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demmiblue

(36,871 posts)
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:44 PM Mar 2019

MSNBC: Is Mike Pence an honorable man? @SenWarren: No.

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MSNBC: Is Mike Pence an honorable man?

@SenWarren: No.

MSNBC: Want to explain?

WARREN: "Anyone who engages in the kind of homophobia and attacks on people who are different from himself is not an honorable person. That's not what honorable people do."



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MSNBC: Is Mike Pence an honorable man? @SenWarren: No. (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 2019 OP
K&R ! Kurt V. Mar 2019 #1
She nailed that. Funtatlaguy Mar 2019 #2
Maybe, maybe not. demmiblue Mar 2019 #5
Some might say Warren has enough of her own R B Garr Mar 2019 #7
apologizing for what? Buzz cook Mar 2019 #10
It was all over the news, and I'm not going to waste time R B Garr Mar 2019 #12
Humor me. I would like to know also rurallib Mar 2019 #13
How did you miss all the threads here on her profuse R B Garr Mar 2019 #14
I do not spend all day on here. I do not read every post rurallib Mar 2019 #15
Sorry, I thought you being facetious. It was literally all R B Garr Mar 2019 #18
CNN, Washington Post, CNBC, New York Times, etc R B Garr Mar 2019 #19
Wasn't that easier Buzz cook Mar 2019 #21
I thought they were being facetious. My bad. R B Garr Mar 2019 #22
There was no "rage typing". Someone missing a major news R B Garr Mar 2019 #29
So once again Buzz cook Mar 2019 #16
What doesn't bode well is pretending that a major news cycle R B Garr Mar 2019 #17
I did a site search and a google search. Buzz cook Mar 2019 #20
No you cherry picked and omitted the child support payments R B Garr Mar 2019 #23
Because I've been a democrat for many years Buzz cook Mar 2019 #27
LOL, what contortions. Read my post 7 again. R B Garr Mar 2019 #28
LOL, put in Democratic Underground in your search R B Garr Mar 2019 #24
Note how you are not the one "staying focused" here. R B Garr Mar 2019 #30
Have a good life nt. Buzz cook Mar 2019 #31
You too. I won't be missing the patronizing personal R B Garr Mar 2019 #32
I must have missed all the apologizing too. Tipperary Mar 2019 #34
Good answer Liz. comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #3
And Senator Warren didn't miss a beat. GWC58 Mar 2019 #4
Love her answer! Ohiogal Mar 2019 #6
Hell no, he's not. Turin_C3PO Mar 2019 #8
And Anyone Who Sycophantically Kisses Ass to a Criminal and Woefully Incompetent President panfluteman Mar 2019 #9
and a two faced hypocrite LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #11
The way Pence gazes at Trump makes Nancy Reagan's goo-goo eyes ... 11 Bravo Mar 2019 #25
Great! BadgerMom Mar 2019 #26
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #33
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,884 posts)
2. She nailed that.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:50 PM
Mar 2019

Biden will too next time if he gets a do over

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R B Garr

(16,957 posts)
7. Some might say Warren has enough of her own
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:30 PM
Mar 2019

do overs to worry about. She was just on the news a couple weeks ago apologizing all over the place.

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Buzz cook

(2,474 posts)
10. apologizing for what?
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:22 PM
Mar 2019

Afaik she apologized for the misconceptions being fostered about her DNA tests. What else has she apologized for?

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R B Garr

(16,957 posts)
12. It was all over the news, and I'm not going to waste time
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:34 PM
Mar 2019

with your cherry picking again. Your description is lacking.

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rurallib

(62,432 posts)
13. Humor me. I would like to know also
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:37 PM
Mar 2019
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R B Garr

(16,957 posts)
14. How did you miss all the threads here on her profuse
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:39 PM
Mar 2019

apologies? How did you miss all the news on her profuse apologies? Let me know.

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rurallib

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15. I do not spend all day on here. I do not read every post
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:42 PM
Mar 2019

I do not know of Senator Warren apologizing for much of anything other than that ridiculous DNA bullshit, if that was an apology.

So thanks for the non-answer. I guess it is time to make use of the ignore function again.

Sorry I asked.

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R B Garr

(16,957 posts)
18. Sorry, I thought you being facetious. It was literally all
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:48 PM
Mar 2019

over the news. I mostly watch cable. I’m not going to link to multiple news shows when it is easily Google-able.

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R B Garr

(16,957 posts)
19. CNN, Washington Post, CNBC, New York Times, etc
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:53 PM
Mar 2019

I just Googled it. There were thousands of sites. It was a major news cycle. I googled Elizabeth Warren apologizes and “Cherokee” auto completed so I googled that.

Sorry, phone typing so can’t link,

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Buzz cook

(2,474 posts)
21. Wasn't that easier
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:55 PM
Mar 2019

Than all the rage typing?

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R B Garr

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22. I thought they were being facetious. My bad.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:02 PM
Mar 2019

The only thing is that most of the same outlets cover the major news cycles, and the cycles last for days.

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R B Garr

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29. There was no "rage typing". Someone missing a major news
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:56 AM
Mar 2019

cycle doesn’t mean the rest of us didn’t see it.

