Democratic Primaries

still_one

(92,219 posts) Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:28 PM Jul 2019

Anyone who thinks that bashing President Obama will elevate their f**king standings, won't get my

vote in the primaries

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Anyone who thinks that bashing President Obama will elevate their f**king standings, won't get my (Original Post) still_one Jul 2019 OP

No tv. Who did that? silentEcho Jul 2019 #1

That idiot DeBlasio oldsoftie Jul 2019 #4

Ty. Sounds like lots going on with this debate. silentEcho Jul 2019 #5

DeBlasio brought up the Obama administration's record on deportations. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #8

Declaring the whole.obama administration off limits Lordquinton Jul 2019 #11

I think there are clear differences today and that conversation needs to be had. silentEcho Jul 2019 #15

It was also the law, and the President followed it. He also tried to help the DREAMERS. oldsoftie Jul 2019 #18

Just saying, "It's the law" is a terrible excuse. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #22

So you take it to court, or you change it. If we pick & choose the ones we like, we become trump oldsoftie Jul 2019 #30

The problem was that Joe never really answered the question. watoos Jul 2019 #39

Maybe people are expecting him to explain Obama. Maybe he shouldn't. Just his own plans. ancianita Aug 2019 #40

There's nothing morally wrong John Fante Jul 2019 #35

No the Orange administration treestar Jul 2019 #36

Irrelevant. Obama's not running. Biden made that point, as I recall. ancianita Aug 2019 #42

The Honduan coup was on Obama's and Clinton's watch. roody Jul 2019 #19

Oh yeah let's talk about them when they Cha Jul 2019 #26

Contrary to the beliefs of many, we're not responsible for everything bad that happens in the world oldsoftie Jul 2019 #27

US had their hands in this roody Aug 2019 #47

It was the LAW.. so That's FAIR to Follow Cha Jul 2019 #23

See Post #22. HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #25

No.. I'm not chasing down posts.. Bashing President Cha Jul 2019 #31

Not at all. Nor is holding Biden responsible for anything they disagreed with Obama about. ancianita Aug 2019 #41

Why is this helpful in any way? yardwork Jul 2019 #37

Yah, he's a loser........not really even sure why he's getting time.....ugh. a kennedy Jul 2019 #7

omg. what did he say? Cha Jul 2019 #10

Trying to attack Biden for being VP while Obama allowed deportations. Which was the LAW. oldsoftie Jul 2019 #13

Thank you so much, oldsoftie! Cha Jul 2019 #17

Agree Horizens Jul 2019 #2

Depends what they "bash" him about tishaLA Jul 2019 #3

Yes, most of us love President Obama Cha Jul 2019 #34

So DeBlasio is running against Obama. Good lord. Just drag the previous administration down. ancianita Aug 2019 #43

Can he get any worse Cha Aug 2019 #45

Yeah, running against Obama in the democratic primary is a BRILLIANT strategy. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #46

Amen. I supported that idiot for Mayor too. Princetonian Jul 2019 #6

No one last night came even close to bashing Obama. JoeOtterbein Jul 2019 #9

Good. They should tell us where they stand on the issues, what they plan to do, contrast still_one Jul 2019 #14

I 100 percent agree with OP. Nt aaaaaa5a Jul 2019 #12

but... but... progressives... wyldwolf Jul 2019 #16

But let's be clear. We all will vote for whoever has a D in the general. Joe941 Jul 2019 #20

I made it clear in the OP I was talking about the primaries still_one Jul 2019 #28

I have one criteria - beating Trump BlueIdaho Jul 2019 #21

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jul 2019 #24

Ahem.. Cha Jul 2019 #29

..... still_one Jul 2019 #32

Aloha! Cha Jul 2019 #33

How about anyone taking the credit for what Obama did? n/t MarcA Jul 2019 #38

Who did that? Can you provide a quote? Princetonian Aug 2019 #44

silentEcho

(424 posts)

1. No tv. Who did that?

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:29 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)

4. That idiot DeBlasio

Reply to silentEcho (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:32 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

silentEcho

(424 posts)

5. Ty. Sounds like lots going on with this debate.

Reply to oldsoftie (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:33 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)

8. DeBlasio brought up the Obama administration's record on deportations.

Reply to silentEcho (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:36 PM

Jul 2019

Fair game, imo. 3 million people were deported under the Obama administration, and it's a huge issue within the Latino community.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)

11. Declaring the whole.obama administration off limits

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:43 PM

Jul 2019

Means they can't comment on anything Biden did during that time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

silentEcho

(424 posts)

15. I think there are clear differences today and that conversation needs to be had.

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:51 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)

18. It was also the law, and the President followed it. He also tried to help the DREAMERS.

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:52 PM

Jul 2019

And a LOT of Latinos who came here legally think others should do as they did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)

22. Just saying, "It's the law" is a terrible excuse.

Reply to oldsoftie (Reply #18)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:56 PM

Jul 2019

The Trump administration is just "following the law" and using it as an excuse to lock families in cages. How many horrible events have occurred throughout human history where the government was just "following the law".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)

30. So you take it to court, or you change it. If we pick & choose the ones we like, we become trump

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #22)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:00 PM

Jul 2019

the law is the law, and that law could have been changed by a democratic House & Senate from 2009-2011

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

watoos

(7,142 posts)

39. The problem was that Joe never really answered the question.

Reply to oldsoftie (Reply #30)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:28 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

ancianita

(36,074 posts)

40. Maybe people are expecting him to explain Obama. Maybe he shouldn't. Just his own plans.

Reply to watoos (Reply #39)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:13 AM

Aug 2019

To defend Obama, however another candidate provokes it, is to not advance one's own relevant experience and plans for improving this country.

