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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 09:19 PM Oct 2019

Tulsi Gabbard is Being Used by the Russians, and to a US Double Agent, the Evidence is Clear

This guy spells it out pretty well. Not about accusing her of being in cahoots - but her refusal to disavow their support kinda speaks volumes.

Much has been made of Hillary Clinton's implication that Tulsi Gabbard is someone Russia has "their eye on." While Gabbard has responded with claims that she is the subject of a coordinated smear campaign by Clinton, she has steadfastly refused to renounce any Russian support she may be receiving. As somebody who worked against Russian intelligence, I agree with Clinton's assessment—Gabbard's campaign and messaging are at risk of being weaponized to interfere with and manipulate our election.

The allegation that Gabbard may be benefiting from Russian support is disturbing for many reasons. Democracy demands inclusion and debate of all ideas, whether or not they fall within the mainstream of a political party—and this extends to Gabbard as well. Her claims of a smear or McCarthy-style campaign to silence her have a level of legitimacy. However, while we must ensure that all the presidential candidates are free to speak and present their ideas, whether or not they are considered controversial, these messages must be free from foreign amplification and manipulation. Therein lies my chief concern: that Moscow will use its skillful propaganda machine to prop up Gabbard and use her as a tool to delegitimize the democratic process.

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If borne out, Russian support of Gabbard does not mean that she is a Russian-directed operative, or that she has ties with or is in contact with Moscow. As I learned during my operational time working against Russian intelligence, the targeting of U.S. persons for recruitment by a foreign intelligence service does not make that person guilty of a crime. The same holds true if Russia seeks to independently aid the Gabbard campaign. Russia may choose to covertly amplify her message by building what may look like organic and grass roots online support for her. They may take some of her talking points—such as, Assad "is not the enemy of the U.S." or that the U.S. is in "a new nuclear arms race"—and work to increase their reach across social media.

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https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-being-used-russians-former-us-double-agent-evidence-clear-opinion-1466750
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Tulsi Gabbard is Being Used by the Russians, and to a US Double Agent, the Evidence is Clear (Original Post) redqueen Oct 2019 OP
Yup. This should be obvious. AZ8theist Oct 2019 #1
Rolling Stone says there's a bit of silly biscuits rolling around in this Gabbard thing DemocracyMouse Oct 2019 #6
Matt Taibbi radical noodle Oct 2019 #8
I know a Repug who would vote for her. padfun Oct 2019 #2
I was told by a republican that she was the only dem Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #3
Sanders just backed Tulsi against Hillary's charge. Crowman Oct 2019 #4
I read that Beto, Yang and Marianne Whatever BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #5
Yang said a nice thing about treating her with respect after this first erupted. redqueen Oct 2019 #7
Beto signed the indivisible pledge nt liskddksil Oct 2019 #9
This article from August is worth the time. Skidmore Oct 2019 #11
K&R Tarheel_Dem Oct 2019 #10
K&R betsuni Oct 2019 #12
Maddow warns Russia is interfering in the 2020 election in 'exactly the same way' as they did in 201 Gothmog Oct 2019 #13
Thank you for posting this! betsuni Oct 2019 #14
 

AZ8theist

(5,461 posts)
1. Yup. This should be obvious.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 09:58 PM
Oct 2019

Especially after her denunciation of impeachment of the most criminally corrupt traitor in US history.

AND ...running to Faux "News" to plead her case. On Tucker FUCKING Carlson no less...

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radical noodle

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8. Matt Taibbi
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 11:56 PM
Oct 2019

That pretty much says it all.

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padfun

(1,786 posts)
2. I know a Repug who would vote for her.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:57 PM
Oct 2019

He was never really a trump fan but said he liked Tulsi and would vote for her if she went third party.

This guy would never vote for a Democrat and considers himself a "Libertarian". He didn't like Trump when he attacked his candidate, Rand Paul. He voted for Trump but only because of "Hillary" or so he says. He is a sucker for some Right wing propaganda.

So if she can grab those Repug votes if going third party, that at least is a consolation prize. I still don't want her anywhere near the Democratic Party myself.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
3. I was told by a republican that she was the only dem
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 11:25 PM
Oct 2019

They would consider voting for. So how did he even know her? Wish I had asked. This is weird. Why would the GOP/Russians be pushing a Dem candidate to the right?

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Crowman

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4. Sanders just backed Tulsi against Hillary's charge.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 11:29 PM
Oct 2019
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/21/bernie-sanders-slams-hillary-clinton-claim-tulsi-gabbard-russian-asset/4058621002/

10-21 -Bernie Sanders Tweet.
"Tulsi Gabbard has put her life on the line to defend this country," Sanders said in a tweet Monday. "People can disagree on issues, but it is outrageous for anyone to suggest that Tulsi is a foreign asset."

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BigmanPigman

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5. I read that Beto, Yang and Marianne Whatever
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 11:33 PM
Oct 2019

all support her (over the past few days that is).

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redqueen

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7. Yang said a nice thing about treating her with respect after this first erupted.
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 11:49 PM
Oct 2019

Which I wouldn't have done considering her response. I figured it was a generic act of bonhomie, not a flag raised in support.

Now that Tulsi has refused to disavow any foreign support, as Yang did with the alt-right, I'm hoping he doesn't follow Bernie's lead on this.

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liskddksil

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9. Beto signed the indivisible pledge nt
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 11:59 PM
Oct 2019
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Gothmog

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13. Maddow warns Russia is interfering in the 2020 election in 'exactly the same way' as they did in 201
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:08 AM
Oct 2019
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betsuni

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14. Thank you for posting this!
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 10:10 AM
Oct 2019
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