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Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:18 PM

 

Tulsi Gabbard's "Regime-Change War" is the language of Putin and Russia


The places you hear that phrase most commonly are on RT (Russia Today), Sputnik, and other Putin-friendly outlets.


*THIS* is why people say she is a Putin puppet. Because she echoes, VERBATIM, Putin talking points.


She *CANNOT* be trusted.
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Reply Tulsi Gabbard's "Regime-Change War" is the language of Putin and Russia (Original post)
scheming daemons Oct 2019 OP
MustLoveBeagles Oct 2019 #1
Claritie Pixie Oct 2019 #2
Cha Oct 2019 #3
dalton99a Oct 2019 #12
Cha Oct 2019 #14
dlk Oct 2019 #4
boomer_wv Oct 2019 #5
dlk Oct 2019 #17
LeftInTX Oct 2019 #26
betsuni Oct 2019 #6
Celerity Oct 2019 #20
betsuni Oct 2019 #21
Celerity Oct 2019 #22
Hortensis Oct 2019 #23
Celerity Oct 2019 #31
Hortensis Oct 2019 #32
Celerity Oct 2019 #33
Hortensis Oct 2019 #35
Celerity Oct 2019 #36
Hortensis Oct 2019 #37
scipan Oct 2019 #38
TryLogic Oct 2019 #7
Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2019 #8
sheshe2 Oct 2019 #10
sheshe2 Oct 2019 #9
Docreed2003 Oct 2019 #27
sheshe2 Oct 2019 #30
FM123 Oct 2019 #11
dalton99a Oct 2019 #13
FM123 Oct 2019 #16
Cha Oct 2019 #15
FM123 Oct 2019 #24
mopinko Oct 2019 #18
phleshdef Oct 2019 #19
mindfulNJ Oct 2019 #25
Pachamama Oct 2019 #28
mcar Oct 2019 #29
FrankBooth Oct 2019 #34

Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:19 PM

1. I don't like her either

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:20 PM

2. You got it! If you know what to look for, it's plain as day.

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:21 PM

3. Hell No.

 



https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=310434
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Response to Cha (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:54 PM

12. +1. He should represent Hawaii in Congress

 

instead of David Duke's favorite candidate



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Response to dalton99a (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:56 PM

14. Precisely, dalton! Kai Kahele will

 

be my 3rd primary opponent of TG's that I will be voting for.. hopefully it's the charm!
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:23 PM

4. Tulsi & Trey Gowdy, who knew?

 

An unusual friendship...
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Response to dlk (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:27 PM

5. wow.

 

That was a bad answer. The only worse one I could think of would be saying your best republican friend is Ted Cruz or Devin Nunes.
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Response to boomer_wv (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 12:02 AM

17. Sometimes, people give themselves away...

 

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Response to dlk (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:48 AM

26. Ew..I missed her answer

 

I'm babysiitting my toddler granddaughter ..and you know how distracting toddlers can be..
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:27 PM

6. I remember trolls hard at work repeating that President Obama was doing regime change.

 

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Response to betsuni (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 01:58 AM

20. I detest Gabbard, but your assertion is pure gaslighting

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303812104576439713197868294

July 12, 2011

The Obama administration for the first time Monday said it supported regime change in Syria, capping a day in which mobs attacked the U.S. Embassy in Damascus and tensions between the two nations escalated.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 02:10 AM

21. What?

 

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Response to betsuni (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 02:21 AM

22. Obama's Regime-Change Policy in Syria

 

When you’re a superpower, you can do anything you want to, it seems.

https://www.thenation.com/article/obamas-regime-change-policy-syria/

The Pentagon, the State Department and the CIA are making war plans for Syria. And they’re pretty much announcing them.

Over the weekend, on a visit to Turkey, a NATO member, to meet with Syrian opposition leaders and Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, the Turkish foreign minister, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explicitly declared that Washington’s policy toward Syria is now in what she called the “operational” phase. “We have been closely coordinating over the course of this conflict, but now we need to get into the real details of such operational planning,” she said, adding: “Our intelligence services, our military have very important responsibilities and roles to play, so we are going to be setting up a working group to do exactly that.”

Make no mistake: this is regime change by force. It’s not exactly like Iraq, and it’s not exactly like Libya (yet)—but it’s regime change by force anyway.

In her statement with Davutoglu, Clinton said that the United States is doing the following:

First, supporting the opposition and their efforts to end the violence and begin the transition to a free and democratic Syria without Assad. The United States continues to provide the opposition with communications equipment and other forms of non-lethal assistance and direct financial assistance. We are coordinating our efforts with others who are also providing various forms of support.


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Response to Celerity (Reply #22)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:41 AM

23. But the term IS now being used in Russian propaganda

 

given all the hostile propaganda twists.

We should all ask WHY Gabbard has been repeatedly promoting Russian interests in the Middle East. And why Russia is promoting her presidential campaign.

Russia is waging war against us in in OUR nation by embedding corruption in our systems, corrupting conservative politicians, corrupting the viewpoints of our electorate, and corrupting and subverting OUR elections.

We all need to fight it.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #23)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 02:25 PM

31. you do not win propaganda wars by saying things that simply are not true (ie. that Syria was never

 

about regime change.)

Being against wars for regime change is hardly a Russian-only stance, hardly a Russian invention. Accepting untruths and chalking off certain stances just because something we detest atm (Russia and Putin, on a number of fronts) happens to use a term every now and then (regime change is a term that has been used for centuries) is called giving in, and is exactly what the aim is of Russia's non-linear warfare and reflex control schemes.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #31)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 02:28 PM

32. Sophistry, unintentional or otherwise. If RUSSIA is using it,

 

and if Gabbard is using it, you shouldn't. You don't actually need to understand why they're pushing this idea. That Russia is trying to destroy your wellbeing is all you should to know to realize you have to stop them.

You wouldn't like living the rest of your life in a destroyed, impoverished, despotic nation. If that seems a lot to imagine Russia capable of, please remember climate change and imagine not addressing it and the end of work as we know it. Famine is common in Russia, just not allowed to be widespread enough to give a bad appearance to the faux elections they put on.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #32)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 02:36 PM

33. I simply disagree, and the original point I was making still stands. Regime change in Syria was the

 

stated goal of the Obama administration, to say it was not (like Biden did last night or the poster did in this thread) is factually untrue, as I have already shown.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #33)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 04:30 PM

35. We really NEED to stop helping those who would destroy us.

 

These are serious times.

I'm not saying turn into your grandmother. Keep your principles but stop stooging for your enemies. Understand what they're doing and refuse to help them.

My biggest condemnation of Gabbard, Sanders and others is that they're accepting the lift Putin gives them in this war instead of refusing to be weaponized, fooling themselves they can accept the benefits without betraying those who trust them.

They cannot.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #35)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:02 PM

36. I do not support Gabbard at all, and I recently changed my mind and now think she will (and should)

 

lose her congressional seat as well (if she even runs again). I also do not support Sanders at all for POTUS, I think he would be an electoral disaster and understand the extent that Russia tried boost him (and especially Stein) in 2016, although I believe he himself did not support any of Russia's interference.

out of curiosity

I'm not saying turn into your grandmother. Keep your principles but stop stooging for your enemies. Understand what they're doing and refuse to help them.

Who are you referring to as stooging for your enemies?

Gabbard? (I can see that case being made)
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Response to Celerity (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:09 PM

37. Everyone who pretends Russia is not in it. AND

 

the Republicans are also here and everywhere we go, trying to turn us and play us for fools -- to destroy us.

These aren't the good old days. We're at war, and as voters we are tiny powers, targets and pawns to be captured, in a giant battle for power. We have to be smarter than those who came before us needed to be. Our nation is in even greater danger than during the Civil War. At least then half the nation would have continued as a liberal democracy.

This is NOT about moderate or bold liberal change, which healthcare system we choose, a dangerously clueless notion. It's about whether we will continue to have the ability to choose any government system at all.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #33)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:18 PM

38. You are correct.

 

And, that type of argument is a very bad argument.
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:30 PM

7. Time for Tulsi to go home.

 

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Response to TryLogic (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:37 PM

8. She's plastered Iowa with billboards and parts of Des Moines with yard signs

 

At this point, I think she is auditioning for Veep. Klobuchar, Mayor Pete, & Harris have much better shots, IMO.
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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:49 PM

10. The only way she becomes VP....

 

is if she runs with...……………….never mind.
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:47 PM

9. She was, in a word...

 

Unfuggingbelievable.

Ok, I made up my own word.

Bye Tulsi.
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:49 AM

27. What???

 

You didn't enjoy her robotic responses and the automaton-like movements as she turned as a surrogate debate moderator to question Warren time and again??


(Even Elizabeth made faces of exasperation with her nonsense)



Frankly I was shocked more than once last night about her positions and her framing of issues. Frankly, we should all be suspicious. Just my 2c!

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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #27)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 12:47 PM

30. Ha!

 

I fully agree with your 2c!
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:53 PM

11. Yep. And she didn't miss one chance to take a dig at Dems tonight....

 

When she said she agreed with Hillary's statement about abortion she also had to throw in that there were so many things she did not agree with and when she said there was blood on trump's hands about the Kurds she also had to throw in that there was blood on the hands of our congress on both sides....come on, really?!?
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Response to FM123 (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:56 PM

13. She has no business being in the Democratic Party

 

that she despises so much
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Response to dalton99a (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:58 PM

16. Despise. That's exactly the word - she can barely hide how she feels.

 

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Response to FM123 (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:58 PM

15. Gabbard Both Sides DO IT!

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:42 AM

24. Exactly!

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 12:31 AM

18. the way she said it, it was like she thought it was a magic spell or something.

 

i suppose that gets her a gold star from pootie.
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 01:49 AM

19. I feel very, very vindicated after tonight.

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:44 AM

25. Ugh. I was wrong...I thought I could watch this..

 

Let's hope that was the last debate for Ms. Gabbard.
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 09:24 AM

28. She repeated that one an only MISTRUTH 15 TIMES last night....Why??

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 09:25 AM

29. She needs to be gone from the debate stage

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 03:23 PM

34. I love how she tried to get in a dig on Warren

 

Being fit for commander in chief, and they cut her off.

BTW, where are all the rabid Tulsi fanboys? They seem to have disappeared around the time Tulsi said impeachment was bad for America.
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