Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumNYT: Biden says he would comply with a subpoena, reversing course.
Good. His original statement was a mistake. Democrats, unlike Republicans, are for the rule of law.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/28/us/politics/biden-subpoena-democrats.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage
FAIRFIELD, Iowa Joseph R. Biden Jr. backtracked on Saturday from his stated position that he would not comply with a subpoena to testify in President Trumps impeachment trial in the Senate. Instead, he declared that he would abide by any subpoena that was sent to me even as he insisted there was no justification for calling him as a witness.
A day after reaffirming that he would not comply with a subpoena, Mr. Biden tried twice on Saturday to clarify his remarks, asserting that there would be no legal basis for such a subpoena but left it unclear, for much of the day, if he would ultimately comply with one. Then, questioned by a voter about the issue of compliance with subpoenas, Mr. Biden answered unequivocally.
I would obey any subpoena that was sent to me, he said at a town hall-style event in Fairfield.
Mr. Bidens 180-degree turn on whether he would comply with a subpoena was one of the starkest and swiftest reversals by a candidate in the Democratic primary campaign, and came after he faced questions and criticism about whether his initial stand would run counter to the rule of law.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mahina
(17,649 posts)Oops.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
reverses course or apologizes daily. As a supporter im.fucking sick of it. There is no added advantage to playing nice in 2020. Man, I miss Beto.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopdiggin
(11,302 posts)for me at least. (and I suspect a lot of others)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lexee
(377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,180 posts)I believe this belongs in GD (also). It pertains to impeachment and the general election, not the primary. Joe was Vice President under Obama, and Trump rightly fears him. That makes this a GE issue and a GD issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(130,895 posts)Maharishi University of Management (formerly Maharishi International University) since 1974 and has been referred to as "the world's largest training center" for practitioners of the Transcendental Meditation technique.[9] The city includes the $6 million Fairfield Arts & Convention Center (FACC), built in 2007. In 2010, it was named one of six Iowa Great Places. It was named by Smithsonian magazine as one of "The 20 Best Small Towns to Visit in 2013".[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfield,_Iowa
(My brother and family live there.)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)Class of '91.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
elleng
(130,895 posts)My brother's on the legal staff.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)was an unrelated-to-primaries article, I've been told to move it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)even one issued by Republicans conducting a corrupt tribunal. That's contrary to who he is. It'd have to have been a blatant frame-up a sensible person just couldn't walk into.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Towlie
(5,324 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
enough
(13,259 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Turbineguy
(37,324 posts)"The question is incompetent, irrelevant and immaterial!"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Towlie
(5,324 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)are so hopeful...soon to have their hopes dashed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)It was a real dumb move
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
John Fante
(3,479 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,190 posts)such thing. That's not even a good try.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)...But, it's endearing...right?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
John Fante
(3,479 posts)He didn't need to say anything more than that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)a trial of Donald Trump. But then he started riffing and lost the potency of his initial statement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)were wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,326 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tritsofme
(17,377 posts)Groupthink is not just a thing on the right.
Ive never understood why it is so hard for some folks to admit their candidate made a mistake, Joe certainly can, and he corrected his position accordingly. Non-controversy over.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He initially said that he didn't know what he could add to the matter being considered, Trump's removal from office. He should have stayed with his initial statement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He should have said that if McConnell and republicans do an honest job of calling witnesses, he would have no issue sharing what he knows.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aaron Pereira
(383 posts)In all likelihood Pelosi will not forward the articles of impeachment to the Senate now in order to protect Biden.
In the event the articles do move forward, Biden is going to be forced into countless hours of testimony during a critical point of the primary campaign.
I wish he'd stuck to his original position.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)a lawful subpoena.
With regard to giving testimony, he won't be any more handicapped than the Senate Democrats who are also running for President, and will have to leave the campaign trail for the length of an impeachment trial.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden