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PETE BUTTIGIEG CRITICIZED BY LGBT MAGAZINE FOR VOLUNTEER WORK WITH 'HOMOPHOBIC' SALVATION ARMYhttps://www.newsweek.com/pete-buttigieg-criticized-lgbt-magazine-volunteering-salvation-army-homophobic-1475464
An LGBT magazine has hit out at Democratic 2020 candidate Pete Buttigieg for volunteering with The Salvation Army, accusing the international church and charity group of being "homophobic."
Out magazine wrote that the mayor of South Bend, Indiana "should have supported an organization... created to cater to the needs of queer people" instead of The Salvation Army in a story resurfacing articles on the presidential primary contender volunteering for the charity.
It also reported that Buttigieg, who is himself a member of the gay community, received a "roasting" on social media Tuesday for his volunteering with the church group.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Jirel
(2,018 posts)I have a friend who works for the Salvation Army, insisting they do really good work. My understanding, however, from my own clients who have received services there is that the organization, at least in this area, is full of hyper-religious, sometimes even abusive people. The organization may have chapters that run the gamut from helpful to horrific, which makes it difficult for a candidate, an elected official who has had to work with the organization in his town where it might even do some good work, to condemn them or even avoid them. Regardless, I agree that it feels troubling that he would show that support when the SA has so vocally condemned LGBT+ folks, and when at least some local bodies have mistreated them based on sexuality or gender.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LonePirate
(13,422 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)That organization is awful.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,180 posts)Last edited Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:51 PM - Edit history (1)
I've seen the work that they do and I think that a lot people would change their opinions of the organization if they ever fell into a predicament where they needed help. There are organizations that are far worse than the Salvation Army.
When I was homeless in Dallas I stayed at a facility where the homeless were allowed to stay for one week without having to pay. After the one week period, the clients were moved onto the list to work at the facility (intake, kitchen duty). After the first week, the clients also had to decide whether to pay $10 a night or enroll in their religious indoctrination program for a month and they were not allowed to leave the facility grounds. How are the homeless going to get out of their predicament if they cannot leave the facilities, have no access to computers to find work, or even beg to keep their phones connected? Meanwhile, the religious brethren that ran the facility arrived in $50,000 SUVs and dressed in their Sunday best wardrobe. There were a few people that stayed at the facility for a year and went through the indoctrination program that were offered minimum wage jobs, but in some ways it could be viewed that the owners had a captive work force that earned less than minimum wage during that year. That facility was supposedly one of the best in the city and was even lauded by the city government.
So tell me which is worse, the Salvation Army, an alternative option facility like I described, or sleeping on the street (especially if you have to carry insulin which requires refrigeration)? While I don't agree with homophobic policies in any organization, beggars can't be choosers and looking at the situation from a different perspective is invaluable. If you don't want to donate to the Salvation Army that is your choice, but actively discouraging other people from making donations or condemning political candidates because they worked with the group crosses the line in my opinion and does more harm than good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)I agree completely. Being homeless sucks. I have been homeless living in shelters for 2 years 4 months.
I am finally on a path to having an apartment again.
In Fort Worth, the Union Gospel Mission, Presbyterian Night Shelter and Salvation Army all provide services to the homeless. And yes, all are faith based. They are under the umbrella of the larger Tarrant County Homeless Coalition.
Not to mention many churches who provide food, shelter, clothing and other services to the homeless.
So bash the Sally and others all you want. I know the truth.
BIW, what is the LGBT community doing to help get people off the streets?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,180 posts)I never expected to be homeless. I have a college degree and while I was employed I kept taking training classes, learning new skills, and even obtained an associate's certification since I felt that it improved my marketability if I ever became unemployed. I tried to be a team player and play by the rules. The fact that I became unemployed was based on two factors: a) I broke my arm and was unable to work for about three months, and b) I had a vindictive boss who took me aside when I returned to work and she never asked how I was doing, but told me that I had a target on my back. That boss made my work life unbearable and she was trying to coerce me to quit so that the company would not have to pay the severance that I earned by sticking with the company for six years after they went into a voluntary liquidation plan.
In this instance, the editors at Out magazine have a disagreement with the policies of the Salvation Army and they can use their platform to call out the organization. However, trying to condemn or smear a political candidate that has been associated with the group is going overboard and diminishes my respect for Out magazine (and I have posted articles from them on DU in the past).
I'm happy to read that you are making headway getting out of the predicament that you're experiencing. I was only in the homeless facility for about one week and I doubt that I could have held myself together if I had to live in that situation for months or years like you have. Good luck with your plans and I hope that you have a great holiday season.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Every year here, there are these anti Salvation Army threads - fyi for all you Salvation Army haters, I add an extra dollar in their pots for every post against them.
So all the haters are actually supporting the Salvation Army. Keep on keepin on!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,686 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,180 posts)but as someone who has been homeless before and who advocates for the homeless, thank you. I'm going to have to go a bit out of the way on my bike today, but I've been inspired to give after this thread.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But I also spread out 50 bucks in various kettles as I went shopping yesterday, all in the name of those who posted hateful things about the Salvation Army.
Every time I see a nasty post here, Ill add a buck to a kettle.
I wish Id thought of this before. The annual bashing gets old, but its the same ole, same ole every year. Giving in the honor of the hateful posts makes me smile.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As it's a quick and convenient excuse, never supported by data but so consistently repeated as a religious litany by less-than-stellar candidates.
Nah, Pete's got too much character to do something as petulant as that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,180 posts)not receive any assistance?
I'm glad that I could offer a different perspective in post #81.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)The objective here is to improve the services offered & delivered, wouldn't you agree? Requiring that someone in need avail themselves of an organization that abuses & dehumanizes them is not an improvement.
The SA is going to do what they want to do. Dehumanizing their clients shouldn't be part of that. What I would hope is that our elected public officials recognize that the SA is often discriminatory, and instead of ignoring it, require that they not discriminate if they expect help from local govt social service agencies. Either the SA will comply, treat all of their clients with dignity & continue in their mission, or they won't, and their mission will fail.
As a public official Buttigieg shouldn't be letting them off the hook.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,180 posts)and replace the Salvation Army? Where are the resources available that another organization is going to try and compete the Salvation Army? If smaller organizations splinter off throughout the country to compete against the Salvation Army there will be higher administrative costs as they lose the economy of scale so how do they improve the services offered and delivered?
It looks like in the quest to address the problem of homophobia that a conundrum will result.
You are also making a claim that the Salvation Army is dehumanizing their clients. What objective proof do you have to offer to back up that statement?
Let's be honest here, Out magazine attacked Pete Buttigieg and the OP who has demonstrated his partisanship in this forum repeatedly was eager to post the article (he will call it "vetting", of course). Would the OP had posted the article if he didn't believe that Buttigieg posed a threat to Sanders? I wasn't born yesterday and after reading the other posts in this thread it looks like other members are also aware of the intention of this thread.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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TexasTowelie
(112,180 posts)and then you accuse me of being okay with the KKK?
Wow, another new member who believes that they are superior and offers moral indignation. What a crock.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)So far, you seem to think discrimination & bigotry is OK when LGBTQ people are involved. Just trying to find out if it extends further.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,180 posts)You will see that I'm supportive of the LGBT community and you can also check the LGBT Group to find that I post frequently there. I'm not okay with any type of discrimination. Making an accusation that I'm okay with discrimination and bigotry can be considered to be a personal attack.
Here are two of the images that I have in my profile:
Are those helpful clues?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)And insinuating that I would cast the homeless aside - as you have done - *IS* a personal attack. So pack up your fake outrage & put it away.
Either discrimination and bigotry is wrong, or it's not. Either it's acceptable, or it's not. Either we allow it to continue, OR WE DON'T!
The Salvation Army shouldn't get a pass on it's well-documented discrimination and bigotry. And Buttigieg shouldn't get a pass on giving them a pass. The fact that you're more than willing to do both shows where you're coming from.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,180 posts)I don't have much money, but I'll be making a donation to the Salvation Army with you in mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
That too will be in all caps.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,405 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,033 posts)Got it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Im gay, and I sure have a problem with homophobia.
But Ive seen them on the ground, first ones into neighborhoods after hurricanes. Ill add a dollar to the next kettle I see in your honor!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,033 posts)Have you ever tried to use the service the salvation army provides? They come with sermons, and of course homophobia.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)And yes, I ate the meals they brought into our neighborhood when we were completely decimated by Hurricane Georges.
They were there again through many other hurricanes I experienced. My girlfriend and I both ate the food (which was not something that was great) but we had been literally smashed by Georges, with no electricity, no gas, no nothing, cars drowned. They didnt question my sexuality or religious beliefs. The Red Cross came the next day or the day after; Ive forgotten.
The manager of their thrift store in Key West was an out gay woman, and her lover worked there too. She lost her home in Wilma, and her bosses at the Salvation Army helped finding housing for her and provided help for her elderly mom.
And no, there were NO sermons served with any meal from their mobile meal trucks. They provide services for gay and trans people in many communities as Ms. Toad pointed out in another thread. I was in Key West during the AIDS crisis, and they provided help to many of those so horribly affected by that plague.
My mother and father, who were quite well off, donated generously to the Salvation Army after I told them of my experiences. They did this until their deaths, and I will continue to do so.
Ill chip in another buck for you tomorrow wherever I see a kettle. You really have no idea about how they operate. Ive been there and seen it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,761 posts)They come with sermons as well and of course pedophilia. You will damn a whole religion?
Like the church the Salvation has it's good points and bad.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RobertDevereaux
(1,857 posts)But the national organization slapped them down.
Not one penny to this sad bunch of bigots!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,360 posts)The charity has also set up a shelter dorm in Las Vegas for members of the transgender community as well as a San Francisco detox facility catering for people with HIV and AIDS, according to Out magazine.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)And Im a gay woman.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)Maybe if nothing else, I can build that bridge, the openly gay 2020 presidential hopeful said on the syndicated radio show, The Breakfast Club on Tuesday. Maybe Ill become in a position to broker that peace deal.
His comments drew laughs from the shows hosts, but are sparking different reactions among some in the LGBTQ community.
Matthew Riemer, an LGBTQ historian and author of the forthcoming book We Are Everywhere: Protest, Power and Pride in the History of Queer Liberation, said Buttigieg missed an opportunity to condemn a company with a legacy of financially backing anti-LGBT organizations.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Piss on groups from the outside. Then there are brave people like Buttigieg who will go into the lions den.
Go Pete!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)Which was before he announced he was officially running for President. The group had concerns about the racism in his police department.
The above example illustrates to me his bravery is intermediate at best.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)At least he is being around them, and getting to know them, and there is a better chance they will come around that constant and solely righteous indignation. That's just acting like they do and deepening the divide.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
patricia92243
(12,595 posts)lot of people will disagree.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Copying from Newsweek does not give this article respectability, Hussein.
As for your capping to make sure no one misses it, I'd also like to think Sanders would object at least to his face being displayed in connection with it. Sanders can only get delegates at the convention IF he can expand his appeal beyond his little base, and this kind of thing is very repellent outside the bubble.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)The sentiment Im seeing on Facebook with gay friends is similar.
For the umpteenth time, Newsweek publishes their headlines like that. Take it up with them.
https://www.newsweek.com/contact
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)said copy or die, imo you should have said no. There was no gun and everyone knows it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)This looks bad for Sanders.
Disqualifying.
Arble-garble.
Derp.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,360 posts)post in Primaries was locked, there would be dozens (hundreds?) less
Bernie supporters LOVE to toss shade on anyone not named Sanders, and the majority of it is shady hit jobs, and OFTEN spun up disingenuous bullshit, if not outright falsehoods (for example the PURE LIE that Zuckerburg was helping run Pete's campaign)
At times, I think Bernie gets some stick that is over the top and unfair, but mostly that goodwill has left me, as his supporters (especially the external, NON-DU ones) often do far worse
and in here, I see super dodgy posts all the time, often from pure Democratic party hating sources like the troll Sirota and that Democrat Party-hating neo-socialist rag Jacobin (and certainly from people who are sympathetic fellow travellers) or the extremely problematic site Common Dreams or that POS Nathan J Robinson (who openly calls Buttigieg a con man but still gets posted here or referenced here)
I have been one of AOC's boosters, I think she has massive potential, BUT even she is now falling into biter-mode, with her rot about 'right wing' talking points, all because a plan covers FREE uni for the bottom 80% of Americans, but doesn't hit the my-way-or-highway purity 100%)
you catch more flies with honey, but 90% of the shit coming out of the far left nether regions in the external world is pure vinegar
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)That is one of the funniest things I've ever read on this site.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,180 posts)There is a rule on DU that the headlines in LBN shouldn't be changed. However, that is a rule--not a law. The forum hosts will even allow some minor changes such as providing the location instead having "city" or "state" appear in the thread title or indicating whether an article is referring to Bernie Sanders or Sarah Huckabee Sanders for clarification. Furthermore, there is no rule about changing headlines in the title of threads in the Democratic primary forum.
Hassin, you've been a forum host before and you know the rules, so why are you using this as an excuse?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Worried?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)Scared? Desperate?
I thought we were all about vetting?
vet1
/vet/
verb
gerund or present participle: vetting
make a careful and critical examination of (something).
"proposals for vetting large takeover bids"
Similar:
screen
assess
evaluate
appraise
weigh up
examine
look over
review
consider
scrutinize
study
inspect
investigate
censor
check
redact
check out
check up on
probe
research
look into
delve into
dig into
search into
give something a/the once-over
size up
investigate (someone) thoroughly, especially in order to ensure that they are suitable for a job requiring secrecy, loyalty, or trustworthiness.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,761 posts)I found their News Weak.
The fact that they post titles in all caps proves that. They need to scream to be heard. They are no longer relevant and they know that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Nasty hit job on a fellow DUers name. You are very easy to read.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)sandersish post and trying to double task. Misspelling names on purpose is childish, and it was definitely not intended.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,345 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I know what the letters stand for, but don't know their 'politics'.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)So many disqualifications ...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)Not adult politicians.
Does this help clarify matters?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Does this help clarify matters?" (I doubt it... we often fail to see when blindness better serves our biases)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)You know, militant PC types that demand rigorous adherence to our personal litmus/purity tests, there's probably 5 regular folks out there that would hear that Buttigieg supported the Salvation Army and thinks one or more of the following:
1) Hey, I too support the Salvation Army, they do good work in the world!
2) Hey, maybe Gay folks really CAN be kind, loving Christian folk!
3) Hey, maybe PB totally isn't screwing around and trying to trick Voters with a phony Christian Act!
4) Hey, maybe he isn't ONLY totally concerned with the interests of Gay folks, just like we came to believe Obama wasn't ONLY totally concerned about the interests of Black folks, which helped us feel good about voting for him!
5) Hey, maybe we really COULD vote for the Gay man, I mean, not only was he a US soldier, but he's a Christian, and actually really seems like a good, smart guy!
I mean, a lot of those 'ways of thinking' sound lame and/or homophobic to US (okay, not just sound) ... but we aren't the average US voter.
Just worth some consideration IMHO.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)this is how people come around. Question their bigotry and then discard it. This is how progress got made and we are where we are now. Refusing to speak to people because they are wrong has never been known to result in much progress.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(16,859 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,360 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)This OP amazes me, and I can see only one reason for it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)Please look up thread.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Dont look back, something might be gaining on you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,360 posts)I guess we all should demand the Salvation Army should shut down its shelter for at-risk trans folk as well.
Or nail Pete to a tree because he said he doesn't like Chick fil-A's politics but likes their sandwiches.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)The yearly Salvation Army bash-a-thon by folks who have no idea how they operate used to really annoy me.
Now I count up every hater post, and that amount goes in a kettle the next day. I find it relaxing lol. DU has really contributed to the Salvation Army this year, especially those who post ridiculous and hateful things about something they really dont understand.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)organization has a charity kickoff in his town? Yeah, poke fun at him a little, but to make it a real problem?
I'm no big fan of the Salvation Army, but they do do good things and should not be defined by their private beliefs on controversial issues that do not control their public actions. Do we condemn and ban Catholic Charities because we don't like some of their views? And some of their views affect us a lot more than SA's do, and are worth condemning that church for, but we don't shut down their food kitchens to punish them.
And just what organization is out there that is "created to cater to the needs of queer people" that would take precedence over an organization dedicated to feeding, housing, and providing health benefits to all people.
FWIW, looking into SA's history, it does not deny services or accept discrimination against anyone based on sexual identity. It does insist on celibacy outside of marriage, and won't marry gay couples, but otherwise leaves it alone. Sound familiar? A lot of religions, including non-Christian ones, think that way and the world has survived.
And, btw, Out magazine itself hasn't exactly had a sterling history of supporting LGBT,etc concerns itself.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marybourg
(12,631 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,360 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LonePirate
(13,422 posts)If anyone was wondering if DU was free from homophobia, the answer to that is a resounding "No!"
If Mayor Pete will abandon his fellow LGBT Americans while serving as mayor, who will he abandon if he were to become President?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)with a charity?
The SA does not believe in gay marriage as a religious thing-- they believe God does not sanction it. However, they are doing noting about that belief except to not accept homosexuals in their leadership ranks. Otherwise, they minister to everyone alike. Or at least try to.
As a society, we must be tolerant of differing beliefs, and intolerance of belief alone is really no different than any other form of intolerance.
Say all you want to about flat-earthers and others, silly belief does not make you a bad person until that belief affects others.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,686 posts)They could probably put a good pot-stirrer to use.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,761 posts)Thank you!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,686 posts)It's just so obvious that someone needs a job, and by golly they have the skill-set!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,180 posts)that someone was recently inquired about my employment situation and I suspect that it wasn't out of compassionate concern about my welfare.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)The Catholic Church has just a doctrinaire teaching on homosexuality.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)Are we at the point of now of defending the SA, their homophobia, their anti gay lobbying, and their support of the horrendous gay aversion therapy?
Its deja vu all over again.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,360 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Almost every poster here comes back with a response to check out churches and other same kind of organizations.
The same posters who seem to be so anti-religion. It boggles the mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,033 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
thegoose
(3,115 posts)Yep, buy into it
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Is it because the poster thinks people will pay more attention to it? Are they insecure about its importance? Is their cap lock stuck? I never get the point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Easily fixed in about two seconds with a browser plug-in, but the poster refuses to do so.
Up-thread, he says changing the headline would be illegal, which is one of the funniest things I've ever read on DU.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,360 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,180 posts)Please cite the law that is being broken.
Note that I'm not asking you to cite the DU TOS rule since that would be a violation of those rules.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dsc
(52,162 posts)and even there I think they let you take out the capital letters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Let me call 911 and report this illegal activity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)The homeless straight people nationwide?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Butigieg has my serious consideration and Ill have no problem fiercely supporting him in the general if he clinches the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
James48
(4,436 posts)When we attack a candidate simply for volunteering to help the needy.
ITs not like he served on the board of the organization. He simply helped ladle out food at a shelter. You are attacking him for THAT? Good grief.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
randr
(12,412 posts)We must call it out and we must show compassion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden