Tulsi Gabbard's "Regime-Change War" is the language of Putin and Russia

[scheming daemons]

The places you hear that phrase most commonly are on RT (Russia Today), Sputnik, and other Putin-friendly outlets.


*THIS* is why people say she is a Putin puppet. Because she echoes, VERBATIM, Putin talking points.


She *CANNOT* be trusted.

[MustLoveBeagles]

1. I don't like her either

[Claritie Pixie]

2. You got it! If you know what to look for, it's plain as day.

S

[Cha]

3. Hell No.

Link to tweet

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=310434

[dalton99a]

12. +1. He should represent Hawaii in Congress

instead of David Duke's favorite candidate

[Cha]

14. Precisely, dalton! Kai Kahele will

be my 3rd primary opponent of TG's that I will be voting for.. hopefully it's the charm!

[dlk]

4. Tulsi & Trey Gowdy, who knew?

An unusual friendship...

[boomer_wv]

5. wow.

That was a bad answer. The only worse one I could think of would be saying your best republican friend is Ted Cruz or Devin Nunes.

[dlk]

17. Sometimes, people give themselves away...

[LeftInTX]

26. Ew..I missed her answer

I'm babysiitting my toddler granddaughter ..and you know how distracting toddlers can be..

[betsuni]

6. I remember trolls hard at work repeating that President Obama was doing regime change.

[Celerity]

20. I detest Gabbard, but your assertion is pure gaslighting

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303812104576439713197868294

July 12, 2011

The Obama administration for the first time Monday said it supported regime change in Syria, capping a day in which mobs attacked the U.S. Embassy in Damascus and tensions between the two nations escalated.

[betsuni]

21. What?

[Celerity]

22. Obama's Regime-Change Policy in Syria

When you’re a superpower, you can do anything you want to, it seems.

https://www.thenation.com/article/obamas-regime-change-policy-syria/

The Pentagon, the State Department and the CIA are making war plans for Syria. And they’re pretty much announcing them.

Over the weekend, on a visit to Turkey, a NATO member, to meet with Syrian opposition leaders and Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, the Turkish foreign minister, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explicitly declared that Washington’s policy toward Syria is now in what she called the “operational” phase. “We have been closely coordinating over the course of this conflict, but now we need to get into the real details of such operational planning,” she said, adding: “Our intelligence services, our military have very important responsibilities and roles to play, so we are going to be setting up a working group to do exactly that.”

Make no mistake: this is regime change by force. It’s not exactly like Iraq, and it’s not exactly like Libya (yet)—but it’s regime change by force anyway.

In her statement with Davutoglu, Clinton said that the United States is doing the following:

First, supporting the opposition and their efforts to end the violence and begin the transition to a free and democratic Syria without Assad. The United States continues to provide the opposition with communications equipment and other forms of non-lethal assistance and direct financial assistance. We are coordinating our efforts with others who are also providing various forms of support.

snip

[Hortensis]

23. But the term IS now being used in Russian propaganda

given all the hostile propaganda twists.

We should all ask WHY Gabbard has been repeatedly promoting Russian interests in the Middle East. And why Russia is promoting her presidential campaign.

Russia is waging war against us in in OUR nation by embedding corruption in our systems, corrupting conservative politicians, corrupting the viewpoints of our electorate, and corrupting and subverting OUR elections.

We all need to fight it.

[Celerity]

31. you do not win propaganda wars by saying things that simply are not true (ie. that Syria was never

about regime change.)

Being against wars for regime change is hardly a Russian-only stance, hardly a Russian invention. Accepting untruths and chalking off certain stances just because something we detest atm (Russia and Putin, on a number of fronts) happens to use a term every now and then (regime change is a term that has been used for centuries) is called giving in, and is exactly what the aim is of Russia's non-linear warfare and reflex control schemes.

[Hortensis]

32. Sophistry, unintentional or otherwise. If RUSSIA is using it,

and if Gabbard is using it, you shouldn't. You don't actually need to understand why they're pushing this idea. That Russia is trying to destroy your wellbeing is all you should to know to realize you have to stop them.

You wouldn't like living the rest of your life in a destroyed, impoverished, despotic nation. If that seems a lot to imagine Russia capable of, please remember climate change and imagine not addressing it and the end of work as we know it. Famine is common in Russia, just not allowed to be widespread enough to give a bad appearance to the faux elections they put on.

[Celerity]

33. I simply disagree, and the original point I was making still stands. Regime change in Syria was the

stated goal of the Obama administration, to say it was not (like Biden did last night or the poster did in this thread) is factually untrue, as I have already shown.

[Hortensis]

35. We really NEED to stop helping those who would destroy us.

These are serious times.

I'm not saying turn into your grandmother. Keep your principles but stop stooging for your enemies. Understand what they're doing and refuse to help them.

My biggest condemnation of Gabbard, Sanders and others is that they're accepting the lift Putin gives them in this war instead of refusing to be weaponized, fooling themselves they can accept the benefits without betraying those who trust them.

They cannot.

[Celerity]

36. I do not support Gabbard at all, and I recently changed my mind and now think she will (and should)

lose her congressional seat as well (if she even runs again). I also do not support Sanders at all for POTUS, I think he would be an electoral disaster and understand the extent that Russia tried boost him (and especially Stein) in 2016, although I believe he himself did not support any of Russia's interference.

out of curiosity

I'm not saying turn into your grandmother. Keep your principles but stop stooging for your enemies. Understand what they're doing and refuse to help them.

Who are you referring to as stooging for your enemies?

Gabbard? (I can see that case being made)

[Hortensis]

37. Everyone who pretends Russia is not in it. AND

the Republicans are also here and everywhere we go, trying to turn us and play us for fools -- to destroy us.

These aren't the good old days. We're at war, and as voters we are tiny powers, targets and pawns to be captured, in a giant battle for power. We have to be smarter than those who came before us needed to be. Our nation is in even greater danger than during the Civil War. At least then half the nation would have continued as a liberal democracy.

This is NOT about moderate or bold liberal change, which healthcare system we choose, a dangerously clueless notion. It's about whether we will continue to have the ability to choose any government system at all.

[scipan]

38. You are correct.

And, that type of argument is a very bad argument.

[TryLogic]

7. Time for Tulsi to go home.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

8. She's plastered Iowa with billboards and parts of Des Moines with yard signs

At this point, I think she is auditioning for Veep. Klobuchar, Mayor Pete, & Harris have much better shots, IMO.

[sheshe2]

10. The only way she becomes VP....

is if she runs with...……………….never mind.

[sheshe2]

9. She was, in a word...

Unfuggingbelievable.

Ok, I made up my own word.

Bye Tulsi.

[Docreed2003]

27. What???

You didn't enjoy her robotic responses and the automaton-like movements as she turned as a surrogate debate moderator to question Warren time and again??


(Even Elizabeth made faces of exasperation with her nonsense)



Frankly I was shocked more than once last night about her positions and her framing of issues. Frankly, we should all be suspicious. Just my 2c!

[sheshe2]

30. Ha!

I fully agree with your 2c!

[FM123]

11. Yep. And she didn't miss one chance to take a dig at Dems tonight....

When she said she agreed with Hillary's statement about abortion she also had to throw in that there were so many things she did not agree with and when she said there was blood on trump's hands about the Kurds she also had to throw in that there was blood on the hands of our congress on both sides....come on, really?!?

[dalton99a]

13. She has no business being in the Democratic Party

that she despises so much

[FM123]

16. Despise. That's exactly the word - she can barely hide how she feels.

[Cha]

15. Gabbard Both Sides DO IT!

[FM123]

24. Exactly!

[mopinko]

18. the way she said it, it was like she thought it was a magic spell or something.

i suppose that gets her a gold star from pootie.

[phleshdef]

19. I feel very, very vindicated after tonight.

[mindfulNJ]

25. Ugh. I was wrong...I thought I could watch this..

Let's hope that was the last debate for Ms. Gabbard.

[Pachamama]

28. She repeated that one an only MISTRUTH 15 TIMES last night....Why??

[mcar]

29. She needs to be gone from the debate stage

[FrankBooth]

34. I love how she tried to get in a dig on Warren

Being fit for commander in chief, and they cut her off.

BTW, where are all the rabid Tulsi fanboys? They seem to have disappeared around the time Tulsi said impeachment was bad for America.