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at140

(6,106 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:08 PM Dec 2019

Sanders surges ahead of Iowa caucuses

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474777-sanders-surges-ahead-of-iowa-caucuses

While I am a supporter of senator Warren, Sanders keeps surprising me.
I still don't understand why he never registered as a democrat, while he runs as one and caucuses with the democratic party.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Sanders surges ahead of Iowa caucuses (Original Post) at140 Dec 2019 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #1
I grudgingly have to admit, the old man has shown staying power at140 Dec 2019 #3
because he isnt evertonfc Dec 2019 #2
Yeah, he's only caucused and voted with Democrats for 25 years. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #6
Half right - he's caucused with the Democrats but hasn't always voted with them for 25 years... George II Dec 2019 #13
Yes, abso-fuckin-lutely!! Bernie votes with Democrats at a higher rate than most Democrats... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #25
I await your quantifying that claim with statistics one of these days. ehrnst Dec 2019 #42
So the title sounds like he is surgin ahead in the caucus. Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #4
Yeah, I had to read the article to figure that out at140 Dec 2019 #8
Keeping the title intact is only required in LBN. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #12
Iowa's dominant white demographic is the fuel. GitRDun Dec 2019 #5
K&R CentralMass Dec 2019 #7
Totally irrelevant. democratisphere Dec 2019 #9
I'll thank you not to besmirch the Democratic Party! Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #14
the irony is thick here nt msongs Dec 2019 #18
I do my best Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #32
Ridiculously so. Cha Dec 2019 #40
It has nothing to do with a specific political party. democratisphere Dec 2019 #53
The pretense of outrage is quite melodramatic. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #56
A one-point rise in the RCP Iowa aggregate is not a "surge" TwilightZone Dec 2019 #10
Correct. In the same period where he went up 1 point, Biden went up 1.7 points. George II Dec 2019 #15
"Surge" is the most mis-used word in the primary season redstateblues Dec 2019 #27
Unless it's describing a suit: George II Dec 2019 #28
😂Good one redstateblues Dec 2019 #51
How About 7 Points In SC In 2 Months? corbettkroehler Dec 2019 #60
Another impressive showing for bernie! Joe941 Dec 2019 #11
??? dware Dec 2019 #16
Then you must be REALLY impressed with Biden who has gone up more than Sanders. George II Dec 2019 #17
It sure is... Bernie's surging in the polls with every passing day. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #48
And yet falling further behind Biden. George II Dec 2019 #54
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #19
A conspiracy theory always deserves elaboration..... brooklynite Dec 2019 #21
Here's a "welcome" treat. lapucelle Dec 2019 #31
Uh oh..... George II Dec 2019 #34
NOPE.. that's just NOT true. Cha Dec 2019 #41
Welcome to DU. ehrnst Dec 2019 #43
Poof! Cha Dec 2019 #52
Bernie didn't think the DNC rigged anything last time, you shouldn't either. betsuni Dec 2019 #44
It appears the new DUer thinks that Bernie is a fool or a liar. ehrnst Dec 2019 #45
Yes, that's not very nice. betsuni Dec 2019 #47
No one is trying to keep anyone down and never did NYMinute Dec 2019 #46
Doing it all with small donations too... a true candidate of the PEOPLE!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #49
Amazing how The Hill is a "right wing rag" until the news is good..... brooklynite Dec 2019 #20
That is amazing isn't it. dware Dec 2019 #22
It makes me chuckle. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #33
Welcome to DU GP6971 Dec 2019 #35
I guess I sometimes have that effect on people. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #36
As FDR is often quoted here on DU concerning certain candidates, ehrnst Dec 2019 #39
Right. What's their agenda in pushing Sanders? brush Dec 2019 #29
Ain't it tho? ehrnst Dec 2019 #38
Would love Bernie zentrum Dec 2019 #24
Bernie or Elizabeth... in either case, what a great team they will make!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #50
Would result in a refreshing true revolution! at140 Dec 2019 #58
Whoever comes up with headers for The Hill should get a firmer grip of reality. beastie boy Dec 2019 #26
"The Hill" greenjar_01 Dec 2019 #30
Warren/Sanders would be opposite of status quo at140 Dec 2019 #59
He's SURGING! The Hill says so!! ehrnst Dec 2019 #37
"Ahead of Iowa caucuses, a Sanders surge" Shrek Dec 2019 #55
Bernie's lateral surges are fun to watch. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #57
 

Uncle Joe

(57,762 posts)
1. Kicked and recommended.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:11 PM
Dec 2019

Thanks for the thread at.

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at140

(6,106 posts)
3. I grudgingly have to admit, the old man has shown staying power
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:13 PM
Dec 2019

Heart problems and all!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
2. because he isnt
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:11 PM
Dec 2019

a Democrat.

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Joe Biden
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,161 posts)
6. Yeah, he's only caucused and voted with Democrats for 25 years.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:15 PM
Dec 2019

And he’s part of the Senate Leadership of The Democratic Party


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George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Half right - he's caucused with the Democrats but hasn't always voted with them for 25 years...
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:34 PM
Dec 2019

Last edited Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:08 PM - Edit history (1)

There are a number of votes where he conspicuously voted against the majority of Democrats, particularly on gun control and Russian sanction votes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,095 posts)
25. Yes, abso-fuckin-lutely!! Bernie votes with Democrats at a higher rate than most Democrats...
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:06 PM
Dec 2019

guess that makes Bernie a Super-Democrat!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
42. I await your quantifying that claim with statistics one of these days.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:20 PM
Dec 2019

He's never served in public office as a Democrat, so I think that "Supe- I" might be more accurate, if facts are of interest.

In any case, for a "Super-Democrat" as you put it, he certainly seems to like to reach across that aisle to Republicans, doesn't he?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=381476

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
4. So the title sounds like he is surgin ahead in the caucus.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:14 PM
Dec 2019

In fact, he is surging ahead of the caucuse. As in, he he is doing well in polls before the caucus. Hopefully that sticks!

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at140

(6,106 posts)
8. Yeah, I had to read the article to figure that out
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:19 PM
Dec 2019

but I think the article has to be posted as is?

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TwilightZone

(24,683 posts)
12. Keeping the title intact is only required in LBN.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:31 PM
Dec 2019

In all other forums, you can use whatever you want.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
5. Iowa's dominant white demographic is the fuel.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:15 PM
Dec 2019

I wouldn't get to fired up until he makes a move in South Carolina.

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
9. Totally irrelevant.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:20 PM
Dec 2019

Caucuses are a voting fraud.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,161 posts)
14. I'll thank you not to besmirch the Democratic Party!
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:35 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

msongs

(67,000 posts)
18. the irony is thick here nt
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:43 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Cha

(294,696 posts)
40. Ridiculously so.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:15 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
53. It has nothing to do with a specific political party.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:50 AM
Dec 2019

It has everything to do with the fraudulent process and its manipulation by specific candidates.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
56. The pretense of outrage is quite melodramatic.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:24 AM
Dec 2019

But I'm almost certain it's not simply self-righteous posturing.

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TwilightZone

(24,683 posts)
10. A one-point rise in the RCP Iowa aggregate is not a "surge"
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:23 PM
Dec 2019

This is one of the many reasons why I can't take the Hill seriously. This kind of sensationalist silliness has become the norm there, of late.

RCP for Iowa:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/ia/iowa_democratic_presidential_caucus-6731.html

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George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Correct. In the same period where he went up 1 point, Biden went up 1.7 points.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:38 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
27. "Surge" is the most mis-used word in the primary season
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:12 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. Unless it's describing a suit:
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:13 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
60. How About 7 Points In SC In 2 Months?
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 08:21 PM
Dec 2019

The Post And Courier sees fit to use the word surge about Sanders' improvement in the Palmetto State.

Charleston, SC Post And Courier

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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
11. Another impressive showing for bernie!
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:23 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

dware

(12,006 posts)
16. ???
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:42 PM
Dec 2019
Another impressive showing for bernie!


