Jimmy Kimmel on Democratic Debate

[TexasTowelie]

[Rhiannon12866]

1. K&R! Thanks for posting - very funny!

That was an SNL sketch, a serious journalist (Adam Sandler) accidentally used one of those "filters!"

And I appreciate his views of Trump. I might actually be able to stand watching him on the news if someone then made fun of every ridiculous thing he said!

[Hortensis]

2. "Bernie always looks as if he's hittin' every button in the elevator at once."

Impatiently. I imagine it's the strain of being surrounded by liberal Democrats for 30 years. Everything looks like them now.

("I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat." Yes, we know.)

[NurseJackie]

3. It's a very distracting and annoying habit.

"Bernie always looks as if he's hittin' every button in the elevator at once."

It's a very distracting and annoying habit.

("I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat." Yes, we know.)

[Hortensis]

4. Notice how so many of the media deliberately call HIM liberal

and the rest of our Democrats "centrists" or "moderates"? Practically DINOs, not even centrist liberals or centrist Democrats, which itself would be serious deception when so many have always been ideologically well to the left side of the liberal spectrum. I take that toxic distortion as indication of hostile agenda whenever I see it.

But it has to be part of why poor Sanders is so frequently cranky also, bless his heart. He's despised liberal Democrats all his life, and lets us know it one way or another virtually every day;
but the MSM's spinning him as the face of Democratic liberalism furthers his agenda also.

[empedocles]

5. I suggest, 'pragmatists' have the best shot to actually win, and win big, the general election.

As an example, single payer makes good policy sense - but not political sense in 2020.

Just suggestin'.

[Hortensis]

7. Our nominee will be a liberal Democrat. That person should

always be both idealistic and pragmatic (i.e., commited to what is genuinely achievable) because they are both necessary to serving the people, including to advancing our nation's wellbeing as part of meeting big challenges.

Democratic voters have always, in a general collective wisdom (which I have belatedly come to believe exists), wanted both.

That's why Sanders won't win, idealism without proven achievement or ability. It's why Warren is doing as well as she is, in spite of RW efforts to destroy her for the past 8 years and more: idealism combined with proven achievement.

It's why candidates who present themselves pragmatically, who speak only of how their policy is better than another's, but without the lift of speaking often to ideals and aspiration, won't win. Of the candidates last night, only one really spoke to ideals, who we need to be as a people: Beto O'Rourke. But he lacks a pragmatic record of achievement and he won't win.

Tonight, Biden will almost certainly once again speak to both. Aspirations and ideals are the central theme of his campaign.

CNN will invite (compel) the others, Harris and Booker notably vying for the black monolith, to break out by attacking-defending, but if they go with that debate-forced compulsion, one or more may rise in the polls somewhat compared to the rest of the second and third tiers, but imo without calling for and identifying with liberal Democratic ideals that candidate will actually have lost.

We'll see.

[empedocles]

8. Nice post. Thank you.

[Hortensis]

11. :) We definitely agree political sense is necessary to win.

Of course if we tried to sell that "wisdom," we wouldn't make a penny. Most don't need it, the rest already bought something else.

[empedocles]

12. We agree

[Cha]

6. lol

[empedocles]

9. ' . . . and stay off my damn grass!' - lol

[ehrnst]

10. LOL.

That's spot on.