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at140

(6,106 posts)
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:39 PM Dec 2019

Donald Trump fears only one Democrat: Warren Sanders

There aren’t 20 Senate Republicans with enough integrity to remove the most corrupt president in American history, so we’re going to have to get rid of Trump the old-fashioned way – by electing a Democrat next 3 November.

That Democrat will be Warren Sanders.

Although there are differences between Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, I’m putting them together for the purpose of making a simple point.

Read more at:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/15/donald-trump-democrats-elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders

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Donald Trump fears only one Democrat: Warren Sanders (Original Post) at140 Dec 2019 OP
Donnie fears rso Dec 2019 #1
Well, you keep telling yourself that. Aquaria Dec 2019 #2
I agree on Warren, and I did not write the article, simply posted it at140 Dec 2019 #8
Get real. trump didn't shake down Ukraine to get dirt on Sanders or Warren. brush Dec 2019 #16
If he fears only Warren/Sanders, why is he exclusively beating up on Biden? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #3
My best guess is because Biden is leading in polls right now at140 Dec 2019 #6
That's quite possible, but it doesn't change the fact The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #11
If Biden loses in Iowa & NH, polls could change..nt at140 Dec 2019 #12
Of course. But as things stand right now, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #13
No argument..nt at140 Dec 2019 #14
They're not even remotely the same person. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #4
Couldn't agree more, at140 Dec 2019 #10
It's pretty clear that Trump fears Biden. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #5
And any assertion that the dump has a clue Rural_Progressive Dec 2019 #18
bwahahahahahahahahahaha PhoenixDem Dec 2019 #7
Keep telling that to yourself... at140 Dec 2019 #9
Biden's "gaffes" are baked in PhoenixDem Dec 2019 #15
Trump's already made it clear he isn't likely to debate the Democratic nominee. highplainsdem Dec 2019 #17
Trump is scared shitless of debating Warren 1 on 1 at140 Dec 2019 #19
This has nothing to do with Warren's debate skills. Trump would lose a debate with any of our highplainsdem Dec 2019 #20
 

rso

(2,219 posts)
1. Donnie fears
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:44 PM
Dec 2019

There is no evidence that Donnie fears Warren and Sanders more than for example, Biden. In fact, head to head polls have overwhelmingly shown Biden to be the best performer against Trump, with a new CNN poll showing Trump and Biden just one point apart in Texas of all places. Also, Donnie’s desperate effort to find dirt on Biden also demonstrates who Donnie is most afraid of.

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Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
2. Well, you keep telling yourself that.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:45 PM
Dec 2019

Warren, maybe.

Sanders--well, I suppose it's nice to dream, but he wont' be the nominee. His followers don't grasp the fact that the vast majority of the Democratic base--namely women and minorities--don't care for him at all. They know a shameless panderer to white male privilege when they see one, better than anybody.

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at140

(6,106 posts)
8. I agree on Warren, and I did not write the article, simply posted it
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:51 PM
Dec 2019

Warren is more energetic than fatso Trump, and she is 10 times m ore eloquent than Trump.
I will pay good money to watch them debate in the presidential debate forum.

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brush

(52,892 posts)
16. Get real. trump didn't shake down Ukraine to get dirt on Sanders or Warren.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:20 PM
Dec 2019

He fears Biden. That's plain as day.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(114,549 posts)
3. If he fears only Warren/Sanders, why is he exclusively beating up on Biden?
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:45 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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at140

(6,106 posts)
6. My best guess is because Biden is leading in polls right now
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:48 PM
Dec 2019

therefore Biden will remain Trump's main target for the time being.
If the primaries change that picture, I am willing to bet Trump will attack the the next poll leader.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(114,549 posts)
11. That's quite possible, but it doesn't change the fact
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:56 PM
Dec 2019

that because Biden is ahead in the polls, all of which show that he is most likely to beat Trump by the widest margin, he is the candidate Trump fears the most.

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at140

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12. If Biden loses in Iowa & NH, polls could change..nt
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:57 PM
Dec 2019
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(114,549 posts)
13. Of course. But as things stand right now,
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:01 PM
Dec 2019

Biden is way ahead nationally, which is why Trump is busting on Biden. He's clearly the candidate Trump fears the most or he wouldn't have gone to such extreme lengths to try to get Ukraine to fabricate an investigation. And he and Rudy are still doing it. Could it change? Maybe, but that's what's happening now.

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TwilightZone

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4. They're not even remotely the same person.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:47 PM
Dec 2019

I understand the author's point, but I think everyone who lumps them together is doing Elizabeth Warren a huge disservice.

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at140

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10. Couldn't agree more,
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:56 PM
Dec 2019

Warren looks much more youthful than Sanders on TV, which is not a trivial point.

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TwilightZone

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5. It's pretty clear that Trump fears Biden.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:48 PM
Dec 2019

Any assertion to the contrary is laughable. Ukraine, anyone?

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Rural_Progressive

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18. And any assertion that the dump has a clue
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:42 PM
Dec 2019

about what is actually going on with the country besides what he is carefully fed by his tenders is laughable.

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PhoenixDem

(581 posts)
7. bwahahahahahahahahahaha
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:50 PM
Dec 2019

I needed a big laugh

Warren Sanders could break McGovern's record.

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at140

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9. Keep telling that to yourself...
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:53 PM
Dec 2019

One bad gaffe during the debates, and Biden will be in trouble.
Warren currently is so much more eloquent than Trump could ever be.
She will run circles around Trump in debates.

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PhoenixDem

(581 posts)
15. Biden's "gaffes" are baked in
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:03 PM
Dec 2019

People don't care about them.

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highplainsdem

(48,481 posts)
17. Trump's already made it clear he isn't likely to debate the Democratic nominee.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:22 PM
Dec 2019

Which pretty much anyone could have guessed months ago.

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at140

(6,106 posts)
19. Trump is scared shitless of debating Warren 1 on 1
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:42 PM
Dec 2019

Because she looks younger, healthier, and is 10 times more eloquent than Trump.
Trump will NOT debate Warren! How does that help Trump? He will look like a chicken.
Biden does not look younger than Trump, and Biden is not as eloquent as Warren,
so Trump will show up for the debate.

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highplainsdem

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20. This has nothing to do with Warren's debate skills. Trump would lose a debate with any of our
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:48 PM
Dec 2019

candidates.

And FWIW, if Trump were very worried about Warren, he'd be attacking her a lot more.

Biden's the one he's afraid of.

Biden's been the front-runner all year, while the others fight it out for number 2 in the primary race, and Warren has been slipping in the polls lately.

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