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Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:46 PM Dec 2019

This has become the central dividing line in the Democratic presidential race




The leading candidates in the 2020 Democratic presidential race are assembling coalitions of support through the early primary polling that are reminiscent of the patterns that repeatedly shaped the struggles for the party's nomination in the last decades of the 20th century.

Like such predecessors as Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, Bill Clinton and Al Gore, former Vice President Joe Biden is relying heavily on voters from what's been called the Democrats' "beer track": blue-collar, older and moderate whites, along with African Americans. …..

The poll also showed Biden consolidating the key components of the historic beer track. Among white Democrats without college degrees, he drew 26% (to 21% for Sanders and just 15% for Warren). His lead was even more commanding among African Americans, 42% of whom said they are supporting Biden, compared with just 12% for Sanders and 10% for Warren.

This reversion to the voter alignments that drove the party primaries during the late 20th century represents a back to the future moment for the Democrats. In 2008, Barack Obama scrambled this historic pattern and won the nomination by combining a strong performance among college-educated whites with a big advantage among African Americans; to an underappreciated extent, Hillary Clinton followed that model to beat back the unexpectedly strong challenge from Sanders in 2016.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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This has become the central dividing line in the Democratic presidential race (Original Post) Gothmog Dec 2019 OP
Count me as another "wine track" liberal for Joe Biden. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #1
I am a wine tracker also Gothmog Dec 2019 #5
Cheers! The Valley Below Dec 2019 #8
This whole thing has been going on for way too long. Srkdqltr Dec 2019 #2
Beer, wine, vodka, or pot. I don't care as long as we win. dem4decades Dec 2019 #3
Please go after my grandkids vote. Excite them too! OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #4
My 15 year old son wishes he was old enough to vote for Biden. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #6
That's good. Mine will vote Democratic ticket OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #10
Which candidate has the highest net favorability in your CNN National Poll, Ronnie ? ritapria Dec 2019 #7
"We all seem to underestimate the coalition Biden has "cobbled" together of the last year." LakeArenal Dec 2019 #9
+1000 Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #13
What if you don't drink? Jeebo Dec 2019 #11
Persistant or Solid? judeling Dec 2019 #12
K&R! nt TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #14
 

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
1. Count me as another "wine track" liberal for Joe Biden.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:48 PM
Dec 2019

His draw is deep and wide.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
5. I am a wine tracker also
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:56 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Srkdqltr

(6,285 posts)
2. This whole thing has been going on for way too long.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:51 PM
Dec 2019

It is getting stupid.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dem4decades

(11,289 posts)
3. Beer, wine, vodka, or pot. I don't care as long as we win.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:52 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
4. Please go after my grandkids vote. Excite them too!
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:53 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
6. My 15 year old son wishes he was old enough to vote for Biden.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:02 PM
Dec 2019

He's all in.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
10. That's good. Mine will vote Democratic ticket
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:22 PM
Dec 2019

But not excited yet other than ending the present child caging chapter

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
7. Which candidate has the highest net favorability in your CNN National Poll, Ronnie ?
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:02 PM
Dec 2019

The guy who has no chance of winning the nomination …………..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
9. "We all seem to underestimate the coalition Biden has "cobbled" together of the last year."
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:16 PM
Dec 2019

Bingo... Except for that cobbled together bit.
Biden’s coalition is not cobbled together. It’s rock solid.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Jeebo

(2,023 posts)
11. What if you don't drink?
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:35 PM
Dec 2019

I never touch the stuff. Beer, wine, hard liquor, I frankly can't stand the putrid stuff, never have. I will vote for whoever gets the Democratic nomination. ANYBODY is better than that megalomaniacal con man who's in the White House now. But dividing Democratic voters into "beer track" and "wine track" voters discriminates against non-drinkers, because it assumes that they ALL drink.

-- Ron

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
12. Persistant or Solid?
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:32 PM
Dec 2019

That is the question about Biden's support.
This is not a prediction as it is to early but ...

I can make a case that Sanders wins Iowa with Biden and Klobuchar finishing right behind. If that is the case Klobuchar will take the attack to Sanders while defending Biden and that just may give her the Nomination.

Biden does not command.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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