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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:48 PM Jul 2019

Gabbard rips into Harris for her record on marijuana prosecutions and death penalty

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard took aim at Sen. Kamala Harris in one of the more fiery moments of Wednesday’s Democratic debate in Detroit, blasting the California senator and former prosecutor for her record on the death penalty, marijuana and other criminal justice issues.

“Sen. Harris says she’s proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she’ll be a prosecutor president,” Gabbard said. “But I’m deeply concerned about this record. She blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the court’s forced her to do so.

She kept people in prisons beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California,” Gabbard said. “She put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.”

“When you were in a position to make a difference and an impact in these people’s lives you did not,” Gabbard said. “And worse — in the case of those on death row — innocent people? You actually blocked evidence that would have freed them.” Gabbard scolded Harris. “You owe them an apology,” she said.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/tulsi-gabbard-kamala-harris-record-as-prosecutor-on-marijuana-death-penalty-021423679.html

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Gabbard rips into Harris for her record on marijuana prosecutions and death penalty (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 OP
That was ferocious attack on Kamala.. at140 Jul 2019 #1
the goal is to take down both Harris and Biden JI7 Jul 2019 #5
Sanders/Steins/Trumps has an issue with Harris, thinking she is stronger that what we are seeing silentEcho Jul 2019 #7
As far as I know Sanders, or his supporters like me have no issue with Harris. CentralMass Aug 2019 #29
I wonder why she was lying mcar Jul 2019 #10
May want to read this.. at140 Jul 2019 #13
I've done my research, thanks all the same mcar Jul 2019 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #20
When are you going to start talking about Sanders? EffieBlack Aug 2019 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #25
Lol EffieBlack Aug 2019 #28
Tough night for Harris. n/t customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #2
I thought Harris was fine. bloom Jul 2019 #4
Harris did not defend her record, though emulatorloo Aug 2019 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #27
Agreed. Harris' lack of defense was more problematic for me than Gabbard's attack. (nt) thesquanderer Aug 2019 #40
I agree MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #6
*someone* here is claiming she's a Russian agent now. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #3
she is, and right now i would vote Biden over Harris JI7 Jul 2019 #8
+1 BannonsLiver Jul 2019 #18
That is a serious charge! at140 Jul 2019 #11
Well, the Russians have taken a liking to her and are promoting her. Claritie Pixie Jul 2019 #12
Like they did Bernie? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #15
May want to read this.. at140 Jul 2019 #16
It's fortunate that Tulsi has at least one defender ready, willing and able to join DU just in time EffieBlack Aug 2019 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #31
Welcome to DU GP6971 Aug 2019 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #35
Some of your previous posts GP6971 Aug 2019 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #39
Well, that was fun. Now tell us why you support Sanders EffieBlack Aug 2019 #34
A cheap and facile shot. lapucelle Jul 2019 #9
I'm sure a few of the shots were but they were effective. The good thing is is that nobody will UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #19
This! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #30
no one will remember much of anything qazplm135 Aug 2019 #36
none of those candidates are Russian agents. Apple Fritter Jul 2019 #17
Some of the assertions are downright UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #21
Anderson Cooper held Gabbard's feet to the fire on her Assad apologies jcgoldie Aug 2019 #23
I don't think there was anything in this set of debates comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #32
She did not bring up the worst ethical lapse, which was that Harris as SF's DA knew the woman emmaverybo Aug 2019 #38
+1 oasis Aug 2019 #41
 

at140

(6,110 posts)
1. That was ferocious attack on Kamala..
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:53 PM
Jul 2019

I wonder why Tulsi was aiming at Kamala instead of the front runner?
May be she is positioning for VP.

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JI7

(89,252 posts)
5. the goal is to take down both Harris and Biden
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:55 PM
Jul 2019

others are already going after Biden

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silentEcho

(424 posts)
7. Sanders/Steins/Trumps has an issue with Harris, thinking she is stronger that what we are seeing
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:56 PM
Jul 2019

in the numbers today. They think she will be a pull out of the race candidate.

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
29. As far as I know Sanders, or his supporters like me have no issue with Harris.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:47 AM
Aug 2019

I'm very impressed with her. She is calm and in control everytime I've seen her. She was very good in the debate and in the post debate interview with Anderson Cooper.

Her record has pluses and minuses. I have her in the #3 spot on my list.

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mcar

(42,334 posts)
10. I wonder why she was lying
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:03 PM
Jul 2019

Actually, no, I don't. She's supported by Russia.

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mcar

(42,334 posts)
14. I've done my research, thanks all the same
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:14 PM
Jul 2019
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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
24. When are you going to start talking about Sanders?
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:38 AM
Aug 2019
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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
28. Lol
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:47 AM
Aug 2019

You know what I’m interested in based on the whole two hours you’ve spent on DU trying to convince us that Tulsi’s on the up-and-up.

Like I said, raggedy af

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bloom

(11,635 posts)
4. I thought Harris was fine.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:55 PM
Jul 2019

Gabbard was not convincing that she knew what she was arguing about.

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emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
22. Harris did not defend her record, though
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:34 AM
Aug 2019

There were specific charges, Harris did not address those

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thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
40. Agreed. Harris' lack of defense was more problematic for me than Gabbard's attack. (nt)
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:47 AM
Aug 2019
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MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
6. I agree
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:55 PM
Jul 2019

She did better in the first one.

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wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
3. *someone* here is claiming she's a Russian agent now.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:54 PM
Jul 2019
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JI7

(89,252 posts)
8. she is, and right now i would vote Biden over Harris
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:56 PM
Jul 2019
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BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
18. +1
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:58 PM
Jul 2019

Last edited Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:40 AM - Edit history (1)

I get the same vibe.

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at140

(6,110 posts)
11. That is a serious charge!
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:10 PM
Jul 2019

I am not particularly pleased when any democrat is accused of being a foreign agent without evidence.

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Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
12. Well, the Russians have taken a liking to her and are promoting her.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:13 PM
Jul 2019

Unless and until she denounces their bullshit, she may very well be.



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wyldwolf

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15. Like they did Bernie?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:14 PM
Jul 2019
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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
26. It's fortunate that Tulsi has at least one defender ready, willing and able to join DU just in time
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:46 AM
Aug 2019

to jump in to attack and accuse her critics, armed with articles intended to debunk any accusations against her - and it’s especially fortunate that her defender is a professed Bernie supporter eager to fight tooth and nail to defend Tulsi’s honor while not offering any visible support for their own candidate.


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GP6971

(31,166 posts)
33. Welcome to DU
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:52 AM
Aug 2019

and enjoy the discussions. Are you always so opinionated?

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GP6971

(31,166 posts)
37. Some of your previous posts
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:07 AM
Aug 2019

support Tulsi, but your preference is Bernie. Why is that?

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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
34. Well, that was fun. Now tell us why you support Sanders
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:57 AM
Aug 2019

You must have at least as much to say about him and the cites to back it up as you had at your fingertips about Tulsi Gabbard.

Or wasn’t there time to gather that info before a hastily-planned dive into the discussion to try to rehabilitate Tulsi after no one bought into the “Tulsi Ate Kamala’s Lunch” narrative?

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lapucelle

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9. A cheap and facile shot.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:58 PM
Jul 2019
Appeal of Court Ruling on California’s Death Penalty

Press Release Attorney General Kamala D. Harris Issues Statement on Appeal…

SAN FRANCISCO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today issued the following statement on the decision to appeal the U.S. Central District of California court's ruling on the state’s death penalty. The court found that California’s death penalty is unconstitutional on the grounds that it takes too long for courts to consider and rule on defendants’ challenges to their convictions and sentences.

"I am appealing the court's decision because it is not supported by the law, and it undermines important protections that our courts provide to defendants. This flawed ruling requires appellate review."

https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-kamala-d-harris-issues-statement-appeal-court-ruling-california

It was crucial to appeal the judge's death penalty ruling because it was based on the premise that "the appeals process takes too long".

Why on earth would any lawyer interested in preserving civil liberties want that precedent to take root in state criminal law?
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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
19. I'm sure a few of the shots were but they were effective. The good thing is is that nobody will
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:02 AM
Aug 2019

remember any of this in a couple of days...let alone your average everyday American.

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qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
36. no one will remember much of anything
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:03 AM
Aug 2019

these are all just practice debates for the four candidates who have a shot at the nomination.

MAYBE Buttigieg, but I highly doubt it.

No one is really paying attention to any specifics.

We are learning some stuff, and we see some folks are more prepared than others (Warren clearly is the most comfortable in her own skin IMO which frees her up to just focus on issues).

But ultimately, any real movement at the top will happen (or not I suppose) in the fall debates when the pretenders are all eliminated.

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Apple Fritter

(131 posts)
17. none of those candidates are Russian agents.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:25 PM
Jul 2019
what the...
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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
21. Some of the assertions are downright
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:05 AM
Aug 2019

embarrassing.

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jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
23. Anderson Cooper held Gabbard's feet to the fire on her Assad apologies
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:36 AM
Aug 2019

...at least for a little while. That was good to see.

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comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)
32. I don't think there was anything in this set of debates
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:51 AM
Aug 2019

that moved the needle in any significant way. Biden is still in the lead with Sanders, Warren and Harris fighting for second place right now. My wife is a Beto supporter and is sad that he has faded so badly.

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
38. She did not bring up the worst ethical lapse, which was that Harris as SF's DA knew the woman
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:07 AM
Aug 2019

in charge of evidence in over 100 cases was exposed as a drug addict and drug thief who fudged records and made numerous mistakes handling evidence. Harris knew this, but did not tell defense attorneys until forced to do so. 600 cases had to be dismissed.

Now this conduct was recent and is well documented.

Despite the source, Harris needs to answer to her record. And it is not as though she has so many
positive accomplishments on the other side of the ledger that any of this can be overlooked.

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