Joe Biden's Health Care Plan Would Fix the Individual Health Insurance System😎

[Iamaartist]

If the Democrats capture the White House, keep the House and take over the Senate, no matter who they elect as President, this Biden health care outline, not Medicare for all, will likely be the plan Democrats embrace

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertlaszewski2/2019/12/22/joe-bidens-health-care-plan-would-fix-the-individual-health-insurance-system/#9c93e481f932

[Cha]

1. Thank you!

[Iamaartist]

2. K&R....

If some Dems only listen....to the real deal....Medicare For All is not going to work... my opinion..

[ritapria]

3. Medicare for All works in Canada

Why not here ?

[George II]

4. Canadians can purchase private insurance coverage.

[Eppydoodle]

8. Wrong

Wrong in practice as any doctor who bills privately is forced out of the public system in 9/10 provinces

To avoid this 99 percent of doctors stay in the public system

Google this and you will find info on Dr Days Cambria Clinic lawsuit to try to get out of this.

There is NO double billing in practice in Canada except for a few recalcitrant provinces. Everyone is in the same queue.

[guillaumeb]

30. Only partly correct.

Canadians can purchase supplemental insurance for the few things not already covered. Like dental coverage, or private rooms.

[janterry]

6. We are too regressive

and perhaps even selfish.

I still have some hope, but it's hard

[airplaneman]

7. Medicare for all costs 1/3 less - proven by the countries that do it - we cannot afford it n/t.

[guillaumeb]

31. But we are asked to believe that what works better than the US system

cannot work here.

The US is rated 37th for a reason. And a system that puts profit before patients is the reason.

[Iamaartist]

43. NOPE ...GO JOE....

I have been to Spain there government insurance is not good.......

[karynnj]

9. The difference here is that starting decades ago, we developed a system where a large

percent of people got insurance because of their jobs. For this reason, Medicare for people after they are 65 (presumably when people retired) was passed. While the majority of people have been for health insurance for those that do not have it, there are people who - wrongly in many cases - assume that the company insurance they have is better than the MFA would be.

[guillaumeb]

33. An excellent, short history lesson.

[Thekaspervote]

5. Go Joe !!!

[Iamaartist]

41. K&R

[Gothmog]

10. Joe has the best healthcare policy

Link to tweet

[gab13by13]

12. Better Hurry,

The court just ruled that the individual mandate is unconstitutional. I'm afraid ACA premiums are about to rise.

[Iamaartist]

42. NOPE ...GO JOE....

[Iamaartist]

23. Love it...True Facts

[Iamaartist]

46. Thank-you Gothmog. 😎

[TexasTowelie]

11. K&R!

[Iamaartist]

44. K&R

[yaesu]

13. ACA is coming apart at the seams, the fascists are killing it a piece at a time, expanded Medicaid

is coming to an end in MI in a few days, same with other states, there won't be anything to resurrect in another year.

[ehrnst]

19. Imagine what they would do to MFA.

Especially considering that SCOTUS ruled in 2012 that states would not suffer consequences for refusing to expand Medicaid under the ACA.

Just imagine what the 2020 court would rule on allowing states to refuse to participate in expanding Medicare...

And yes, there would be a huge part of MFA administered at the state level. No way around that - just look at Canada.

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-care-system/reports-publications/health-care-system/canada.html#a6

The ACA was implemented more gradually than the promised TWO YEARS that Sanders is promising for his MFA (reduced from 8 years for for this round of campaign promises) and allowed people to get to like the portions that affected them - like having pre-existing conditions covered, kids covered on their parent's plan up through age 26. That made it impossible to "repeal and replace" once the GOP got into office and realized that it had snuck up on them.

It would take much less time to gut a fast tracked MFA. There's an old saying in project management: Cheap, fast or high quality - pick two.

[Recursion]

47. Sounds like a good reason not to do MFA (nt)

[Iamaartist]

50. K&R I agree

[vsrazdem]

14. What are the deductibles and copays? How much to go to the ER. These are what people want to know.

If I make 50,000 a year and pay $350 a month for insurance, I want to be sure I can use it.

[ehrnst]

20. That detail would be determined by HHS. Anyone who promises something that granular

isn't being honest, or doesn't understand how complicated it is.

Those same types of answers were demanded by the GOP about the ACA before it was possible to answer them... in order to use the non-answers as ammunition.

[Paka]

15. And it's the insurance element that we don't like.

No health care program will work until we get insurance companies out of the mix.

[ehrnst]

22. So why do all other countries who have UHC also have private insurers or payers

involved at some level?

What government doesn't use private contractors for a program that huge?

[Paka]

24. The only system that I know well is France.

Insurance as an additional option is available, but all French citizens are covered by the basic health without any insurance involvement. It is at that basic level that insurance needs to be eliminated from. I've been treated under the French system. No insurance payments, no co-pays, nada. No fuss, no muss, and the care is top notch.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

27. Precisely what Bernie is advocating... why keep enriching the greedy health insurance companies?!

:
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[ehrnst]

35. No. Clearly you don't understand what his MFA bill actually includes. He wants to get rid of all

private insurance.

[ehrnst]

36. But that's not what you were talking about.

Unless you've changed your mind since I replied to you.

No health care program will work until we get insurance companies out of the mix.

They're in the mix in France...

[Shrek]

51. The Swiss system is widely admired and includes private insurers

https://www.swisshealth.ch/en/ueber-die-schweiz/gesundheitswesen.php

But the regulations are set up primarily to benefit patients and not the companies.

[Paka]

57. Without the regulations it would unravel.

And sadly the US doesn't have a good track record on regulating health insurance monsters.

[highplainsdem]

16. K&R

[emmaverybo]

17. Sensible. Doable. Will honor choice while helping those who need it.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. Nope... its insensitive, unworkable & will result in needless death and suffering!!

Bernie is leading the way on M4A, as he does on so many progressive issues... and his rise in the polls shows that support for M4A is gaining steam.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[Iamaartist]

45. K&R

[David__77]

18. If subisidies were ramped way up, it might be a good starting point.

My thing is: make health care a right not conditioned on payment.

[ehrnst]

21. But health care must be paid for. Health care professionals aren't volunteers.

Someone or something must pay, and that problem has dogged countries with UHC.

10 charts that show why the NHS is in trouble

Cost of public health care for Canadian families soared by 70% over two decades: report

The latest health spending data from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare, to be released on Wednesday, shows patients spent $3.9 billion on out-of-pocket hospital expenses in 2017-18, up $560 million or 17 per cent over the financial year, and quadruple the amount spent a decade earlier.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australians-spend-30-billion-a-year-on-out-of-pocket-health-costs-20190924-p52uc4.html

[David__77]

25. Sure, of course.

Taxes. And I don’t agree with the perspective that overall cost reduction should be a goal; rather, increasing efficiency (cost of achieving some desired outcome) should be a goal. I think that increasing the share of GDP allocated to health care in the short term would absolutely be a good thing, to increase the level and scope of services provided to the population.

Health care workers should be well compensated.

[ehrnst]

37. By what mechanism would you increase the share of GDP allocated to health care?

[David__77]

39. The same ways such things have always been done.

You make budget allocations and spend spend spend.

[ehrnst]

40. What kind of budget allocations? And in which budget?

By reconciliation?

Can you be more specific?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. Exactly why M4A is the way to go!! Thankfully, Bernie understand this...

and will ride this issue all the way to the White House!!

:
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[David__77]

34. It does seem like a good way to go.

At the same time, I’m open to considering some other option that on a transitional basis does a whole lot more than just offering a market price public option buy-in. It would have to be premises on health care as a right not conditioned on payment.

[ehrnst]

38. But you said that M4A was like France's system...

It looks like you don't understand Bernie's M4A very well.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. Not a chance!! President Sanders will lead the way to adoption of a M4A healthcare system...

that drastically lowers costs and saves lives. A two-tier system, administered in part by greedy insurance companies, will NEVER work. Bernie is making the case that M4A will work just fine... we can do this!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[guillaumeb]

29. Recommended.

And for these reasons:

Biden also deals with a number of other health care system issues:
Medicare could negotiate directly with drug companies for lower prices in that program
.
Launch prices for drugs that face no competition would have their Medicare and individual market prices tied to a process called "external reference pricing"––based on what a market basket of other nations are willing to pay thereby bringing U.S. prices more in line with what is paid in other industrialized economies.

Biden would increase the community health center budget to improve care for underserved populations.
Biden would pay for his plan by:
Eliminating the 20% flat tax on capital gains for those with incomes over $1 million and have them pay the top tax rate of 39.6% on capital gains.
Roll back the Trump tax cuts for the "very wealthy" and restore the top bracket to 39.6%.

In my view, single payer is still the better option, but these things would make a huge difference.

[Iamaartist]

48. Joe's Health Plan is the best.......

“I believe we have to protect and build on Obamacare. That's why I proposed adding a public option to Obamacare as the best way to lower costs and cover everyone. I understand the appeal of Medicare for All. But folks supporting it should be clear that it means getting rid of Obamacare, and I’m not for that...

I know how hard it is to get that [healthcare legislation] passed. I watched it. Starting over makes no sense to me at all. I knew the Republicans would do everything in their power to repeal Obamacare, they still are. But I'm surprised that so many Democrats are running on getting rid of it."

[Iamaartist]

49. Go Joe.....

[janterry]

52. Medicare for all

is the best solution.

Why we can't acknowledge or enact that - says a lot about us as a country (and a people)

[Iamaartist]

54. Wont Pass....

What about seniors who worked all their life ….money taken out of their pay checks for Medicare do they get all that money back...

[janterry]

56. all welfare is welfare

means tested or not (I know that's controversial - outside of academia - folks like to think that they paid into the system so it's not a form of social support).

Of course we can enact it. First step is to name what you want. Then you work towards it. Step by step.

Starting with a compromise just lowers the bar. Set the bar high and that becomes your goal. Set the bar low, and the compromise will just get lower.

[NYMinute]

53. Biden knows this topic

He studied this with Obama from all ways to Sunday when they were formulating the ACA.

[Iamaartist]

55. I agree