Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumNina Turner, a 2020 Bernie campaign chair, refused to support Hillary days before the 2016 election.
What does it mean that Bernie allows this from people at the top of his campaign?
How can he have re-hired a woman who didn't care if she helped Trump to win?
I think this should be a deal breaker. If Bernie would hire a campaign co-chair who wouldn't support the Democratic nominee, then we shouldn't support him.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)I'll see if I can find the video that I saw on twitter earlier today.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)so much time and effort was spent scrubbing her bio. There is a reason she was seated at a table with Putin and Flynn. We now know Flynn is a traitor. Time for more Americans to realize the same about Jill Stein. She wasn't a useful idiot, she wasn't misrepresented. She was a feature, not a bug.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)High profile people who are doing putin's work for him can accomplish so much.
Of course rump is the main one, but there are others.
I mean in some cases even if someone isnt an asset, their ACTIONS and words can have the SAME result as if they were.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....but the rest of the tweet isn't postable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)Fortunately, there will be enough scrutiny on him this time around to give me confidence that he won't last much past the first couple of primaries.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Its open disdain for our party and Hillary Clinton.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)I guess I was trying to be nice, but when Bernie elevates someone who was directly linked to electing Trump, nice doesn't work.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,635 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,731 posts)Looks like Bernie is looking to repeat the same cycle in 2020. It's unfortunate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,194 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)Are you familiar with their role?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,618 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,618 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)why you posted the "donut" gif?!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)When they arrived, she said, barricades blocked the entrance steps and a handful of DNC staffers stood waiting outside. I was absolutely stunned, Turner said.
snip==========================================
They tried to seduce us with donuts and water, she said. Theyre pompous and arrogant enough to say to the people, 'youre not good enough to be on our property and, oh by the way, were just gonna hand you donuts and water over the barricade.' That is insulting. Absolutely insulting.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rubycramer/our-revolution-has-a-problem-with-the-dictatorial-arrogant
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Just gained a little respect for her. I would have grabbed a water and donuts and called it a day. A good day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(16,875 posts)There have been times I would do obscene things for a donut...just sayin
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)Knowing ol Nina the way I do.. she was lucky to get donuts and water. Whine on, Nina. they sure as hell didn't need any coffee.
Mahalo, lapucelle!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)always have.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)at all times; invariably
at all times; on all occasions
every time; on every occasion; without exception
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)Thanks for the definition.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yosemito
(648 posts)It is wrong for a member to say that he/she loved the fact that someone didnt endorse our candidates.
You can prefer one candidate over the other, but dont do what you just did.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)whose post I was referencing.
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=2260
I always support Democrats.
Always have.
Always will.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Democrats and Sanders picks her again?
So much for healing wounds and forgeting the las primaries. Now, every time anyone ask for to support sanders, this video should be the reply.
This shows us how much he is interested in healing woulds and uniting the party...I wish I could say more, but I can't
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)Divisive.. and he brings Nina Turner on board to make sure everybody who's paying attention knows it.
Looks like BS wants to reopen them big time.
Aloha, Luna
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)That "convention" took place the weekend before the Democratic National Convention in July 2016. Hugging Jill Stein days before Stein's Democratic opponent would be nominated.
And "Democrats" love her?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)nina doesn't like fierce fighting for our Democracy Dems.. so why would we like her?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
allgood33
(1,584 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)damn sure it doesn't happen again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cane4Dems
(305 posts)that we have democrats in our party who were ok with a trump victory
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and encouraged anyone else to do the same is dirt. Period.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)in by supporting jill stein's Fucking LIES.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PupCamo
(288 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:37 AM - Edit history (1)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)If you want a big tent - if you want to win - you need someone who can excite the people that feel so disenfranchised that they don't show up to vote. Running to the middle is running right up to the republicans - there is no room there. Its not just left/right. Its the millions that feel their vote doesn't matter - that no political decision will affect their lives.
I think its a great move. Nina sure can get people up on their feet! And if you don't believe that, then you can't possibly believe she got people to reject the Democrats in any meaningful way.
She's working for a Democratic nominee. That should be good news.
Edit - How will you get the Dem-exiters back? You need someone to get them to register. Some reason. Yes, she will be appealing to the people who could see their lives improved by progressive policies - on bothe the left and right. I don't think you have to worry about her getting 3rd way voters to re-register as they most likely didn't leave. Not a judgement call. Just the way the chips landed last time.
Get rid of Trump - by any means - but bonus points if things can improve. With an informed and motivated base.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)While there aren't terrific changes, you see the # of independants drop every year there is an election. And even 1 point can mean that much more in enthusiasm to vote.
Keeping the party united is key if you don't want to see the big exits to indie post-election. One interesting anomoly - not a big rush to indie in 2000 through 2003. Gains for the dems. Perhaps chill a bit on the war drum stuff re. Venezuela?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)Dems and fucking trump repubs.
She's a poor choice.. she and BS are too divisive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Easy to pick quotes and repeat them out of context if your intent is to be divisive.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)It might help to explain the anger. I think I understand yours on a visceral level having seen your posts over the years. I don't have answers on how to fix any of this. I don't know how people move on given their personal lives that I don't have access to.
I hope there is a better resolution all around this time. It is crucial!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)had a big hand in getting trump rigged in.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)Our Revolution who have stated they will make Democrats crawl for an endorsement but happily endorse Greens and even Republicans. I don't care why they are angry...I am angry that this sort and the Greens cost us 16 and are at it again. Hopefully, we can stop them this time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Basically, they just like calling themselves "independent," so they can seem above it all.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)I'd love to learn more about the 'independent' voter. I've only researched the hard facts to date. Would be extremely helpful to see further studies.
edit: just found this http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/05/5-facts-about-americas-political-independents/
will continue to google!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)The Washington Post has articles on the myth of the independent voter but I've used up my free articles for the month. Anyway, here's a piece from The Nation: https://www.thenation.com/article/what-everyone-gets-wrong-about-independent-voters/
And here's a very thorough analysis from Vox: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/1/22/10814522/independents-voters-facts-myths
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)We are letting the fox in the hen house with this kind of nonsense.
Let me clear... people like can not insult me over and over again and them tell me how they are really good for me.
That is some Grade A bullshit right there.
And your argument is basically just that I have to accept I am terrible person, no better than Republicans. NO FUCKING THANKS. Sanders needs to rescind this appointment. And if he does not, he needs to be asked about it (and his taxes) over and over and over again.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)CM: Will the group be endorsing non-Democrats?
NT: You know what, yes. We are open to it. And for me, Ive also heard the senator say this lately too: Lets put the political affiliation to the side.
Nina Turner: It Is Not Our Job to Fit Into the Democratic Establishment
I respectfully submit that this is not a description of someone that "faithful to the interests, welfare and success of the Democratic Party of the United States, and will participate in the Convention in good faith."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)"establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment" "establishment"
Newsflash! BS is just as "establishment" as anyone else they're trying to label.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It coincides with the Democratic Party in places, and does not in others. The Party really shouldn't let him run under the false premise that he's a Democrat. He's not evil. But he's not a member of the Democratic Party. I'm disappointed in the leadership letting this guy in. Then again, if he has a following among Democrats, maybe leadership feels they have to let him run under the Dem Party banner.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,339 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)who "love her" loved that she supported stain and helped trump get elected, because you know, this time around sanders will be a shoo-in for the nomination, and crush trump in the GE
I can't wait to see him crash and burn...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Zambero
(8,968 posts)Actions always speak louder than words. If Sanders is sincere in his intent to run as a bonafide Democrat this time around, he should be selecting individuals who have demonstrated that they will go on support the party's nominee regardless. In the run-up to the 2016 election, the specter of a Trump presidency was not enough to move Turner. This choice fails the test miserably.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
roody
(10,849 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)She took money from the Democratic party when Bernie was running, and she owed the party some loyalty. At least she could have been silent.
Instead, she announced that she wouldn't support Hillary. Anyone who failed to support Hillary helped Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)campaign for a f'ing Green...she helped give us Trump and multiple judges that will limit a progressive agenda for decades. I live in Ohio and voted for her twice. I will never forget nor forgive what she did...and others too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)fucking trump rigged in.. by supporting jill stein's FUCKING LIES about Hillary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
John Fante
(3,479 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
QC
(26,371 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)interesting how certain WOC are castigated on here... AOC was relentlessly smeared an nitpicked, Nina was shit on regularly as well as Tulsi and it looks like that tradition will continue..
It's almost as if folks don't like STRONG , PROGRESSIVE women on COLOR to have a voice or their own opinions..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)I've stated before that the Stein stuff is nonsense, a distraction from fixing actual problems.. After the way she (Nina) was treated, she has a right to chose whomever she feels like.. & I don't think she ever came out fully disclosed who she was VOTING for.. but, she reserves the right to advocate or NOT advocate for any candidate.. again, free country
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)so don't expect any support for people who undermines our candidates, and don't whine about discrimination against WOC here, when Kamala Harris, a DEMOCRAT is currently leading on DEMOCRATIC underground.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)and she is FANTASTIC..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Sanders had of getting the nomination.
Now he has as much chance of winning as...Tulsi.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)ok - you do you
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)now your the arbiter of who is & isn't.. y'all's desperation is showing...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)She and her husband Jeffrey are registered Democrats in Cleveland - Ward 1
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)changed their minds but not their registration-they don't bother to vote in primaries. I took my life in my hands calling on some during the Obama elections. She has said she will support Greens and even Republicans and has trashed Democrats at every turn. She is a bad choice and supported Stein during 16. She can call herself a Democrat if she chooses but all that means is she requested a Democratic ballot during the last primary she voted in. She was elected in Ohio. I voted for her in both elections. She lost statewide in the second one. Most Democratic Ohioans dislike her for her role in the 16 election and the constant trashing of our party. Again she can call herself what she chooses. But her presence as Sen. Sander's campaign chair combined with Justice Democrat Waleed Shahid's role as campaign chair has cemented my decision not to vote for Sen. Sanders in a primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)so she's easily suckered by LIES about Hillary and trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)it's called RF by jill stein and nina turner voted for that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)I'll repeat, I might make this my sig;
It's almost as if folks don't like STRONG , PROGRESSIVE women on COLOR to have a voice or their own opinions..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:25 PM - Edit history (1)
No, criticism of Turner has nothing to do with her race, religion, gender, ideology, or choice of pizza topping. It has to do with her refusal to support Democratic candidates, and equating them with Republicans.
Your implication is fallacious, unsupported, and shameful.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)not gonna play your games..
I will support who I want to support & you go ahead & support who you wanna support..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)I will acknowledge the possibility while reserving affirmative belief.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)Here I thought the leading runner on DU was a strong progressive woman of color: Kamala Harris.
Too funny.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,339 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)The argument is that, because the the person being criticized is black, the criticism is due to a general bias against women of color.
I believe that this is a form of a strawman attack, but it may have another label. How would you classify it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Pobeka
(4,999 posts)This shows poor judgement. Really poor judgement.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MustLoveBeagles
(11,634 posts)I don't think I'd be able to support him this time around. This is stunningly bad judgement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
backabby-blue
(144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)I think I only saw one person.. and I was shocked.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,999 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)I was at the national convention when sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis as part of a planned stunt. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this stunt and reclined.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)Why is that a double standard?
It's not as if Clinton voters are going to go out and support Jill Stein in the 2020 general.
That would be the BS campaign co-chair Co-Chairperson Senator Nina Turner.
I hope a ballsy journalist asks her,
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,999 posts)I didn't obsess about which subordinate did what during the campaign, so I had to do a little googling to understand what this was about:
Other than twitter rumors, I couldn't find where she said she supported Jill Stein. Maybe you can help me out.
I did find that Stein offered her the running mate position in the green party but she turned it down saying, "I think the party is worth fighting for. I believe that the Democratic Party is worth fighting for."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)She also pro-actively and pre-emptively announced that she had been offered (and had turned down) the vice president's spot on Putin apologist Jill Stein's ticket.
A surprised Stein told reporters the next day that her team had vetted several candidates.
It's time for the Co-Chairperson-Senator© to stop ducking the questions and to set the record straight.
It's a very simple thing to do. Why won't she do it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)you are correct. It is NOT a double standard at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)I do not care if I have to make maxed out donations to more than one candidate during the primary process.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
we can do it
(12,194 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Can't be allowed to happen again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,618 posts)Medicare for all, then that's our kind of person" Turner.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)besides potentially collect a paycheck?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)He and Turner are on the same page.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)She started the last primary working for Clinton. She was involved with two Clinton Super PACs, gave speeches in support of Clinton, and helped fundraiser for her. She saw a positive career move by going over to the Sanders campaign. She then became the Sanders supporter that even most Sanders supporters cant stand. A true Trump enabler. She sold out and helped Trump as a career move. Not a bit based in ideology or what was best for the country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(16,875 posts)Every move Nina Turner made from 2015 to present seems to be based on what benefits her politically. It's the only way her moves make any sense.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)Nina's decision was reprehensible but was entirely her own. It is rwrong, imo, to presume that her misguided vote casts aspersions on Senator Sanders. He was not her puppet master. The constant attempts to smear him are as misguided as was Turner's vote. Bernie isn't my first choice this time around, but if we want the other candidates to be treated gently -- as I do-- this isn't the way to encourage party unity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Nina Turner had no national profile till Bernie came along.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Now, he has named one high-profile Stein supporter to run his campaign.
To state that this does not reflect on him is ludicrous. The BS has really gone beyond the pale.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
namahage
(1,157 posts)in an election that requires Democratic unity.
Part of that would seem to be not to alienate a constituency--in this case, one that beat Sanders in 2016 by nearly 4 million votes--that he will need for victory.
Either he was ignorant of Turner's potential negatives in a Democratic race, or he knew and didn't care. One would have to question if victory is even Sanders's goal with such a move.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)If he keeps doing this kind of thing his support will diminish to the point that you won't need to worry about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)Well said.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)If she didn't support Clinton, then she helped Trump win. That is who BS chose to head his 2020 campaign. Says a lot about where BS's head is.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)I grew up in southern Arkansas. Every elected county official and area state legislator was a Democrat. My family was friends with a couple of them who had been politicians for years. They were some of the most conservative people you could ever meet. Anytime you heard many of the others speak, it was the same way. Most were pretty conservative. But, to win elections around there, you had to run as a Democrat.
My grandfather, a Baptist deacon who I once heard say that Huckabee was too liberal, was on the county Democratic committee. No way he'd ever be a Republican!
BS is no more a Democrat than the aforementioned politicians or my grandfather.while I dont think BS will win the nomination, he certainly has no chance without a "D" by his name. And I guess the powers that be are OK letting him have a shot.
It's the darndest thing...oh well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)She was for some of the Democratic Party's economic positions. However, most of her social positions would make people like Roy Moore raise an eyebrow. I think she was mostly a Democrat because she had been raised to be one, and didn't have a cluepay as to what the parties stood for.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)I loved that man to death, and would do just about anything to get an hour with him. Miss him so.
I just didnt talk politics with him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)Had Hilary won, his movement would be over.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)on cnn after the "rigging" in of trump calling the Democratic Party "elite" and saying how he was "humiliated"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)has now been completely erased.
Really stupid decision to hire her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)between Democrats and repubs..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,618 posts)Guess she's never read Jack London stories.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)Thank You for clarifying the Difference between Wolves and Foxes, betsuni.
This was in 2017 when our Dems were out there on the Front Lines Fighting for our very Lives.. and getting knocked down every which way.. but the patriots persisted!
The Country sure knew the Difference between Dems and repubs when there were 45 red House seats Flipped to BLUE in the BLUE WAVE Midterms of 2018. Giving our Nation a better chance to get out of Russia's Fascist Grip on us.
And, we still have so much more to go.
Jeeze.. pay attention Nina!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)She's absolutely dreadful.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)Is she going to go on national news and bash our nominee and advocate for Jill Stein?
I think we are getting setup for 2016 redux.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and she'll be inserting her Stein-loving and Stein-voting toxicity into everything she touches. Vanity and arrogance like that belongs on the runway, not in national politics when so much is at stake.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)I do know what we can do to stop it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)the longer it goes on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)his intention is to damage the Democratic Party in 2020
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)I also believe the articles that can't be posted here regarding him being every bit as tied to Russia as Rumpus.
Never BS.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Those similarities have been noted many times before, complete with documented examples.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
seaglass
(8,173 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...upgraded their security so campaigns can't unscrupulously tap into other campaigns' data.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)I wonder if he'll be tapped again as well.
https://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/18/sanders-campaign-disciplined-for-breaching-clinton-data/?_r=0
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/19/upshot/sanders-vs-party-why-voter-data-can-be-so-important.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)but in fact they had FOUR people accessing the data at the same time. The total time in the database for all four was 276 minutes. That's more than 4-1/2 HOURS!
They accessed data for these 15 states (and created folders and saved data elsewhere):
Alabama
Arizona
Texas
New Hampshire
Hawaii
Ohio
South Carolina
Iowa
Colorado
Arkansas
Florida
Virginia
Utah
Tennessee
Oklahoma
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)who were altruistically testing to see the extent of the information that could be illegally accessed and exploited so that they could better warn the DNC about the problem they innocently stumbled upon?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Do not post support for Republicans or independent/third-party "spoiler" candidates. Do not state that you are not going to vote, or that you will write-in a candidate that is not on the ballot, or that you intend to vote for any candidate other than the official Democratic nominee in any general election where a Democrat is on the ballot. Do not post anything that smears Democrats generally, or that is intended to dissuade people from supporting the Democratic Party or its candidates. Don't argue there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats.
She has done at least those things, and there may be much more.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Funny how so many things that BS has said, or that she's said would be hidden on this very board, yet garner protection because they falsely wear the very label they are oft to critique?
NEVER BS!
#ADBB (Any Democrat but Bernie or Bust)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)and fucking fascist trump Assholes.
she would be banned from DU for espousing her stupid "both sides" crap.. and pumping for Jill Stein's Fucking LIES.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)People are known by the company they keep and the decisions they make, and in this case, nothing about this story portrays anyone is a positive or flattering light. In fact, it confirms much of what I've been hearing for a very long time. And, for obvious reasons, I won't go into details... so I'll just leave it at that for now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... I can see the compatibility between the two.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Paladin
(28,272 posts)I have nothing but disdain for her, and nothing but contempt for Bernie's second spoiler campaign. Same for any of their supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Or maybe he IS aware and just doesn't care. I'd find it difficult to believe (and would be disappointed if it's true) that he thinks her Stein-voting Anti-Hillary Pro-Trump rhetoric actually benefits his campaign.
Turner is a complete mess. She's a political trainwreck.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Excerpts from a recent interview with Jacobin Magazine:
She seems to thrive on bashing Democrats, she's been doing it for years. And I don't know what New York she's looking at, but if she said that she's woefully misinformed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)In this case it really makes no sense to give an undeserved benefit of the doubt.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)German !! I really adore her...she speaks truth to power...those are the folks I admire...like I said before.. at times a loud minority decides to hate someone and they demand we all hate the target, too...So democratic, ain't it? And adult !!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)I do not know on a social media site...we are having our DEM All County Convention this weekend...a 2 day affair...we are to get snow, then rain and ice, then 12 more inches of snow on top of that...I am preparing handouts, making pot salad...and maybe driving folks...
You have your fun fighting, tho !!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,448 posts)Because he was a fighter.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)you are getting off the wall now kiddo....Avenatti is nuts..I adore Obama...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,448 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts).. No Exceptions. It's too fucking important.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....of Our Revolution...
About fitting in with the DNC, DSCC, DCCC
And what about the Democratic Party at large. Do you see Our Revolution working to bring some unity to factions in the party?
Will the group be endorsing non-Democrats?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)In fact she's full of it.. Nina promoted Jill Stein's Fucking LIES and she doesn't know the damn difference between a patriotic Dem and a Damn fucking repub.
Link to tweet
And, BS brought this Divisive person on board to co-chair.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
allgood33
(1,584 posts)support our Democratic candidate in the national election. Breaks my heart to know they are back at their same games for 2020. All I know to do is to fight that much harder for our candidates not of their ilk. We have so many excellent candidates to choose from. Why would we choose a candidate that has said in the past they don't like us and really believe there is no difference between us and the GOP?
Most of our candidates have earner their Democratic stripes claiming to be true Democrats and wearing the battle scars well. Sire there is always room for improvement and more boldness on some fronts. Not supporting HRC last time around was a real deal-breaker for me. They earned my disrespect.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lark
(23,156 posts)Just shows that he's lying when he says he will support the Democratic party, but switches back from Democrat the first second we didn't chose him as our rep in the general. All he truly seems to care about is his own ego.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yosemito
(648 posts)In the debates.
This means that Nina turner helped Donald Trump become president. I dont think Democratic voters will take that well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)giving the finger to the entire Democratic party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)He sees himself as an agent of change, not a viable candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)me me me, call on me, I KNOW I KNOW
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)Why don't you tell us what it means.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)She's no exception.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)She fought to keep a personal consultant on who made anti immigration pro trump comments after the election. She wanted to make her chief of staff. The board wasn't having it.
The Bernie Sanders-inspired Our Revolution has cut ties with group president Nina Turner's personal consultant, following a public airing of anger from board members and staff over past anti-immigrant and pro-Donald Trump comments.
Last Friday, Turner told POLITICO she was "really surprised" to hear the groups board of directors had complaints about Our Revolution. Earlier this month, however, board members blocked Turner from promoting Figaro to be the group's chief of staff. They had compromised then by allowing Figaro to stay on for a few months as a consultant.
"I do have purview over staffing, and thats just it," Turner said on Friday.
But Turner's decision to retain Figaro had led to ongoing complaints, in public and private, that she was betraying the values of the progressive organization.
I saw the woman (Tezlyn Figaro) on Fox news and wish I could say I was shocked when I saw them list her as a former Bernie Sanders staffer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)I will pass it on when needed.
The Bernie Sanders-inspired Our Revolution has cut ties with group president Nina Turner's personal consultant, following a public airing of anger from board members and staff over past anti-immigrant and pro-Donald Trump comments.
Last Friday, Turner told POLITICO she was "really surprised" to hear the groups board of directors had complaints about Our Revolution. Earlier this month, however, board members blocked Turner from promoting Figaro to be the group's chief of staff. They had compromised then by allowing Figaro to stay on for a few months as a consultant.
"I do have purview over staffing, and thats just it," Turner said on Friday.
But Turner's decision to retain Figaro had led to ongoing complaints, in public and private, that she was betraying the values of the progressive organization.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)I really have no tolerance for Jill Stein and Trump supporters this time around.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)around so I'm more than double intolerant!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)Nina Turner supported Stein in 16 and folks like her cost us the election in my opinion. I am particularly angry and disappointed in her. She supported the greens and Stein over Hillary and basically said she wouldn't support Sherrod Brown even though he is progressive because he supported Hillary...he would have 'earn' his place at the grass roots level. People like her...Our Revolution and Justice Democrats don't work for the good of the party or even the country and will cost us elections if we are not on guard...look at the Feinstein video which was doctored. In my opinion, folks like Turner and Sarandon cost us 16 and now we have a judges that will kneecap a progressive agenda for decades...one these folks claim to support. All I can say is talk is cheap.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)that Nina wouldn't support Sherrod Brown because of that.. but it sounds like her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Why is one of your campaign co-chairs someone who didn't back the Democratic Party nominee in the 2016 election?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oasis
(49,408 posts)Most certainly.
During the 2016 presidential campaign, Nina ditched Hillary's organization to join Bernie. After Bernie went down, Nina not only refused to support Hillary, but went work on boosting Jill Stein's numbers. Not a team player when we needed her most.
Now we all have Trump to deal with.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)so many here have only animosity for Nina Turner.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)Link to tweet
?s=20
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Again, it wasnt exactly a defense of Cohen, but for Turner, that was beside the point.
https://lawandcrime.com/politics/americans-should-be-concerned-about-cohen-fbi-raid-going-too-far-says-fmr-dem-lawmaker/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rubycramer/our-revolution-has-a-problem-with-the-dictatorial-arrogant
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike Nelson
(9,966 posts)
hopefully, when the first changes in campaign leadership are made, someone reflecting Bernie's message of unity will be promoted into this position.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,635 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden