Sanders launches first ad touting AOC endorsement

[Uncle Joe]

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"Take a look around you and find someone you don't know. Maybe somebody who doesn't look kind of like you. Are you willing to fight for that person as much as you're willing to fight for yourself?” Sanders said. “If you and millions of others are prepared to do that, not only will we win this election, but together we will transform this country."

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The phrase, “I'm willing to fight for someone I don’t know” has taken off online, with progressive activists, Sanders fans, and even some Hollywood stars, such as actors Don Cheadle and Piper Perabo, tweeting out the message of solidarity.

At the event, Sanders also said, "Are you willing to fight for young people drowning in student debt even if you are not? Are you willing to fight to ensure that every American has health care as a human right even if you have good health care? Are you willing to fight for frightened immigrant neighbors even if you are native-born?"

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In addition to the first paid ad featuring Ocasio-Cortez, the Sanders campaign unveiled this weekend a video featuring her endorsement of Sanders. It has nearly 3 million views on Twitter.


https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/22/sanders-ad-ocasio-cortez-endorsement-054966

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Some nice responses on those tweets.


FYI: The author of this article is the daughter of a D.U. member

[Kurt V.]

1. K&R

[George II]

2. He's putting up the wrong example if he want to convince people that there are some...

..."drowning in student debt".

She's been out of college for about four or five years, owes $18,000, and earning $174,000 a year. Should American taxpayer dollars be used to forgive that debt?

[sheshe2]

3. Good job!

Good find.

[emmaverybo]

4. No! And I have student debt, fixed and small income. Do not believe in canceling 95 percent. We can

do this much more wisely and still give relief.

My God! Children’s lunches, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, all threatened; underfunded social Services programs nationwide. Massive, Nation-wide foreclosure, but the priority is for young college educated making good salaries?

Guess why...

PS today read EMS suffering in rural America. Inadequate. People die.

[ritapria]

5. The taxpayers cancelled the bankers debt to the tune of nearly a trillion dollars

after they sent the country into a near death spiral economic collapse …….. It is quite fitting that revenue from a Wall Street financial transaction tax ends student debt ……………..

[George II]

8. Fact - the bailout wasn't nearly a trillion dollars, it was originally $700 billion....

...and that was lowered to $475 billion by Congress in 2010. The banks paid it all back and more.

It's a misnomer the bank debt was "cancelled".

[JoeOtterbein]

10. How much "interest" did the banks "pay back" on that loan?

[George II]

13. I don't know exactly, but the government got back more than they loaned the banks.....

and the original premise that the banks' debt was "cancelled" is flat out false.

[JoeOtterbein]

15. Do you know how much the banks claimed they lost on their taxes?

My guess is they paid back a big goose-egg in any kind of penalty or "interest".

And no one was locked up for obvious financial corruption in almost completely wrecking our economy. We should never make that big fat mistake again.

And then these are the same people who declare over and over that we can't "afford" universal healthcare.

It's shameful.

That is why Bernie has been the leader of Dem ideas in the past few years. And still is.

[George II]

17. The banks paid back more than they received from the "bailout". Their debt was not "cancelled"....

Now, can you answer my original question back in post #2, specifically:

She's been out of college for about four or five years, owes $18,000, and earning $174,000 a year. Should American taxpayer dollars be used to forgive that debt?

[betsuni]

24. $41.9 billion from interest and dividends.

According to the Treasury. ProPublica says 31.9 billion.

[emmaverybo]

19. So many other needs and needy people to invest it in in addition to college debt. Not all college

debtors have great hardship paying. In my area, with stock options, many under 40 year olds make 400, 000 per year. Over 100, 000 per not unusual. Why should the subsidy net be cast so
wide?
Get forgiveness programs up and running. Aid low income first and families. Cut interest. Freeze interest during forebearance, Spend half as much and shore up social security fir the future,
end foreclosure debt—that is putting people out of their homes.

So much more. Pet causes do not create real income equality.

[Blue_true]

26. I disagree with you.

The only people that should get tuition relief are teachers and Doctors and Nurses that agree to serve for a certain number of years in underserved areas. Those people are making a direct public service and as such should benefit from making the choice to do so.

I really don't care if a person post college is poor due to the job he or she has, that person made a choice of profession, there historically has been a price to pay for that. If a person wants to be an actor, actress, writer or moviemaker, then work extra to wait tables or work as a ranch hand, farm hand or construction worker like John Steinbeck did.

[emmaverybo]

30. Well, there's that point of view. I do believe we have a relief mechanism in the loan forgiveness

programs, but currently, and due to a kind of technical glitch, 98 percent are turned down who are eligible having done the years of service required. I would give further relief, but nothing like Sanders or Warren offer.

I do feel near-total amnesty favors college educated people who took out loans, rather than other
groups—and you have a point in that we choose our majors, have some control, especially if educated, over our economic future, though there is also the argument that tremendous competition has meant college grads can end up coffee baristas no matter how well they did in
college and how hard they have looked for better paying jobs.

I favor a middle path, addressing some college incurred debt relief, but not a lopsided investment in
one demographic, one type of economic hardship. I am absolutely against universal benefits for
higher income people that lower income tax payers would pay for. Not with currently existing social
safety net threatened, a record high deficit, so many areas needing investment.

[Blue_true]

44. I believe that people that go into the Fine Arts make important contributions to society when

they are serious about their field. But I believe that public school teachers have a far, far greater impact, including Fine Arts teachers. Like I said, Doctors and Nurses that serve the underserved come next in my pecking order. They should get almost total college expense relief, as long as their spending meet standards of reason (no expensive partying knowing that their debt will be wiped out, for example).

You touched on a lot and I believe hit some of the complexity of college expense relief. I favor Warren, followed by Biden. But I do believe Warren's idea of wiping out college debt is a non-starter, people must have put some skin in the game, if not, we are going to end up with a lot of the wrong type of people going to college. Longer term, I would like to see a housing dorm building boom at public colleges and trade schools and I would like to see a change where undergraduates must stay in the dorms and eat via a campus-wide meal plan, with emphasis being put on nutritious meals. Graduate and professional level students would have a chance to either live in university housing or in private housing, with a strong emphasis put on them chosing university or trade school housing. Also, we should greatly expand the number of teaching and lab assistant jobs available to grad students and law students, training Doctors can be sent into community clinics to assist staff in those places to make money and gain practical experience.

[oldsoftie]

7. Thats not the only problem she has either.

But get into that here & you'll get blasted

[Thekaspervote]

12. I'll gladly jump on that!

Supports women... really?

She and sanders went to KS to campaign against Sherice David’s in ‘18 for a guy that sanders liked. Sherice David’s... the 1st Native American woman elected to Congress

A few days b4 madam speaker announces an impeachment inquiry AOC publicly denigrates speaker Pelosi saying it’s a bigger scandal that she and those in power have not called for impeachment than trump breaking the law. Certainly no praise for Pelosi following the impeachment announcement and no apology!

At the recent rally in queens she praised sanders saying he was for the public option. That she was on CHIP as a kid so they had enough to eat. Any praise for the woman that was the force behind CHIP??? Hillary Clinton... nope!! Not to mention, did she do any research on that? Bernie Sanders voted AGAINST CHIP!

NOT A FAN.

[George II]

14. She neglected to point out Saturday that Sanders voted twice against the bill that enacted CHIP:

clerk.house.gov/evs/1997/roll241.xml

clerk.house.gov/evs/1997/roll345.xml

[Thekaspervote]

16. Again, did she do any research? Any praise for the bold women that came before her?

And are still leading the fight? Ughhh!!

[betsuni]

25. +1

[myohmy2]

40. "Should American taxpayer dollars be used to forgive that debt?"

...yes...

...educating our citizens should be our society's job...

...let her and her generation spend their income on new homes and create a ton of good paying jobs...

...

[George II]

42. Someone who is earning $174K per year with $18K student debt should not have to pay that debt?

What's your rationale? How about car loans, mortgage, restaurant checks, grocery bills...all free???

[myohmy2]

45. no...

...just education...

[oldsoftie]

6. Sorry Bernie, but your time is over. Your numbers are stagnant and wont go higher.

Gotta live in the real world. ALL of us

[JoeOtterbein]

11. We need to stop saving money for the Repubs to spend on old stupid wars.

Spend it on us for a change.

[George II]

18. If we stop dividing Democrats and pull together and get Democrats elected, republicans...

....will no longer be in a position to spend money on "old stupid wars".

[oldsoftie]

21. Wish we had a "like" button

[LongtimeAZDem]

29. +1

[Uncle Joe]

22. Recommended!

Take care of our peoples' (domestic) long overdue needs, making it the priority.

I truly believe if we did that more Democrats would get elected.

[vsrazdem]

9. Go Bernie!

[Uncle Joe]

20. ...

[Joe941]

23. This is a turning point for Bernie!

[chillfactor]

27. are not fans of bernie or aoc......n/t

[VarryOn]

28. As an undecided, getting AOC's endorsement hurt Sanders...

In my eyes. He went from standing a 8.6% chance of getting vote to a 4.2%. Still, he's 2x the chance that Robert O'Rourke, so it could be worsefor Sanders!

[Tiggeroshii]

32. This endorsement will bring him back to a close second, if not first place in less than a week from

today in the averages of polls. I'll throw a couple bucks on that prediction.

[NurseJackie]

34. Bookmarking.

[Tiggeroshii]

36. Hit me up in a couple weeks.

If I'm wrong, I have venmo.

[Tiggeroshii]

31. As he should.

AOC started with Bernie Sanders, built herself up to be one of the most influential political figures in less than a year, and is using that influence to guide this election where she thinks is best. It's pretty spectacular if you ask me.

[NurseJackie]

33. Sorry. Notoriety or "fame" is not the same as being influential and having legislative successes.

[Tiggeroshii]

35. "influential" is not limited to legislative successes.

Developing a large following, and using your persuasion to build following to your causes is also an enormous feat in the area of "influence."

[NurseJackie]

37. That's a low bar. I guess I just have higher standards.

[Tiggeroshii]

38. do you mean different* standards?

Your standard works for passing legislation that isn't even popular among the vast majority of people, and therefore arguably having no influence except for what everybody already agrees on. My standard involves persuading folks to push for legislation in order to fight extraneous influence to favor the interests of the vast majority of people.

[NurseJackie]

39. I said what I meant: higher standards.

A half a loaf (or slow progress that involves compromise and finding common ground) is always better than zero progress in search of a fantasy world "ideal" and then boasting to one's colleagues and constituents that the reason they have no-loaf is due to an unwillingness to compromise, an inability to find common ground, and being able to afford the luxury of making a personal statement of purity.

I live in the real world... the candidates and politicians that I admire the most live in the real-world too.

All I'm saying is that I have higher standards and realistic expectations. Progress, no matter how slow, is still progress. Everything else is just talk and pride.

[Tiggeroshii]

43. I don't disagree entirely.

But I absolutely admire her tenacity and believe she deserves the credit due to her. I personally believe we are part of a larger movement -not just bernie's, but all of us on the correct side of the aisle are, like you say, moving things in the right direction. Some want it tomorrow, others are getting it done incrementally. And you're right, there's a good case to be made that without the incremental change it wouldn't happen at all. But I also think that without those pushing for it strongly from the left, it also wouldn't be happening. One way or another it's happening and I'm proud of all of us for advocating, voting and working hard o make it. I know it doesn't seem like it sometimes but we've all been on the same team and moving things vastly in the way things should go.

[myohmy2]

41. excellent...

"...not only will we win this election, but together we will transform this country. "

...this is what it's all about...not just winning an election for myself, or a better political position for my Party, but actually transforming America...

...and God only knows, America desperately needs transforming...

...this is why Bernie's star will continue to rise, this why Bernie's message and candidacy resonates, this is why Bernie can not be derailed, this is why Bernie will be our next President...

...hang in there and enjoy the ride...

[George II]

46. "this is why Bernie's star will continue to rise"...sorry, it's been falling for weeks if not months