Biden should explain and promote Biden, not the "what about"s that others try to trip him up with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

John Fante

(3,479 posts)

35. There's nothing morally wrong

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #22)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:25 PM

Jul 2019

about catching someone illegally crossing the border and then sending them back. The overwhelming majority of Obama's "deportations" came this way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

treestar

(82,383 posts)

36. No the Orange administration

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #22)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:35 PM

Jul 2019

Is not carrying out the law. It is making up new restrictions not passed by any congress.

President Obama deported new arrivals with no right to come. He was extremely generous to long term undocumented residents. Like DACA. And DAPA was something he wanted to do but the courts said no.

Biden mentioned DACA but was not strong enough defending Obama from the ridiculous concept he was unkind to immigrants. It is absurdly unfair and those who bring it up deserve no respect. I expect it from Republicans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ancianita

(36,074 posts)

42. Irrelevant. Obama's not running. Biden made that point, as I recall.

Reply to oldsoftie (Reply #18)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:19 AM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

roody

(10,849 posts)

19. The Honduan coup was on Obama's and Clinton's watch.

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:54 PM

Jul 2019

I know. Nobody will bring that up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,304 posts)

26. Oh yeah let's talk about them when they

Reply to roody (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:58 PM

Jul 2019

were Following the Law.

While ******* trump has kidnapped and caged babies and kids with DEPLORABLE Conditions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)

27. Contrary to the beliefs of many, we're not responsible for everything bad that happens in the world

Reply to roody (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:58 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

roody

(10,849 posts)

47. US had their hands in this

Reply to oldsoftie (Reply #27)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:18 AM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,304 posts)

23. It was the LAW.. so That's FAIR to Follow

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:56 PM

Jul 2019

the LAW.

trump is a HUGE ******** Problem for the Latino Community.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)

25. See Post #22.

Reply to Cha (Reply #23)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:57 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,304 posts)

31. No.. I'm not chasing down posts.. Bashing President

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #25)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:01 PM

Jul 2019

Obama is not a good way to beat trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ancianita

(36,074 posts)

41. Not at all. Nor is holding Biden responsible for anything they disagreed with Obama about.

Reply to Cha (Reply #31)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:17 AM

Aug 2019

Biden should be seen as his own man with his own policy views.

He respected Obama that very same way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

yardwork

(61,650 posts)

37. Why is this helpful in any way?

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:39 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

a kennedy

(29,673 posts)

7. Yah, he's a loser........not really even sure why he's getting time.....ugh.

Reply to oldsoftie (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:35 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,304 posts)

10. omg. what did he say?

Reply to oldsoftie (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:41 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)

13. Trying to attack Biden for being VP while Obama allowed deportations. Which was the LAW.

Reply to Cha (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:50 PM

Jul 2019

Wanting to know if he told Obama he should stop them. Which would mean stop enforcing the LAW. but then again, DeBlasio probably doesnt care about following a law he doesnt like, as evidenced by his handling of funds in NYC.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,304 posts)

17. Thank you so much, oldsoftie!

Reply to oldsoftie (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:52 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Horizens

(637 posts)

2. Agree

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:30 PM

Jul 2019

100%

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)

3. Depends what they "bash" him about

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:31 PM

Jul 2019

I love Pres Obama, but he also made mistakes. I'm sure he'd happily talk about some of them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,304 posts)

34. Yes, most of us love President Obama

Reply to tishaLA (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:18 PM

Jul 2019

and we know he wasn't perfect and made mistakes.

But, it looks like de Blasio is bashing him for following the law.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=220478

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ancianita

(36,074 posts)

43. So DeBlasio is running against Obama. Good lord. Just drag the previous administration down.

Reply to Cha (Reply #34)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:21 AM

Aug 2019

Black voters will just love that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,304 posts)

45. Can he get any worse

Reply to ancianita (Reply #43)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:36 AM

Aug 2019

with his "strategy"!?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)

46. Yeah, running against Obama in the democratic primary is a BRILLIANT strategy.

Reply to ancianita (Reply #43)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 05:23 AM

Aug 2019

Resembles the decisions he makes running NYC

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Princetonian

(1,501 posts)

6. Amen. I supported that idiot for Mayor too.

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:35 PM

Jul 2019

Never again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)

9. No one last night came even close to bashing Obama.

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:37 PM

Jul 2019

I'd vote for all of them. ASAP!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

still_one

(92,219 posts)

14. Good. They should tell us where they stand on the issues, what they plan to do, contrast

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:51 PM

Jul 2019

themselves to the other candidates, and last but not least go after trump and the republicans

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)

12. I 100 percent agree with OP. Nt

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:46 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)

16. but... but... progressives...

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:52 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Joe941

(2,848 posts)

20. But let's be clear. We all will vote for whoever has a D in the general.

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:55 PM

Jul 2019

We can't be talking like this when it could mean 4 more years of tRump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

still_one

(92,219 posts)

28. I made it clear in the OP I was talking about the primaries

Reply to Joe941 (Reply #20)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:59 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)

21. I have one criteria - beating Trump

Reply to still_one (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:56 PM

Jul 2019

Having said that - trashing President Obama doesn’t sound like a good place to wage a war against Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

still_one

(92,219 posts)

24. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Reply to BlueIdaho (Reply #21)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:57 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,304 posts)

29. Ahem..

Reply to still_one (Reply #24)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:00 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

still_one

(92,219 posts)

32. .....

Reply to Cha (Reply #29)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:05 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,304 posts)

33. Aloha!

Reply to still_one (Reply #32)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:10 PM

Jul 2019

Could you please take about some of your ++++ in the above post?

That was my hint. I understand.. these debates are pretty hyperventilating! Whew!

Mahalo!