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Buzz cook

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16. So once again
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:43 PM
Mar 2019

You don't present evidence for your assertions. That doesn't bode well for your communication ability.

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R B Garr

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17. What doesn't bode well is pretending that a major news cycle
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:46 PM
Mar 2019

never occurred.

Same as with truncating only portions of a bill that match a “progressive” site that promotes the trash that Dems are just like Republicans,

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Buzz cook

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20. I did a site search and a google search.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:53 PM
Mar 2019

References to the DNA test were all I found. Is this what you meant? If so then typing DNA apology would have cost you less time and energy than what you've done so far.

I posted evidence in that thread that supported my position, you did not. The same is true in this thread. You make empty assertions.

But lets be clear each argument is a thing unto itself. If you bring up old news all you do is muddy the current situation. Its just poor argumentation.

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R B Garr

(16,957 posts)
23. No you cherry picked and omitted the child support payments
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:08 PM
Mar 2019

and who that benefitted. Think about it. Even the DMV will suspend your license and your professional licenses can be suspended for non payment of child support. Look it up, start with DMV deadbeat dad and you will see all kinds of links. Why should someone be able to run to courts to discharge their child support.

Why don’t you just admit that you were more invested in the fallacy that Dems are just like Republicans that those “progressive” sites like to promote? That looks like what was really going on.

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Buzz cook

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27. Because I've been a democrat for many years
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:59 AM
Mar 2019

I know that the two parties are not alike and never have been. Since the turn of the last century when the republicans drove out the progressives, the only party worth belonging to has been the democratic party. You're talking to someone else that has gotten in your head as far as that's concerned.

The bankruptcy bill of 2005 was another thread. Keep focused.

Now as to Warren and the apology, now that you've admitted that it was only about the DNA test, I think she was wrong to apologize. That is except for not making clear that she wasn't claiming membership in a tribe or having a high enough percent of Amerind DNA to be considered ethnically American Indian.

This is similar to when Hillary Clinton had to apologize for having a personal server. Her problem wasn't the server; it was innot realizing that her political enemies would make bogus claims about her having that server.

What are your own beliefs about Warren's apology? Do you believe that she had evil intent or that she was claiming minority status?

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R B Garr

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28. LOL, what contortions. Read my post 7 again.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:45 AM
Mar 2019

It said she was apologizing all over the place, which she was. I never “admitted it was only about the DNA test”. You should quit patronizing.

Everyone who interviewed her asked about it, and she was apologizing. Now you are trying to make it about some ridiculous sidebar over DNA and requests for a bunch of links as if she is apologizing over DNA isn’t really an apology and it somehow mitigates that she was apologizing.

Then you tell me to “stay focused”.

Another poster noticed your source in another thread about the bankruptcy bill, and it was a noted “progressive” site. Usually they distill info into repeatable sound bytes but they are biased and a huge and familiar bias is the phony mantra that Dems are just like Republicans. You should go back and read what you write about Biden...ahem. That’s also when you omitted the child support payments part of the bill because those “progressive” sites only talk about their favorite buzzwords...corporations , Dems are the same as Republicans...blah blah

Quit with the revisionist history!

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R B Garr

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24. LOL, put in Democratic Underground in your search
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:12 PM
Mar 2019

I found some links right away. I’m on a phone here and I can find this stuff, no problem, just can’t link.

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R B Garr

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30. Note how you are not the one "staying focused" here.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:57 AM
Mar 2019

You bring up unfinished biases on another thread and you tell me to “stay focused”.

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Buzz cook

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31. Have a good life nt.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:05 AM
Mar 2019

.

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R B Garr

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32. You too. I won't be missing the patronizing personal
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:32 AM
Mar 2019

attacks or self-proclaimed victories over me.

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Tipperary

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34. I must have missed all the apologizing too.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:45 AM
Mar 2019

All i can find is the DNA story.

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GWC58

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4. And Senator Warren didn't miss a beat.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:58 PM
Mar 2019

No pause, no deep breath, just “NO.” 👍🏻

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Turin_C3PO

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8. Hell no, he's not.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:33 PM
Mar 2019

He’s a despicable bigot. Good answer from Warren.

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panfluteman

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9. And Anyone Who Sycophantically Kisses Ass to a Criminal and Woefully Incompetent President
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:01 PM
Mar 2019

Is not an honorable person.

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LiberalLovinLug

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11. and a two faced hypocrite
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:27 PM
Mar 2019

as someone who claims to have a fast track to Jesus.

Someone who lays claim to the Ten Commandments but excuses his boss, the one who picked him, for breaking half of them.

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11 Bravo

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25. The way Pence gazes at Trump makes Nancy Reagan's goo-goo eyes ...
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:21 PM
Mar 2019

at Ronnie look like an icy glare.

Fucking creepy, is what it is!

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BadgerMom

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26. Great!
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:36 PM
Mar 2019

I’m sick of pussyfooting around the immorality of the opposition.

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Uncle Joe

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33. Kicked and recommended.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:18 AM
Mar 2019

Thanks for the thread demmiblue.

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