While Gabbard had a strong debate, she is being propelled by RW efforts, possibly foreign actors...

[hlthe2b]

There is simply no denying this and I find it very disconcerting. I don't imply she has anything to do with this and nor is Seth, but it is something to factor. To those Gabbard supporters who may take offense, this is from NBC and other sources. I'm not promoting anti-Gabbard propaganda.

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[delisen]

1. We know Russians acted to boost Sanders & Stein 2016

and are supposed to be still active in election interference for this election cycle.

So it is best to get all information out on election interference

[Raven123]

2. Good to know

[wyldwolf]

3. someone here last night shredded the "theory" of foreign actors. Also...

... what did she say that can't be found in reputable news sources? Nothing.

[hlthe2b]

5. These are credible reports of her being propelled by non-party forces. Like it or not. Here's more

Tulsi Gabbard’s Campaign Is Being Boosted by Putin Apologists

The Hawaii congresswoman is quickly becoming the top candidate for Democrats who think the Russian
leader is misunderstood.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tulsi-gabbards-campaign-is-being-boosted-by-russophiles

Tulsi Gabbard: White nationalists and Russian propaganda machine throw support behind 2020 candidate

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/tulsi-gabbard-russia-david-duke-policies-2020-campaign-white-nationalist-hawaii-propaganda-a8768056.html

Should We Be Worried About Candidates Accepting Donations from ‘Russophiles’?

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/tulsi-gabbard-campaign-donations-daily-beast-story/


Why having our primaries being manipulated by outside forces does not bother is inexplicable to me.

BTW, when I make a point, I provide documentation to back it up. "someone, somewhere on DU 'shredded the theory of foreign influence'?" REALLY? Geez, I'm convinced. NOT!!!

[wyldwolf]

6. I didn't deny "non-party" sources are propelling her.

I mean, geez, non-party sources are propelling Bernie Sanders who is the epitome of "non-party. But, again:

1. The things she said to Kamala Harris can easily be found via a Google search from reputable mainstream sources.
2. They are not "Republican talking points."

[hlthe2b]

7. You are inexplicably bringing up something I did not even contest. It is senseless.

and adds nothing to the discussion given it has nothing to do with the point being made.

I said NOTHING except she had a good performance. I did not bring up her discussions re:Harris' record AT ALL, much less imply they were RW talking points.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. There is this constant tug from the right and their friends to constantly

pull the political pendulum toward the right. This is one way they do it.

[watoos]

8. Yeah, using NBC as a source

made me laugh out loud. NBC did everything in its power to bring down Warren, Bernie, Harris, and Biden.

Just look at the loaded questions they asked. There are plenty of trolls on social media who are trying to knock out Warren, Bernie, Harris, and Biden. NBC did its part just like Russian trolls did.

The M$M is not our friend, it is right wing, it is why Democrats always fight an uphill battle.

I usually don't watch cable news but I have watched some the last couple of days, my gawd people, cnn and msnbc are pushing right wing narratives and msnbc is worse than cnn. Tweety deserves an Oscar, although I do believe he is an unwitting brainwashed participant. Tweety, Wolf, and Anderson's IQ's don't hit triple digits.

People, how can you watch cable news and keep your sanity? Only watch Nicolle and Rachel but both of them have been off.

It's a different world on progressive Sirius radio where the truth is told.

[hlthe2b]

9. There are multiple sources. Your failure to address those is telling.

A bit like saying the Mueller report is merely the opinion of ONE MAN.

If one sticks their head in the sand and ignores the manipulation attempts around us, we are looking at a repeat of 2016.

[Claritie Pixie]

15. Wow. I'm reading some interesting posts this morning, that's for sure.

[watoos]

10. I'm pretty sure that Tulsi

isn't taking corporate money, just like Warren and Bernie. Who has more influence on our politicians than corporate America? Is Joe refusing corporate money?

I'm sorry but Tulsi is bashed because of her positions on Syria. I agree with her that Assad did not gas his own people, IMO that was a false flag. Remember the picture of John McCain joking with al-Qaeda rebels. We paid rebels to fight against Assad and yes some of them were al-Qaeda. There was a push to remove Assad from power because of oil and gas pipelines, war is mostly about money. (Read War is a Racket) Qatar discovered a huge supply of natural gas and Assad refused to allow it to cross through Syria. Assad did allow Iraq/Iran oil and gas pipelines to cross his border. Oh and yeah Russia supported and operated the Iraq/Iran pipelines.

I disagree with Tulsi on a lot of issues, but I'm afraid she is telling the inconvenient truth about Assad and Syria.

She did something that few of our candidates did, she served our country in the military and she went to the ME when she could have gotten out of it.

[hlthe2b]

11. Not once have I criticized HER. I criticize the manipulation which you seem to be willing to ignore

that is damned foolish and whether it is with Gabbard or someone else, will give us 2016 all over again.

[mcar]

12. Kick

[colsohlibgal]

13. Troubling But....

Abramson makes it plain he is not blaming her for this.

I read up on her, she came from an ultra conservative family but she eventually moved away from their views.

She is not going to be the nominee so relax anti Tulsi folks.

[hlthe2b]

14. Second sentence of my OP: " I don't imply she has anything to do with this and nor is Seth..."

[RockaFowler]

16. Gabbard loses my vote for this

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Mueller reported Trump did not collude with Russia to influence our elections. Now we must put aside partisan interests, move forward, and work to unite our country to deal with the serious challenges we face.

Now why the heck would she say this?? This is before the report was even released!!! Just Barr's 4 page note . . .

[jcgoldie]

19. +1 debate all you want about who's behind her or whether she was justified on Assad but...

Defending Donald fucking Trump = disqualifying factor.

[MBS]

23. Yes, disqualifying right there.

Thanks for the reminder.
Even statements like these are dismissed as "mere" "quirkiness," it's quirkiness with grave consequences, and, at best, reflects jaw-droppingly poor judgment.
And poor judgment is the last thing we need in the next president.

Please go away, Tulsi.

To be honest, I'm uneasy with her even as a member of Congress.

[Hortensis]

17. Speaking of Russia, why so many posts about someone on her way out?

Supposedly.

She has striking looks and did do pretty well last night, not in dispute. RT thinks so after every debate, of course, and this time it's "Tulsi Gabbard dismantles Kamala Harris over her prosecutor record during Dem debate." Breitbart and Drudge polls both declare her the "winner," and she's also white supremacist Ron Paul-approved as "the Democrats' best candidate."

But how'd she make it onto the stage? She came into this with a questionable reputation (at one time she tried to join Bernie Sanders, waving first class anti-evil-DNC creds, but even he wouldn't have her); and that Russia has been clandestinely promoting her as part of its cyberwar against the U.S. is solidly documented. So I think we should at least wonder IF she would have qualified even for the first debates without it.

Right now she needs to qualify for the third set and, undoubtedly assisted in part by Russian and RW social media promotion and resulting small donations (from both RW and LW), she's in better financial shape than some others.

[Skidmore]

20. This NBC article.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russia-s-propaganda-machine-discovers-2020-democratic-candidate-tulsi-gabbard-n964261

[Hortensis]

24. :) The usual Russian state/pro- media had pro-Gabbard articles this a.m.

I checked.

I didn't check social media, Twitter, etc. But I did find some Gabbard fans complaining about an apparent evil scheme to cut pro-Gabbard propaganda on Twitter after the debate, though that's not exactly how they explained it. Their disappointed expectation that her Twitter activity would surpass all the others was very passionately expressed, though.

[dalton99a]

18. She is not running for president, she is delivering a message

[uponit7771]

21. OMFG !!

[MBS]

22. I'm plenty disconcerted, too

Thanks for keeping this in people's consciousness.