What are the ethnic demographics in Queens?

[NurseJackie]

This kinda reminds me of the rally he held in an historically black church in a predominantly black neighborhood in the majority black city of North Charleston, SC. But, oddly enough (and very telling) was the fact that the ethnic diversity of those who attended was MORE white than Vermont.

All I'm saying is that BS has a problem with the AA and POC communities, and without them on board, he doesn't have a prayer.

Link to tweet

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. This:

The U.S. Census Bureau reports that the population of Queens is 50% white, 28% Hispanic, 24% Asian, 21% black, and 3% mixed race. Almost half (48%) of Queens residents are foreign born, and 56% speak a language other than English at home. Some of the largest ethnic groups are Chinese (9%), West Indian (7%), Italian (7%), Indian (5%), and Irish (5%). https://www.brownstoner.com/queens/news/get-the-facts-the-demographics-of-queens-and-whats-changing/

[NurseJackie]

2. Interesting. (Thank you.)

[thesquanderer]

5. "50% white, 28% Hispanic, 24% Asian, 21% black, and 3% mixed" equals 126% (n/t)

[StarfishSaver]

32. Hispanics are often counted twice - as Hispanic and also as white or black

So these numbers actually add up.

[brush]

22. Better check your figures. Queens isn't 50% white. It's maybe half that as Queens is as diverse...

as it comes.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. Not my figures. Direct cut and paste from the source.

[brush]

29. They add up to way more than 100%.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

30. Still, they're not my numbers.

I don't know what the correct ones are. I quoted from a site that presumably does (they said they were census figures). I've never been to Queens. I don't know who lives there.

[brush]

33. It's very diverse. Every faith and ethnic group is there and maybe a fourth is white.

[Otto Lidenbrock]

3. "Bernie Sanders Rally By Queensbridge Houses Blindsides Residents"

LONG ISLAND CITY, QUEENS — As Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders and his supporters flocked to Queensbridge Park for a campaign rally Saturday, residents who live across the street in Queensbridge Houses — the nation's largest public housing project — were in their monthly tenant association meeting.

No one had told them about the Sanders rally, they said.

April Simpson, president of the Queensbridge Tenants Association, said she got a call from the Sanders campaign only the day before to inform her about the rally and ask if she was attending. She told the campaign staffer about the scheduling conflict.

"These people were coming from near, far — but they weren't from Queensbridge," Simpson told Patch in an interview. "That rally wasn't for us."

Simpson said there were no flyers publicizing the rally in Queensbridge's buildings, which more than 6,000 people call home.

A Sanders campaign spokesperson said the team handed out flyers to Queensbridge residents going in and out of their buildings on Friday, the day before the rally, and had reached out to Simpson as soon as they got her contact information and invited her to meet with Sanders.

But Simpson said she felt slighted.

"The residents that were sitting in the meeting, they said they found out from all the people going past," Simpson added, calling the lack of outreach "disrespectful."

And yet Queensbridge Houses served as a rallying cry for the elected officials on stage Saturday, including U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who was there to officially endorse the Vermont senator for president.

"Let's acknowledge the ground that we are on, which is the ground zero for the fight for public housing, and fully funded, dignified housing in the United States of America," Ocasio-Cortez said during the rally, according to a Gothamist report.

Corbin Trent, a campaign spokesperson for Ocasio-Cortez, declined to comment for this story.

Bishop Mitchell Taylor, a community leader who grew up in Queensbridge Houses, said he was concerned the Sanders campaign didn't reach out to residents prior to the rally and added that it "seemed to be a pretty white rally " when he passed by.

"They chose a picture over a population," he said in an interview. "How could you use Queensbridge Park as your rallying point but not engage Queensbridge people as a part of the rally?"

The Sanders campaign previously told a news reporter for Gothamist that staffers had posted flyers leading up to the rally but didn't specify where the flyers were.

Instead, it was the flood of attendees emerging from the 21st Street-Queensbridge F train station that clued many Queensbridge residents in to what was happening in the park that bears the same name as their home.

"Everybody was like, 'What's going on?'" community activist and lifelong Queensbridge resident Billy Robinson, 55, told Patch. "We just saw a stream of people coming from the subway to the park with Bernie Sanders signs."

"You've got the biggest projects in the world, and you didn't even let the people there know what's going on in their own neighborhood," Robinson said.

https://patch.com/new-york/astoria-long-island-city/queensbridge-residents-say-they-didnt-know-sanders-rally

[George II]

10. As I mentioned over the weekend, the highlight of the event was to be the appearance of AOC...

...for her endorsement of Sanders.

Logically, being held in Queens, one would have thought it would have taken place in HER District, the 14th District, the border of which is only a few hundred yards from the location of the rally.

There are several more suitable venues within the 14th District, most notably Citifield (which may not have been available), Astoria Park (about 3X the size of Queensbridge Park), Flushing Meadow Corona Park (the location of the 1964-1965 World's Fair), and the USTA National Tennis Center - all of which are in the 14th District. There are also a couple of parks in the Bronx section of the 14th District.

One wonders why it wasn't held at any of those.

[NurseJackie]

12. I think BS has already written-off the AA and POC voters.

"You've got the biggest projects in the world, and you didn't even let the people there know what's going on in their own neighborhood," Robinson said.

I think BS has already written-off the AA and POC voters. Obviously.

Sad.

[betsuni]

44. Interesting. Thanks for posting!

[Docreed2003]

51. This really pisses me off

Using a community as a backdrop without actually engaging with the members of that very community is a slap in the face to those individuals and makes any claims you might make during that rally ring hollow.


Would it really have been too much work to actually reach out to the community well in advance and engage with them? Or was it more important to have a "bounce back rally" for Sanders?

I don't think the Sanders camp has learned anything from 2016. This type of action mirrors what happened on the ground in South Carolina in '16 when seasoned SC politicians and civil rights activists reached out to the Sanders campaign to offer help and they were told, essentially, "Nah, we're good..."

[Sanity Claws]

4. Where in Queens was the rally held?

People don’t realize how large Queens is. Its population is about 2.5 million.
My guess is that this is NW Queens, which is more heavily immigrant than the numbers cited by another poster.

[George II]

6. Queens County is a very diverse county. If it wasn't part of New York City....

...it alone would be the fourth largest city in the country behind Los Angeles, Chicago, and Brooklyn (also part of New York City)

As of 2012:

27.9% Hispanic or Latino.
27.2% of the population is white
20.9% African American
24.8% Asian

No doubt the white % is lower and the other three are higher by now.

The backdrop of that mostly white crowd in your OP photograph, right across the street from the rally, is The Queensbridge Houses, the largest housing project in North America.

That housing project is:

61.4% African American
30.1% Hispanic and Latino
2.3% white
1.9% Asian.

[NurseJackie]

8. 61.4% African American ... They clearly weren't interested in the BS speech.

He really does have a difficult time in connecting with the AA and POC communities, doesn't he?

With that in mind (and the fact that the BS campaign has pretty-much "written off" those voters) it seems pretty obvious to me that he doesn't stand a prayer of being our party's nominee.

[jberryhill]

7. There are only 13 of them... Here's a bunch...

[NurseJackie]

9. LOL! Great research! They're all lovely!

[jberryhill]

11. Hard to find a queen without poise

[George II]

15. Bazinga!

[George II]

14. "IN" Queens, not "OF" Queens...

[jberryhill]

17. Oh... I'm like... "Mostly middle-aged to older, wealthy..."

As far as ethnicity goes, they are mostly native to the country where they are a queen, with the exception of Queen Noor of Jordan.

Edit to add:

Oh, yeah, the Queen of Zamunda...

[brush]

13. You can't get much more ethnic diversity than Queens. Every race and faith is there.

Bernie and his rallies—he had plenty of those in 2016 and they didn't seem to translate into votes.

Sorry, pushing 80 with two recent heart events doesn't inspire confidence that there won't be another one.

[NurseJackie]

19. Agreed. He definitely does not have the confidence (or support) of the AA community...

Agreed. He definitely does not have the confidence (or support) of the AA community... or other POC communities. Without their support, he doesn't stand a prayer of being our party's nominee.

He should withdraw now. Save his breath (and stress on his heart) and return to one of his three houses in Vermont... and faithfully serve out his term as the Senator from Vermont.

[cwydro]

16. His campaign would do better to get busy with GOTV efforts in those same housing projects.

Kind of sad, really.

[NurseJackie]

43. Myopic. Short sighted.

Selfish. Sad.

GOTV is most important.

[ritapria]

18. Bernie is doing well with Latino Voters

Biden is dominating the African - American vote .. Liz has the greatest problem of the Top Candidates in drawing People of Color - at least in some of the high quality polling that use large sample size …...The media love Warren so you rarely hear about her problems attracting votes from POC ……….

[NurseJackie]

20. LOL!

Biden is dominating the African - American vote

[George II]

25. According to a Univision poll from July (admittedly about 3 months old, right after the 1st debate):

Hispanic support of the candidates:

Harris 22%
Castro 18%
Biden 16%
Sanders 16%
Warren 9%

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/latino-votes-could-swing-democratic-primary-candidates-know-it-n1031966

[lunamagica]

35. Where did you get that Sanders is doing well with Latino voters?

[ismnotwasm]

21. Yikes.

That’s disturbing

[NurseJackie]

23. Indeed! It was a golden opportunity to engage the AA and POC communities...

Indeed! It was a golden opportunity to engage the AA and POC communities... there they were! Right there! Just yards away!

Yet, not an invitation or flyer or announcement was made. The BS campaign has written them off.

The BS campaign doesn't care. (He's got a lousy campaign staff.) Sadly that reflects on the candidate as well.

He doesn't have a prayer of being our party's nominee.

Especially after his "fainting spell" and his heart attack and his stents... It's unclear to me why he even continues. I think he should just go ahead and withdraw now.

[Celerity]

24. The neighbourhood it was in (Long Island City) is around 14% White

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Island_City#Demographics

The racial makeup of the neighborhood was 14.7% (2,946) White, 25.9% (5,183) African American, 0.3% (62) Native American, 15.5% (3,096) Asian, 0.0% (6) Pacific Islander, 1.2% (248) from other races, and 1.9% (385) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 40.5% (8,104) of the population

[NurseJackie]

26. But the photo isn't.

I think the BS campaign missed an opportunity. Was it a fatal oversight? Or have they just completely written-off the possibility of getting ANY support at all from the AA and POC communities?

It's like the BS campaign isn't even trying any more. So what's the point?

[George II]

27. The project in the background of the photo is the Queensbridge Houses where roughly 7,000....

....people live. It's about 61% African American, 30% Hispanic and Latino, and only 2% white.

BTW, just to it's south is the Queensborough (now Ed Koch) Bridge and several subway lines including the 7 line, which I took into Manhattan for high school (3 years) and college (5-1/2 years). I know the area well!

[lunamagica]

36. How can that be? Were all those white people bussed/took the train there?

[Celerity]

34. He's actually doing the 2nd best with POC (Biden is obviously top there) If Pete were pulling Bernie

numbers with POC and Bernie was pulling Pete's, it would be a 3 way race, Biden, then Warren, then Pete, and Bernie would be toast even now (he will be anyway, down the road). Unfortunately, Pete is nowhere near Bernie or even Warren level with my fellow blacks voters and I do not see that changing much atm, unless he does very well (even may have to win it) in IA and then NH, which would be a huge help in NV, which, then would perhaps portend a very decent showing in SC, etc etc.

In the new (very favourable to Biden) A rated national poll from SurveyUSA, Bernie is pulling 18% of A-A's and (so surprisingly) doing even better with conservatives (24% to Biden's 33%) and also is 2nd to Biden with moderates at 17%

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=3f8c15c0-bab5-4d13-b944-5b368f707417

[Blue_true]

37. They can simply be disorganized.

The handing out flyers the day before was a red flag of disorganization for me. They just set up a rally, without consulting with nearby residents.

[NurseJackie]

38. It is. My expectations and standards are higher.

We deserve better.

[sheshe2]

31. Swing and a miss.

[IronLionZion]

39. Queens County Census figures

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/queenscountyqueensboroughnewyork/POP645217

non-hispanic white 25%
black 20.7%
Asian 26.8%
Hispanic or Latino 28.1%

Looks to be very diverse

[NurseJackie]

40. The crowd looks like Vermont.

Go figure.

[IronLionZion]

41. Maybe everyone else didn't want to take the day off to go to rallies

[NurseJackie]

46. I think there's more to it than a mere scheduling conflict.

[George II]

47. Hah! It was Saturday...........

[IronLionZion]

48. I'm a minority, I've worked many Saturdays and Sundays

As do a lot of low income working people of all types who don't want to lose a day's wages to go to a political rally.

[George II]

45. "Looks to be very diverse" - unlike the attendees of the rally. By the numbers....

The housing project behind the rally has a mere 140 or so white residents, whereas the rally had about 80%+ white residents, or roughly 20,000 (including the claimed 5,000 overflow crowd)

[Cha]

42. Yeah, what's up with that?!

kinda weird.

Mahalo, Jackie!

[myohmy2]

49. I think...

...this is silly...the election is over a year away...

...who ever our candidate may be, are AA's and POC going to vote for trump or sit-out the most clear, defining and polarized election of our lifetime?...I don't think so,

...AA's and POC will be voting for Bernie in huge overwhelming numbers...

...

[NurseJackie]

50. LOL!

AA's and POC will be voting for Bernie in huge overwhelming numbers...

Who is feeling the Bern? In North Charleston, it was a mostly-white crowd
https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/who-is-feeling-the-bern-in-north-charleston-it-was/article_851b29d6-471e-11e9-bc24-7f7b68686e53.html

Black voters are a pivotal voting bloc in the South Carolina presidential Democratic primary, accounting for more than 60 percent of voters.

BS won't win South Carolina... BS won't be our party's nominee.

[betsuni]

52. K&R

[Peacetrain]

53. Wow that looks like Des Moines Iowa...

Maybe a little more vanilla than Des Moines Iowa..I thought Queens was a more diverse area??