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Bernie rose to 9% on DU preferences. (Original Post) Joe941 Jan 2020 OP
Great News ritapria Jan 2020 #1
And you think that DU is a harbinger for the rest of the nation? dware Jan 2020 #2
That's simply not true, but whatever............ George II Jan 2020 #3
Did you miss the part about in the past few days? Joe941 Jan 2020 #7
Did you miss the part that BS is still in single digits? dware Jan 2020 #9
DU had a lot of turnover for a variety of reasons JonLP24 Jan 2020 #28
You said he was up 2% in the past 3-4 days. He was 8% on December 31, this is January 4.... George II Jan 2020 #11
My mistake. Maybe it was a week. Joe941 Jan 2020 #14
More like several weeks, and not 2%. He started December at 7.84, rounded to 8%, ended at 8.34 .... George II Jan 2020 #16
It's a surge! DavidDvorkin Jan 2020 #4
WHOOPEEE!!!! whistler162 Jan 2020 #5
And Bernie Surges Once Again! MineralMan Jan 2020 #6
On DU that would be huge! Joe941 Jan 2020 #8
It would also be meaningless. MineralMan Jan 2020 #10
Wait .. are you telling me that at this point in 2004, Kucinich was not really ahead of Kerry! nt karynnj Jan 2020 #19
LOL! MineralMan Jan 2020 #20
This means that 91% on DU don't want him. Ironic, isn't it? George II Jan 2020 #13
Ouch!!!! dware Jan 2020 #15
And, 85% don't want Biden. I don't believe DU preferences at this time have much meaning. MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #30
Neither do I, we're certainly not representative of the country. But when someone claims.... George II Jan 2020 #31
Bazinga! George II Jan 2020 #12
Biden's lead in real polling has increased. Prepare yourself. PubliusEnigma Jan 2020 #17
I have been surprised at how stable the numbers have been over the last few months karynnj Jan 2020 #18
DU is also significantly more progressive than the national democratic party. bearsfootball516 Jan 2020 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #22
So I guess that would go for Biden too then - probably just manipulated. Joe941 Jan 2020 #23
Only if the Biden supporters felt a need to play foolish games TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Jan 2020 #25
Well, yes, but how is he doing in Facebook polls? brooklynite Jan 2020 #26
Haaaaaa! NurseJackie Jan 2020 #27
Alternate headline BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #29
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
1. Great News
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 10:59 AM
Jan 2020

DU is feel'in the Berne.... Decorah Iowa is also feel'in the Berne .. 3 standing ovations ….A crowd of 800 last night in a town with a population of 8100 - during a snowstorm no less …...More importantly,most of those in attendance were oldsters ..Lots of Beautiful Gray hair in the throng ...I've never seen that before ...Very interesting ...

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dware

(12,249 posts)
2. And you think that DU is a harbinger for the rest of the nation?
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:03 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. That's simply not true, but whatever............
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jan 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287395446

Still less than half that of Warren and only 60% of Biden.
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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
7. Did you miss the part about in the past few days?
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:14 AM
Jan 2020

Bernie is at 9% now - it's on all our screens now. Those charts dont reflect that yet. They were last updated late dec.

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dware

(12,249 posts)
9. Did you miss the part that BS is still in single digits?
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:17 AM
Jan 2020

Who knows, he might make it to double digits on DU by the time of the primaries or the Convection.

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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
28. DU had a lot of turnover for a variety of reasons
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 05:29 PM
Jan 2020

DU used to be 90%-95% Bernie Sanders in 2016.

9% is really good for this board considering all of the negative information that gets posted here.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
11. You said he was up 2% in the past 3-4 days. He was 8% on December 31, this is January 4....
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jan 2020

....but I guess it "looks" good even if it's not true.

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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
14. My mistake. Maybe it was a week.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
16. More like several weeks, and not 2%. He started December at 7.84, rounded to 8%, ended at 8.34 ....
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:48 AM
Jan 2020

...(just up 0.50) to finally get up to "9%" he only had to go up a mere 0.16.

On the other hand, here's Biden's numbers:

However, if one candidate did receive any benefit from Harris's exit, that candidate was -- you guessed it -- Joe Biden.
Biden's numbers definitely took a bump at the start of December, climbing almost a full percentage point from 13.42% on December 2 to 14.24% on December 6. Biden closes out December on 14.63%.
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MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
6. And Bernie Surges Once Again!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:14 AM
Jan 2020

Soon, he may be in double digits!

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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
8. On DU that would be huge!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:16 AM
Jan 2020
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MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
10. It would also be meaningless.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jan 2020

DU does not reflect actual voting numbers. It's not even close.

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karynnj

(59,495 posts)
19. Wait .. are you telling me that at this point in 2004, Kucinich was not really ahead of Kerry! nt
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:18 PM
Jan 2020

I corrected the spelling after seeing your reply

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MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
20. LOL!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:19 PM
Jan 2020

Kucinich ---

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George II

(67,782 posts)
13. This means that 91% on DU don't want him. Ironic, isn't it?
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:24 AM
Jan 2020
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dware

(12,249 posts)
15. Ouch!!!!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 11:41 AM
Jan 2020

That's gonna leave a mark.

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MerryBlooms

(11,756 posts)
30. And, 85% don't want Biden. I don't believe DU preferences at this time have much meaning.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jan 2020

I'm holding off on deciding until the last debate. I've always been a Vote Blue No Matter Who, gal. I've got some health issues going on, so I think that's why I'm not feeling fired up these days. Pretty sure once those issues are resolved, and I'm released for normal activity, I'll be chomping at the bit to hit the pavement and phones for our nominee.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
31. Neither do I, we're certainly not representative of the country. But when someone claims....
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jan 2020

.....that a candidate is "surging" by going up a half a point on DU, I'm going to point out the reality of that.

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PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
17. Biden's lead in real polling has increased. Prepare yourself.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:16 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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karynnj

(59,495 posts)
18. I have been surprised at how stable the numbers have been over the last few months
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 12:16 PM
Jan 2020

From memory, I have seen him at 8 all month. So, there is an uptick.

The link posted from a post below on this thread - contains this relevant passage:

" And there was another candidate on the move in December -- Bernie Sanders. Sanders started December on 7.84% and finishes half a percentage point up at 8.34%. This does not seem to be related to Kamala Harris dropping out -- he didn't receive a significant bump in the first week of December -- but Bernie has been slowly gaining ground for a while now."

Note that ENTIRE December interval would be shown as 8. It is an increase of 1/2 a point over December. With the current 9%, Bernie moved from 7.84% to some number in the interval (8.5 to 9.49). His January gain - so far - is at least .66 % (8.5 - 7.84). Given how the DU chart works, it is more likely that he just gained a new person who put him above 8.5. This means his total gain since December 1 is 1.16

It is also interesting that Biden gained 1.21 (14.63 - 13.42) in December. His percent still registers as 15 today, so the minimum Biden gain from December 1 until today is 1.08 (14.5 - 13.42) at a minimum.


Now, let's consider the political leanings of DU. Since it started, it has been more to the left and more progressive than the democratic base. That Sanders is at less than 20% of the decided DU 'voters' does not bode well for him. Warren has more than twice his share of DU and while he had a small gain and she has had a small decline, she still is the one in that lane with the most support on DU.

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bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
21. DU is also significantly more progressive than the national democratic party.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jan 2020

DU is far from a good indicator of where the general public voting democrats are.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
23. So I guess that would go for Biden too then - probably just manipulated.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TexasTowelie

(111,905 posts)
24. Only if the Biden supporters felt a need to play foolish games
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 03:18 PM
Jan 2020

to manipulate a meaningless vote. Expect for them to be knocking on doors, making telephone calls, and to show up at the primary polls instead.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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brooklynite

(94,302 posts)
26. Well, yes, but how is he doing in Facebook polls?
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 05:14 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
27. Haaaaaa!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 05:17 PM
Jan 2020
I'm sensing a surge!


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BannonsLiver

(16,288 posts)
29. Alternate headline
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 05:34 PM
Jan 2020

“Bernie Sanders moves up to 9 percent in completely meaningless non scientific poll”

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