Tell you what, I'll be impressed if BS even comes close to winning the nomination, but I ain't worried about being impressed because it just ain't gonna happen.
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George II

(67,782 posts)
17. Then you must be REALLY impressed with Biden who has gone up more than Sanders.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:42 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,095 posts)
48. It sure is... Bernie's surging in the polls with every passing day.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:53 PM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
54. And yet falling further behind Biden.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 05:44 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to at140 (Original post)

 

brooklynite

(93,210 posts)
21. A conspiracy theory always deserves elaboration.....
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:50 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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lapucelle

(17,969 posts)
31. Here's a "welcome" treat.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:27 PM
Dec 2019

If you're not hungry now, you can have it on the way home.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(294,696 posts)
41. NOPE.. that's just NOT true.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:19 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
43. Welcome to DU.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:24 PM
Dec 2019

Enjoy your stay.



If I were to vote in a presidential
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betsuni

(24,818 posts)
44. Bernie didn't think the DNC rigged anything last time, you shouldn't either.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:41 PM
Dec 2019

CNN July 6, 2016:

Wolf Blitzer: "She won fair and square, right?"

Bernie Sanders: "Yes."

Don't believe conspiracy theories like that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
45. It appears the new DUer thinks that Bernie is a fool or a liar.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:45 PM
Dec 2019

Last edited Tue Dec 17, 2019, 09:48 AM - Edit history (1)

That doesn't go over well here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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betsuni

(24,818 posts)
47. Yes, that's not very nice.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:51 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
46. No one is trying to keep anyone down and never did
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:48 PM
Dec 2019

That is a Trump talking point. "Look at what they did to poor Bernie" - said in multiple rallies to divide the Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,095 posts)
49. Doing it all with small donations too... a true candidate of the PEOPLE!!!
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:54 PM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(93,210 posts)
20. Amazing how The Hill is a "right wing rag" until the news is good.....
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:49 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dware

(12,006 posts)
22. That is amazing isn't it.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:51 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to NurseJackie (Reply #23)

 

GP6971

(30,770 posts)
35. Welcome to DU
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:42 PM
Dec 2019

and enjoy your stay!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
36. I guess I sometimes have that effect on people.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:56 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
39. As FDR is often quoted here on DU concerning certain candidates,
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:15 PM
Dec 2019

"I welcome their hatred!"

I believe that's supposed to be a sign that hatred from people for whom one has no respect or regard demonstrates one has the moral high ground.

I'll go with that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

brush

(52,895 posts)
29. Right. What's their agenda in pushing Sanders?
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:14 PM
Dec 2019

Makes one wonder.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
24. Would love Bernie
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:01 PM
Dec 2019

...to be our candidate. I think he can trounce Trump b/c he's perceived as an outsider and a maverick--and that is very much the mood of the country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,095 posts)
50. Bernie or Elizabeth... in either case, what a great team they will make!!
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:55 PM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

at140

(6,106 posts)
58. Would result in a refreshing true revolution!
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:43 AM
Dec 2019

The centrists are just stats quo, with the rich getting richer and the vast hard working middle class marching in place.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

beastie boy

(8,892 posts)
26. Whoever comes up with headers for The Hill should get a firmer grip of reality.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:10 PM
Dec 2019

The only one surging in Iowa and NH is Buttigieg. Sanders, Warren and Biden are within a margin of error of each other. Have been for at least a month.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

at140

(6,106 posts)
59. Warren/Sanders would be opposite of status quo
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:45 AM
Dec 2019

with the so called centrists, that is all you get, status quo.
Rich getting richer, middle class marching in place and stressed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
37. He's SURGING! The Hill says so!!
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 09:05 PM
Dec 2019

No doubt!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Shrek

(3,952 posts)
55. "Ahead of Iowa caucuses, a Sanders surge"
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 06:37 AM
Dec 2019

Is that how I'm meant to understand the headline?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
57. Bernie's lateral surges are fun to watch.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:27 AM
Dec 2019

Much like watching small-town football; the running back who speeds towards the line of scrimmage gaining nothing while the cheerleaders gush with pretense, glitter and pom-poms.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
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