk about the future .?.?. I challenge him or anyone else to tell me how he has a better plan than I have for moving from here.” 

..... 


“Since next week’s debate format will give Senator Booker twice as much time to make his attacks than it allows Vice President Biden to respond to them, we thought we would begin to respond now,” Bedingfield wrote. She then outlined Booker’s support for Newark’s police enforcement of a “zero tolerance policy” for minor infractions in 2006, as well as the department’s reliance on “stop and frisk” treatment of residents, a practice that has long been condemned by Democrats and civil rights activists. 


......SNIP" 

[Cha]

1. Yes, Biden had to respond to Booker

with Facts.. he couldn't leave that hanging..

Link to tweet

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287211257

Mahalo, apple

[ucrdem]

5. Ouch.

That's gonna sting.

[Cha]

6. Truth Bomb.

It's weird.. The attacker gets twice as much time as the responder so no wonder Team Biden is tweeting this out NOW!

[ucrdem]

7. Yep. Good strategy. Otherwise the pundits would say he wasn't prepared.

Or he plagiarized. Or he looked old. Or whatever, they'll come up with something ridiculous I'm sure. But "not prepared" won't fly this time.

[Cha]

8. Yeah, the pundits.. they have an agenda..

nothing to do with reality so much of the time.

I wonder who they'd like to see their cash cow trump run against in the GE? It might get more obvious as the time gets nearer.

[Cha]

11. P.S.

I'm wondering what makes Booker think he can get away with these kind of attacks?

[ucrdem]

12. It appears he and Harris are working as a team.

Who knows what Cory thinks he's going to get from it but I imagine they've discussed it.

[Cha]

13. Wow... has that ever been

done before?

Coordinated attacks on the front runner from two rivals... then there's BS with his "sounds like trump" rhetoric.

I hope he beats them all.

[ucrdem]

14. I don't remember there ever being 20 candidates in two televised debates

18 months before an election. So I think we're in uncharted territory. And the thing about coordination is that ranked-choice voting encourages it, and the media reward it. So that's new territory too, and not necessarily a bad thing, although in this case, well, I'll just say that I think many of us share the same opinion of this tactic!

[Cha]

15. lol.. oh yeah!

Can you imagine the Biden Team debate prep?! Love to be a spider on that wall.

Thanks, ucr

[Kahuna7]

16. Absolutely they are. However, it will not be a good look for

Harris and Booker who will be positioned on either side of Biden to double team him with race attacks.

[samnsara]

26. it didnt look very good the first time around....

..it certainly changed my opinion of a cpl candidates.

[mcar]

24. Proof of that?

This is baseless speculation.

[ucrdem]

25. Don't get excited. I said "appears."

In any case, senators are supposed to work together. It's not a crime to coordinate campaigns either though in this case I think the effort is ill-advised.

[qazplm135]

30. So you think

The two AA candidates are working together because?
It's ridiculous baseless speculation.

[ucrdem]

33. Because they both demanded an apology and then refused to accept it

for something that they were clearly misinterpreting in bad faith. Yes, that is my opinion. This is a discussion board and we're discussing politics. Your opinion might be different.

[qazplm135]

34. It's an opinion

With zero basis in fact, but sure you are free to have those and I'm free to call it ridiculous and baseless.

[ucrdem]

35. Have you followed the campaigns by any chance? Or the news? Or their statements?

If not you'll find them instructive.

[ucrdem]

36. Facts:

Kamala Harris stops short of fully accepting Joe Biden's apology:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/07/politics/kamala-harris-joe-biden-segregationist-senators-apology-busing/index.html

Sen. Cory Booker 'frustrated' Biden apology took so long:

http://590kid.com/sen-cory-booker-frustrated-biden-apology-took-so-long-but-ultimately-grateful/

[qazplm135]

37. So

Nothing then.

[ucrdem]

38. You're welcome.

[LanternWaste]

44. A line which can be consistently applied to every post on every message board.

"It's ridiculous baseless speculation."

A line which can be consistently applied to every post on every message board.

[qazplm135]

45. no not really

plenty of speculation is informed, based on reasonable supposition and evidence.

That...was not.

[onetexan]

9. Well done team Biden

Thanks Cha

[Cha]

10. Yes, Fight 'em

with Facts!

You're Welcome, onetexan.. Thank You!

[EveHammond13]

2. I'm wondering what they expected

[samir.g]

3. Glad he's not taking it laying down

[ucrdem]

4. The headline makes it overly personal, but what can you expect.

It looks like his campaign is responding in a very adult way to very inept attacks DIRECTLY from Booker. So yeah Cory, what's up with that zero tolerance policy in crime-capital Newark New Joisey?

[Kahuna7]

18. Booker has been sniping at Biden on Twitter for several weeks now...

and team Biden knows it.

[samnsara]

27. i used to respect cory

[Tarheel_Dem]

60. I did too, but that was pre Rosario Dawson.

[JustAnotherGen]

17. He HAS to do this

I predict next week will be another sideshow spectacle. Zero moderation, moderators speaking more than the candidates, no mics cut, etc etc

If Booker pulls a Harris with a "I was that kid" it's b.s. He grew up across the street from my former boss/mentor in a very nice area of NJ.

[samnsara]

28. again im not watching it. my ulcers cant take it. didnt watch mueller yesterday either..

..and it turned out exactly the way I thought it would

[Tipperary]

19. Good response from Biden.

[Gothmog]

20. Yeah for Joe

[oasis]

21. Sadly, I have lost respect for Cory Booker. nt

[Skya Rhen]

22. +1,000,000

[Hachetman]

23. Booker

I have never been a fan of his for some odd reason.

[samnsara]

29. :( i just posted the same thing. I always liked him.

[oasis]

40. I guess Booker isn't aware of how Russia can use this on social media

against Biden in the 2020 G.E. to suppress AA turnout. It's been documented that Hillary's 2016 vote count fell short in communities of color, partially because of Russiabot infection.

Democrats can't afford to lose any votes in 2020.

[mainstreetonce]

32. I agree I really liked him

Although I never thought he could win against Trump.
Now I have no use for him and I hope he is gone quickly.

[oasis]

41. Booker risk being responsible for the dampening of AA voter enthusiasm

in the 2020 General Election if Biden gets the nomination.

[silentEcho]

43. I want to talk about past political positions. I have learned a lot listening

to all the discussion with all the candidates. People certainly went after Harris being an AG. Booker and pharmaceutical. I listened to the argument and put it in a place where I am good with them on the issue. The same with Biden conversation on segregation in the 70's. Biden tripped a couple times and was called out. That conversation is important.

I have a real problem with when a candidate speaks out and the supporters are unable to handle that and end up with a "real disappointment" in a candidate. I have a tough time understanding that.

[oasis]

46. It seems Cory isn't fully informed on what was going on in AA

communities at the time of 1994 crime bill. Local leaders were pleading for relief from the overwhelming amount of gang violence and drug dealing that plagued THEIR neighborhoods.

Home invasions, drive by shootings, armed robbery, assaults, witness intimidations were running rampant.

Legislators were obligated to address the needs of law abiding citizens, many who were VICTIMS.

And just now, decades later, Cory Booker arrives on the national scene to register his Johhny-Come-Lately outrage.

[silentEcho]

47. I agree. I think we need that conversation.

I talked about that time and exactly what you are stating with a Millennial. Now, he did acknowledge that but still said that Biden/Clinton/Sanders knew what would happen. I think as a party, we need to have a discussion like adults and not like reality tv.

[oasis]

49. AA communities were desperate for a remedy. There was no

perfect solution at the time. It's very easy for those who sat the sidelines to criticize legislators who had to use the tools available to them. Their mandate was to sharply reduce crime in the communities and bring down the victim rate.

I believe a community college course on the subject would be helpful.

[silentEcho]

50. It is also very easy for those that were just being born in the 90's that are now voting.

I agree. We have the Millennial leading this conversation from a position of ignorance, not having been conceptualized yet, lol. Then having Sanders using their lack of knowledge and information to paint the Democratic Party as no different than the Republican party. We need to educate, hence having that conversation.

[oasis]

51. You support an impressive candidate in E.W.. To her

credit, she knows what she's talking about before she goes shooting her mouth off.

[silentEcho]

52. Yes she does. Warren was not my first. I was more on board with Harris and still respect her tons.

It would be so easy for me to back her, too. Warren though was being talked about by a politically aware 22 yr old woman. She was jazzed by her for all the right reasons. She was a strong HRC supporter in 2016. But, she started talking to me about all Warrens plan. I started sending her the stuff that Warren was saying, and the good coverage. In doing, I came to the position that I am really liking her ability to plainly speak truth without coddling people, yet not negative with fellow Dems. A team player. I am liking Warren more and more for different reasons. I didn't start with HRC either. But by the end, what an opportunity she was for this nation. I still am impressed with HRC's voice after what happened in 2016. Strong women.

[emmaverybo]

54. 100 percent true. Law abiding victims in predominantly AA neighborhoods were calling for a

tough on crime approach from law enforcement and the justice system.

They felt that white America dismissed their communities because whites were not the victims of the surge in drug-related violent crime, which involved all the activities you point out including gang recruitment, car jackings, sexual crimes, and most at the point of guns. In fact, police were out-armed.

Booker also will not point to some very good parts of the crime bill—strong gun control, penalties for hate crimes, the Violence Against Women Act; and billions in appropriations for crime prevention, drug deterrence courts, and community policing.

[oasis]

55. Hopefully the mangling of facts on this issue won't cause potential

voters to sit out the General Election. In GE 2016, Hillary's polling numbers in the AA community took a hit because of the spread of similar disinformation.

[Marengo]

31. How long before he's condemned as a racist for daring to defend himself? Or has that already...

Happened?

[ecstatic]

39. I believe Cory still has a chance, but he will blow it

if he goes on that stage and focuses any of his energy on Biden.

Tell us your platform, your major goals and day 1 plan. Show us your personality. How will you deal with repubs? Are you for outright legalization of marijuana? What is your police reform plan? Death penalty plan? Secure elections plan?That's what I want to hear.

I don't want to see unfair attacks. Do not insult my intelligence or try to manipulate my emotions by painting Biden as the racist mastermind behind mass incarceration. Don't distort history to score points. We're intelligent enough to make an assessment on Biden and everyone else. And, please, no more awkward Spanish!

[silentEcho]

42. I have no problem Biden challenging, nor Booker or Harris. I do have issue calling a Dem Trump like.

A primary goes after differences. For me this is normal primary debate and I had a real issue Biden supporters going after Harris and Booker. I thought it petty. I have no problem Biden addressing this.

I do have issue going after the whole Democratic party stating we are as bad as Republicans or are just like Trump. Or call a candidate a liar for disagreeing positions. That is over the line and where the pledge needs to come into play.

[MarcA]

53. At DU IOKIYABS. n/t

[Tarheel_Dem]

48. Cory would like nothing better than to get into a back & forth with the frontrunner. He's...

calculated that it would raise his profile. I think he's wrong.

[melman]

56. What about that pledge everyone was so concerned about?

Not important now? Interesting.

[Baclava]

58. Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth, lol

He has to know they will come at him swinging from all sides

[melman]

59. I don't fault him here

It's the reality of campaigning.

I just find it amusing that some of the biggest proponents of 'the pledge' are in this thread talking about how wonderful it is. But obviously they never cared about the pledge in the first place. Just used it as an excuse to bash.

[MoonRiver]

57. Wow things are getting real!