Democratic Primaries
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The Mouth
(3,149 posts)Most of the states that would have to approve would lose influence.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)This is just another promise EW knows she can't keep, but still uses to gin up excitement for her campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redqueen
(115,103 posts)What a weird thing to claim.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueTsunami2018
(3,491 posts)Theres absolutely no way this is enacted. The Republicans would never win another Presidential election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)It's not enough just to eliminate it; you have to create some sort of constitutional review process for elections. That, in my opinion, will make crafting of a passable amendment impossible.
The problems are suppression and gerrymandering.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)get to you!
Elizabeth doesn't!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MarcA
(2,195 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
But don't let either get you down!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boomer_wv
(673 posts)Wasnt she a constitutional law professor? I'm pretty sure she is aware that the electoral college is constitutionally mandated and would need ratification to pass. That is essentially impossible since a number of those states would be harming themselves to do so.
This is typical Warren. She is making promises she knows she cant possibly keep and hoping everyone is too stupid to realize it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Mouth
(3,149 posts)Anyone who thinks the Electoral College is going to go away is an idiot.
ANYONE.
It isn't happening.
It would be like Yang saying that 2+2 =5. I'd be going 'WTF? you know better than that, and anyone who isn't either illiterate or really, really stupid does too!"
I get WHY she, and many hate it, I like a lot of her plans and used to think she was pretty smart.
Really simple:
All 27 Amendments have been ratified after two-thirds of the House and Senate approve of the proposal and send it to the states for a vote. Then, three-fourths of the states must affirm the proposed Amendment.
TWO THIRDS of house AND senate
3/4 of the states, including a LOT of small ones who would essenially give up the totality of their influence on the presidential election.
stupid, stupid, stupid.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Have you made a positive comment about Elizabeth Warren?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Mouth
(3,149 posts)She's long been my second choice, after first Pete and then Yang.
She's probably the most knowledgeable person running, and maybe who has ever run, regarding the economy, corporate kleptocracy and how to prevent a future meltdown, which is why I'm really unhappy and frankly surprised she'd say something completely idiotic.
I'm not under the slightest obligation to either have supported her or not.
I'm baffled at why such an intelligent person would not only say something blatantly false, but so blatantly false that anyone not an idiot would know it's false.
I could see needing to simplify a bit if one were talking about macroeconomic arcana, maybe simplifying something that people couldn't understand without an advanced education. But saying something verifiably untrue/impossible of the type that anyone who has the slightest knowledge of the Constitution knows is as untrue as a flat earth?
Strange.
The opinion of anyone regarding the Electoral College matters not at all, any more than you, or I, or Senator Warren can rant and rail against gravity or the laws of thermodynamics.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)But this kind of thing is why she's not my first choice. She is willing to play these rhetorical political games and it is disappointing. She does know better.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Mouth
(3,149 posts)Just dismayed and annoyed. She knows better. This isn't Joe mixing up a few words, or Harris coming off like the D.A from hell, this is a highly educated and deeply knowledgeable person saying something that's total bullshit. It would be kind of like Bill Nye saying "there might be something to that flat earth after all"
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)And a great example of why most people hate them.
That's how I see it at least.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Mouth
(3,149 posts)It's one thing for even a good person to get pulled away a little in their hype. It's something else for a highly educated person to say something that anyone with a 7th grade education knows is untrue.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)I was going to say that many people don't seem to get how hard it will be to change it... because of how many people are insisting it be a part of a candidate's policies.
But then having something as a goal is different than giving the impression that it will be done by such and such date... So yeah.... This is worse
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
is about as believable as Trump saying that Mexico was going to pay for the wall. It's nonsense and she knows fully that she can't get it done.
I keep hearing candidates and people here (and Twitter) mocking Biden for saying that he would be able to work with some republicans to pass things, which he was shown he can do before. However, we are expected to just fall in line with people like Warren and Bernie who say they are going to make wholesale changes to everything? How? Magic?
These are things that you know republicans not just won't vote for, but can't vote for. Losing the electoral college would mean that Republicans probably wouldn't have held the Presidency at any point since 1992. Bush would have lost his 1st term and Gore would have had incumbency advantage during his 2nd. It's possible that after all that things would have been so different in 2008 that we couldn't possibly know that Obama would have run or won, but you get the idea. They aren't voting for something that would cost them the WH for a generation, ever.
Unless Warren has some plant to win 67 seats in the Senate, like 300 in the House, and 39 or so state houses, I'm not sure how she plans to get this into the constitution.
I believe that the EC should be abolished, but I also know that it is impossible to do so before 2024, and she knows that too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Sons of silent rage, search through their one inch thoughts then decide it couldn't be done - David Bowie
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)to be the last person that has to drive. I want my next visit to be via teleporting.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)opening herself to failure to keep promises. Even if it happens, it would not be that quick.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,975 posts)in the foreseeable future, let alone the next presidential term.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden